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[Tex]

I don't understand how is synthesis so bad would somebody please explain? Because for me atleast it was the best.

[Malanek]

I don't understand how is synthesis so bad would somebody please explain? Because for me atleast it was the best.

For me enforced mutation of every living creature in the galaxy is horrific. Although some would be fine with it, billions wouldn't, it's an incredibly invasive personal solution. When you see the husk get affected and gain some sort of consciousness you wonder what sort of psychological state all the other husks and reapers are in once they realise what sort of monsters they are and remember what they used to be.

 

It also seems to me that at the time of choosing it is incredibly risky. I'm not sure if you were asking the question with the benefit of hindsight or not.

[themageguy]

I love mass effect and dragon age, why wouldn't i want to see more games?

Also, playing as a Tempest in inquisition, has got me really hoping to play as an infiltrator with an elemental omni blade to cloak and stab all the things

[Display Name Owner]

I don't understand how is synthesis so bad would somebody please explain? Because for me atleast it was the best.

 

Well, one thing is how is there going to be any story in a world where everything is peace love and understanding? The way Synthesis is presented there's no reason for conflict whatsoever and no room for self improvement, meaning no grounds for a story.

[GalacticWolf5]

When you see the husk get affected and gain some sort of consciousness you wonder what sort of psychological state all the other husks and reapers are in once they realise what sort of monsters they are and remember what they used to be.

Husks becoming aware again is really weird. Can you imagine what happens to those who are multiple people fused together? Do they each become aware in the same body?

I can't imagine the galaxy living along side these monsters...

[KaiserShep]

In the case of the brute, it has the head of a turian, but the krogan part doesn't seem to be anything more than bits of the torso and legs. Man, best to just wipe these things out.

[Nohvarr]

I like the way you think!  As Dorian once put it....

 

The voice of pragmatism speaks!

 

Although, to be fair, the ME 3 ending was more than a mistake.  It was pure folly.  It was a disaster.  It was an unmitigated catastrophe.  The question is...where is the line drawn? Should Bioware be forgiven for their obvious hubris?

The short answer is "Yes".

 

No game company has ever gotten it all right even with the best of intentions. The question is, do they try to become better? Bioware, to date, has shown a willingness to try to improve, even though they know that not everyone will approve of their direction.

 

Square-Enix had a real unmitigated catastrophe with the initial release of FF 14, which failed spectacularly. Now, after some time and significant rework "A Realm Reborn" appears to be winning back fans the original game lost. (http://www.technobuf...a-realm-reborn/)

 

Conversely, Peter Molyneux continues to Promise the Sun and the Moon in every single game he's apart of despite never delivering on his lofty goals. (http://www.rockpaper...hells-going-on/)

[Cette]

I wonder if they couldn't maybe go the Deus Ex invisible war direction with it and make all ending essentially happen all at once while moving the timeline forward far enough that the inconsistency's can be smoothed out.

Say set it 900ish years later and assume that Shepard would have self destructed the Reapers after they'd helped rebuild while having given enough time to fix things without them.

Synthesis makes it harder but that's also enough time to allow for a trend towards transhumanism/transpecism in which heavy technological enhancement is the galactic norm.

It's also long enough for the Geth/Quarians to have rebuilt from isolated serving pockets. EDI could have easily had a shielded backup of herself placed somewhere or even built into Liara's time capsules. So you can include EDI and Liara while most everyone else would have died of old age. As for Wrex Krogan's lead violent lives and he's pissed off a lot of his own people so saying he was offed in that time span or at Virmire works equally.

Not a perfect solution but the number of choices will always sequels difficult.

[Tex]

Thank you for your replys it was interesting seeing your perspectives.

[Vazgen]

Thank you for your replys it was interesting seeing your perspectives.

Check out this thread: Link

There is a long discussion on Synthesis starting from page 6

[Iakus]

I don't understand how is synthesis so bad would somebody please explain? Because for me atleast it was the best.

 

So now I'm asking more of you than I have before . Maybe all. Sure as I know anything, I know this: they will try again.  Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean.  A year from now, ten?  They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better.  And I do not hold to that.  So no more runnin'.  I aim to misbehave.

 

Captain Mal Reynolds

[Vazgen]

So now I'm asking more of you than I have before . Maybe all. Sure as I know anything, I know this: they will try again.  Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean.  A year from now, ten?  They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better.  And I do not hold to that.  So no more runnin'.  I aim to misbehave.

 

Captain Mal Reynolds

[Dr. Rush]

So...can we nuke ME3 for the same reasons?  

 

At least the segment between "Best seats in the house" and the Stargazer?  

 

After Disney buys Bioware(or EA), I'm sure it will be an option.

