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[Innsmouth Dweller]

i realised i cannot respond to OP w/o raging and/or whining

 

i guess BW games still can stir up some feelings 

 

btw i couldn't care less about ME, action oriented games put me off

[mickey111]

The journalists have already sucked DA:I, bioware don't have to admit to anything. 

[turuzzusapatuttu]

[SofaJockey]

The journalists have already sucked DA:I, bioware don't have to admit to anything. 

 

er...

 

[Phoe77]

yes, ive actually been thinking about this too, thats the impression i get from reading between the lines. Why else would he need to say something like that if DAI and the formula it introduces is such a huge success   Oh never fear y'all, we will make sure to not make it the same for the huge amount of people who disliked the changes and have no interest in buying future BW games as a result. But inq is such a huuuuuge success, that it needs to be distanced from their future games in an attempt at winning back buyers    And he says it like he know what people are referring too, indirectly admitting that the mechanics they introduced are for the most part shitty and poorly received.

 

Probably to assure people that ME4 will be a separate entity instead of a dressed up carbon copy of Inquisition.  As a matter of fact, the argument could be made that Inquisition's success is precisely why the statement was made.  They could simply want to assure fans that ME4 will be a unique experience despite the praise that Inquisition has garnered.

 

I don't know if that's actually the case, but it seems just as believable as anything else.

[X Equestris]

Probably to assure people that ME4 will be a separate entity instead of a dressed up carbon copy of Inquisition.  As a matter of fact, the argument could be made that Inquisition's success is precisely why the statement was made.  They could simply want to assure fans that ME4 will be a unique experience despite the praise that Inquisition as garnered.
 
I don't know if that's actually the case, but it seems just as believable as anything else.

That was my thought on what was meant, too.

[pdusen]

yes, ive actually been thinking about this too, thats the impression i get from reading between the lines. 

 

Indeed, why bother reading the actual content of the article when making things up is so much more entertaining?

[Scofield]

Dont really care what Aaryn says (no disrespect intended) or any other person/site etc, if i like the look of MENext i will buy it an nothing anyone says will change my mind, just like if i dont like the look of it i wont buy it.

 

If i went with what ppl said about a game i would never have purchased DA2 or ME3, 2 games i plowed a ton of hours into an enjoyed immensely regardless of faults, same with DA:I

 

Funny how for me BioWare on there bad day still make better games than the rest of the AAA trash out there

[leaguer of one]

Op...Why are you even here?

[Phonantiphon]

I still think there is some substance in it

Well at least someone does.

 

I should sincerely hope that DA:I isn't the template, they're different things and besides that if it were it would mean that Bioware were resting on their laurels and not moving forward, and that would be bad.

 

Other than that it's just another interpretation of a blog post slightly warped on here to fit someone's opinion and to allow them *again* to dredge up the same old cobblers.

[Vox Draco]

Yeah, I know, this topic like many of my other topics are full of hyperbole, but I still think there is some substance in it. As you may have known by now, Bioware's GM Mr. Aaryn Flynn said that Dragon Age: Inquisition will NOT be a template for what to expect with Mass Effect 4. Personally, I say thank god!

 

 

I'd recommend Bioware not to take Mass Effect 2 + 3 as templates for ME4 ... but that's just me of course ^^

[Raoni Luna]

One game is an RPG, and the other is a shooter, so I would hope not. The moment Mass Effect shed the poorly implemented RPG stuff was the moment the game got exponentially better.

 

Also, Mass Effect was an 8 hour game with about 50 hours of filler content (and miles of reused environments).

What? Inquisition is clearly the shooter. Mass Effect is so much more of RPG than Inquisition. Things were different up to DA2, but now, Mass Effect 3 seems like the most complex RPG system ever created by men. I feel like I'm rolling a d20 while playing ME3 when compared to what inquisition became. At least Bioware proved me that they can not redeem themselves from anything, they keep on making it worse and worse, there is no bottom for them, it is an endless pit of getting worse. Done. Got rid of my hopes. If that was their purpose with Inquisition I guess they are very accomplished in their task, they literally slaughtered hopes in the future, I thought the only certainty in life was death, now there is another: Next Dragon Age will always be worse than the previous.

[Captain Wiseass]

What? Inquisition is clearly the shooter.

Don't shooters generally have guns?

[o Ventus]

I kind of feel like, when you're making a thread like this, that you fill out a questionnaire to show that you have some idea of what journalism is.

