You consider his antagonism to be a matter of opinion? I know villainy is subjective, but the title of antagonist is just a term for someone in opposition to the protagonist. Samson fits that mold in the story.
Nope, I don't. Samson and Calpernia are both antagonists, as per the official definition existent in fiction. There's no doubt about that.
But the way my sentence was phrased, it did give that ambivalent impression. Thanks for pointing that out.
Who condemned him? He was fired, not blacklisted from the job market, and we saw Ferelden mine workers slugging through even though there was enough prejudice toward Fereldens in Kirkwall to limit their job opportunities.
He did a little illegal work, so that's one in his favor. Sometimes it meant he inadvertently sold children into slavery, but points for effort.
Pretty much Kirkwall's society. In Act 2, he complains people look down on him. This is an actual line he says during Act 2. Samson is seen as a pariah. No decent Kirkwaller would want to have anything to do with him. Much like a beggar nowadays or a lepper in the Middle Ages.
He also states something about having to beg in the streets to buy the dust. Now here I enter the terrain of extrapolation. We never see him have a proper job in the game. Every night, he's in Lowtown, asking around for dust. So my first assumption is that he can't have a proper job because of his addiction.
My second assumption is that no one dared give him a job because he's a junkie.
I suppose the game mirrors real life behaviour to an extent, right? That's what Bioware attemps to do with its characters; give them a realistic approach, without removing all of the fantastic elements typical to fiction.
We know for a fact Samson suffers prejudice and is discriminated by Kirkwallers. That could extend to him not being able to have a normal job, but this second assumption is only personal extrapolation.
(I should point out my extrapolation is based on examples I have of people I know or have heard of. My country doesn't lack cases of drug addicts not able to keep their jobs for more than a few months or being avoided altogether because they have a drug usage history.)
That's Maddox, not Anders (tagged as such on Tumblr).
How could someone mistake that for Anders? Looks nothing like him!
Samson describes himself as a Kirkwall guttersnipe, no one gives a damn. Then Corypheus comes along and says 'hey, have your sword and your dignity back'.
On your back in the gutter, the only way to look is up, even if that hand is corrupt, you'll take it. I always love how people say 'I'd never do that'! Sure, when you're of rational mind you might think that, but it's laughable to think rational thought processes play into any decision making in this instance.
Some fluffy(sort of) Samson stuff for y'all - http://archiveofouro...g/works/3597060 from Meer
Hey Samson fans there's a new DLC coming out! I know chances are nil, but I hope Samson is involved somehow.
Hey Samson fans there's a new DLC coming out! I know chances are nil, but I hope Samson is involved somehow.
I wish he were. The overall description refers to a new area with 4 missions to accomplish. Not much is said about chars being involved.
However, Mark Darrah did state he intends to please 2 audiences: those who wish to see a post-credits story and an expansion with content previous to the game's ending.
JoH fulfills the second requirement. Maybe we can still get to see more of Samson's fate when the first is developed. I hope. 
So...I have no idea how to use flycam. I've already tried installing DAI Cinematic Tools several times, but it just won't work.
I won't ask for a heaven sent angel to take some shots and post them on the thread; I know people have more impotant things to do, but...well, I'd be looking forward to it if only such a lovely being out there were able hear my heart's wish.
I should have been more clear about that thought process coming from him sitting around Skyhold/end-game.
While he's running the Red Templars? Yeah I don't doubt he feels better than he has in decades.
Well, then, it seemed more like he'd be in constant pain and lethargy, his life energy slowly draining away from the hole left in him by red lyrium withdrawal.
I am slowly (very slowly) progressing in the storyline, but I can not wait to reach Arbor Wilds and take some screenies of our Samson. I have some already (posted earlier in this thread), but I want more! And then a new playthrough with Calpernia as nemesis.....
I am slowly (very slowly) progressing in the storyline, but I can not wait to reach Arbor Wilds and take some screenies of our Samson. I have some already (posted earlier in this thread), but I want more! And then a new playthrough with Calpernia as nemesis.....
May the Maker bless you and all the Creators of the Elven pantheon. 