[God]

So now I'm asking more of you than I have before . Maybe all. Sure as I know anything, I know this: they will try again.  Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean.  A year from now, ten?  They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better.  And I do not hold to that.  So no more runnin'.  I aim to misbehave.

 

Captain Mal Reynolds

 

Ah, Captain Mal...

 

So totally wrong here.

 

People can be made better. Even if they themselves don't believe that they can be. 

[sjsharp2011]

The BSN on the day that gets announced:
 

Who's to say they'll canon the ending? It's quite possible Bioware may do with Me what they've done with Dragon Age and create Keep site so you can convert your trilogy status into the story of ME4.I'm not saying they're going to do this but it is quite possible they may follow this route. It may depend on how big a jump forward we have from 3 into 4. Yes mistakes were made in ME3 but no game is ever 100% perfect and thinking it is would be wrong. Unfortunately though achieving 100% perfection is just as hard I think as trying to please everyone which is impossible. All Bioware (and this goes for any company in business) can do is give it their best and hope the majority like it. I know I like the games they've done so far so when ME4 shows up I'll almost certainly will be getting it.

[sjsharp2011]

The Mass Effect titles are one of my favorite franchises since I began playing it five years ago. Despite it mainly being focused on Shepard form the previous games, the ME universe is massive with so many possibilities, history and new ideas that can be implemented. I would find it a shame if they decided it ended with ME3 because it is an amazing title to build upon and to continue to do so.
 
It doesn't have to end because Shepard's story concluded, hell depending on the age setting on the next game Liara and Grunt could still be alive as well as many characters. So despite it being a new story we have the possibility of familiar characters returning and new characters that we can grow to love once more as we did in the previous games.

Same here

[Anacronian Stryx]

Control : After helping with the rebuild the reapers went away to nobody know where (they make a short cameo at some point in the game that won't amount to much)

Synthesis : The green hue subsided after a few months and everything goes back to normal (it will be referenced a couple of time though out the game but that's it)

Destroy : The Geth is dead but they won't play any role in the new game anyway (there will be some talk about the absense but that's about it)

 

what will play a role is the things that happens in every game - the invasions of the homeworlds of all the races and stuff like that, I think most of the actions of Shepard & Co will remain out of the public knowlegde.

 

Honestly i'm fine with it since i'm trying really hard to forget ME 2&3

[pdusen]

I don't understand how is synthesis so bad would somebody please explain? Because for me atleast it was the best.

 

Aside from the fact that the justification for it is flimsy, it's basically galaxy-wide genetic rape.

[pdusen]

Ah, Captain Mal...

 

So totally wrong here.

 

People can be made better. Even if they themselves don't believe that they can be. 

 

People have to make themselves better. Trying to make people better has never resulted in anything but atrocity.

[Winterking]

I don't understand how is synthesis so bad would somebody please explain? Because for me atleast it was the best.

 

Well the Catalyst says its something it can't be forced (the guy controling the sentient machines that force entire civilizations to be fused together in Reaper form.) 

 

So if the Catalyst has a problem with forcing Synthesis on galaxy, why would Shepard be okay with this? No Shepard of mine is going to choose Synthesis. 

[Kondorr]

that question was NEVER on my mind regardless of my ever-changing opinion on the game

[KaiserShep]

Ah, Captain Mal...

 

So totally wrong here.

 

People can be made better. Even if they themselves don't believe that they can be. 

I don't think pumping a sedative in the atmosphere to make people docile would really be a good way to promote the betterment of mankind.

[Dynomite15]

Mass Effect is still my favorite game franchise, even with the crappy ending. What I don't understand is why people would rather not have shepard in mass effect 4. I see people say it like its a good thing. I will play mass effect 4 no matter who the main character is, but personally I would LOVE if shepard was in it again. Even if he wasn't the main character. I want legitimate closure to the last breath.

 

Oh btw. Liara was the most monotone boring character in the game. My very first play through of ME1 years ago I made her my LI, and once ME2 came out I never did it again. I don't understand how people like such a boring character so much. Miranda and Jack are much better. I wish Jack was in ME3 more often. Hell even Ashley was better after ME1.

[goishen]

I agree with you about Jack and Ash.  Miranda?  Meh.  About the same. 

 

The reason that most people care about her is she's the typical "girl next door".  Who becomes the woman next door.  Who becomes the Shadow Broker of d34th next door.  People love to see that kind'a evolution.  Especially with that kind'a sweetness that she shows in the ME3 LI goodbye scene.

 

As far as Shepard goes, I think that BioWare is done with him/her.  BioWare doesn't have very many "left hanging" moments.  But I do think that the "last breath" was a good one.  Because it showed that Shepard was still alive.  How long?  Well, I guess that's for your imagination to fill out.