 

If you think it's news that ME4 won't be like DAI, then you're an idiot. DAO was not like ME1 which was not like DA2. The only thing they share is that they're both RPGs.

 

And if you need to spin the story to make it sound like the company in question has somehow failed to grab attention, then you're sad.

 

This news is about as breaking as the discovery that water is indeed wet.

[CronoDragoon]

What? Inquisition is clearly the shooter. Mass Effect is so much more of RPG than Inquisition.

 

What in the world...

[wolfhowwl]

I'd recommend Bioware not to take Mass Effect 2 + 3 as templates for ME4 ... but that's just me of course ^^

 

In combat they certainly should take ME3.

[KaiserShep]

 

[frankf43]

That's just spooky. I mean how many pairs of glasses is that dude wearing.

[Cyonan]

In combat they certainly should take ME3.

 

I'd even argue that in terms of skill trees they should take ME3 and improve upon that.

 

Despite balance issues, they were far more interesting than "Warp duration increased by 1 second" like Mass Effect 1 used for most of them.

[United Servo Academy Choir]

What? Inquisition is clearly the shooter. Mass Effect is so much more of RPG than Inquisition. Things were different up to DA2, but now, Mass Effect 3 seems like the most complex RPG system ever created by men. I feel like I'm rolling a d20 while playing ME3 when compared to what inquisition became. At least Bioware proved me that they can not redeem themselves from anything, they keep on making it worse and worse, there is no bottom for them, it is an endless pit of getting worse. Done. Got rid of my hopes. If that was their purpose with Inquisition I guess they are very accomplished in their task, they literally slaughtered hopes in the future, I thought the only certainty in life was death, now there is another: Next Dragon Age will always be worse than the previous.

 

When I play ME2 and ME3, I feel like I'm playing a decent shooter with a level up system. When I play Inquisition, I still feel like I'm playing a Dragon Age game (albeit one with a little more style and some colors other than "mud").

 

Mass Effect started as a bad (but promising) RPG/shooter hybrid thing and turned into... it's own weird thing. But it's more shooter than anything else, that's for certain.

 

Since it's clear that Bioware has something against you personally, and obviously released their most recent multimillion dollar game just to spite you, I question the utility of railing on and on about it. I mean, sitting around here posting is pointless to begin with, but if all you're going to do, post after post, is moan about how they're a shadow of their former selves and how nothing is beneath them, that takes the cake.

 

It would be far more constructive to go do something you actually like to do.

[Draining Dragon]

In combat they certainly should take ME3.

There were aspects of ME2 that were better, in my opinion.

Movement speed was a bit more reasonable (especially with sprinting), classes were more distinct, and the guns handled better.

[Raoni Luna]

When I play ME2 and ME3, I feel like I'm playing a decent shooter with a level up system. When I play Inquisition, I still feel like I'm playing a Dragon Age game (albeit one with a little more style and some colors other than "mud").

 

Mass Effect started as a bad (but promising) RPG/shooter hybrid thing and turned into... it's own weird thing. But it's more shooter than anything else, that's for certain.

 

Since it's clear that Bioware has something against you personally, and obviously released their most recent multimillion dollar game just to spite you, I question the utility of railing on and on about it. I mean, sitting around here posting is pointless to begin with, but if all you're going to do, post after post, is moan about how they're a shadow of their former selves and how nothing is beneath them, that takes the cake.

 

It would be far more constructive to go do something you actually like to do.

This is what I actually like to do. So you just asked me to do it more. And I'm pleased to do as you say. Thanks for the encouragement

[Raoni Luna]

Don't shooters generally have guns?

Or bows and staves...

Mass Effect also have melee.

And you can switch between ranged and melee. ME3 is more Dragon Age than Inquisition.

[Sidney]

Don't shooters generally have guns?

Might have guns, but usually they involve actually aiming I think. Skyrim plays more like fantasy Medevial Borderlands than DAI does for example.

[Regan_Cousland]

Well I, personally, thought the exact same thing you did when I read BioWare's comments, OP.

BioWare must be aware that many of their fans are unhappy with the largely bleak, barren, story-less MMO style of Inquisition, and I too intuited that BioWare's comments were a subtle way to reassure fans that Mass Effect won't necessarily repeat Inquisition's sins.

Of course BioWare would deny it, but they'd deny it whether it's true or false, so all we can do is speculate.