I am slowly (very slowly) progressing in the storyline, but I can not wait to reach Arbor Wilds and take some screenies of our Samson. I have some already (posted earlier in this thread), but I want more! And then a new playthrough with Calpernia as nemesis.....
Your screenies are the best Rannah. Can't wait to see what you come up with!
Well, then, it seemed more like he'd be in constant pain and lethargy, his life energy slowly draining away from the hole left in him by red lyrium withdrawal.
Could be - it's not clear if he's transitioned to blue lyrium, or taken off all lyrium entirely, depending on which judgement you render. I assume they want to keep him alive for judgement in Kirkwall, or for experimentation by Dagna, or information for Cullen.
I tend to think he's transitioned to blue lyrium. How easy is that transition? Who knows. Probably as painful as you describe.
More Samson in the Samson Thread:
I'm convinced if they need him, they'll transition him to blue.
What they do with him after they've finished with him is anyone's guess.
That screenshot is beautiful.
I'm convinced if they need him, they'll transition him to blue.
What they do with him after they've finished with him is anyone's guess.
That screenshot is beautiful.
I feel like they would have to. Withdrawal from that stuff must be horrible. I think if they just took him off cold turkey it would be almost cruel.
May the Maker bless you and all the Creators of the Elven pantheon.
Your screenies are the best Rannah. Can't wait to see what you come up with!
Thank you! I hope it won't be a disappointment
Thank you! I hope it won't be a disappointment
Your screenies are never a disappointment, Rannah!
Your screenies are never a disappointment, Rannah!
You all are too kind to me
I mean if he's in jail, he's explicitly off the stuff, per the dialogue, but the only reason really to put him in jail is for the dialouge, so... (and even then, he says the lyrium's getting him more slowly than it usually does, which is... interesting)
well i side with the templar cause i think ser baris should be saved cause if you side with the mages all the templar turn red and you just have to fight samson
when you side with the templar you save the order and ser baris ... doing some war table missions and you will promote sir baris to knight captain .. so the rder will have now a good man to lead it .... and you don"t have to fight samson ... what happen to him is not known and you cant talk to caprilia and not fight her and she turn against curyph and we don"t know what happen to her even if you fight her she throw her self in that hole but you don"t know what happen to her ... so with this dicision you have the two of them still leave with a uknown future and a good man on the head of the templars
well i side with the templar cause i think ser baris should be saved cause if you side with the mages all the templar turn red and you just have to fight samson
when you side with the templar you save the order and ser baris ... doing some war table missions and you will promote sir baris to knight captain .. so the rder will have now a good man to lead it .... and you don"t have to fight samson ... what happen to him is not known and you cant talk to caprilia and not fight her and she turn against curyph and we don"t know what happen to her even if you fight her she throw her self in that hole but you don"t know what happen to her ... so with this dicision you have the two of them still leave with a uknown future and a good man on the head of the templars
Unfortunately Samson is gone (assumed dead) of you side with the Templars. A letter to Calpernia in the game has this to say:
You were correct, Lady Calpernia; without Samson to lead the Templars, Corypheus relies even more on his Venatori.
Knowing how protective he is of his Templars, I don't imagine he left them leaderless by choice. I assume putting on the armor killed him. But who knows? Leliana's still kicking around despite being killed at the Temple of Sacred Ashes.
Well, Samson says the withdrawal feels like something uncoiling in his gut. The Chantry states forced withdrawal can be fatal, so condemning him to prison might as well be a death sentence.
Not wanting to disrupt this great conversation, but...
Just returned from Tumblr. So Samson glows in the dark, huh?
Can't be more explicit here, so let me just say condoms. Hm...
Are all Templars red Templars if you side with the Mages though?
The Lord Seeker gathers all templars in the region to Therinfal Redoubt so they can be turned or killed (if not willing to take the red). So I think almost every one of them is either tainted or killed.
And in Emprise du Lion, the Red Templars making experiments to taint others with the red lyrium (like the giant corpse in one of the holding cells in the keep). It seems to me that their numbers are waning and they try to "produce" more foot soldiers capable to fight.
@ModernAcademic:
Read your comment. Now I have strange thoughts...
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