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I remember that Calpernia said this and I guess she did not lie. Doesn't mean she is going to fight until her end so maybe she is still alive. With Samson we do not have the option to turn him against Corypheus like we can do with Calpernia - but that only is because she feels betrayed by him. But there is nothing comparable for Samson - Corypheus did not betray him. Samson and his templars are on a suicide run while Calpernia has plans for the future. 

 

I do think that Samson can come to his mind while staying at the Inquisition and maybe regain even trust in the inquisition or the inquisitor.

 

While I understand their hate and fighting against the chantry I would really like to know how they felt while turning civilians into red lyrium and if some red templars maybe refused to do this to others. Even if they hate the chantry there are people who have nothing to do with the decisions of the chantry and not all people in the chantry are in a position to make decisions. 

It's like anyone with deep deep distrust in these institutions.  They don't really view the people as individuals anymore and/or they have to work hard to remove that individuality from people so they can justify their actions.  Samson calls the Inquisitor "Inquisition". For someone as compassionate as Samson, it was likely a necessary coping mechanism so he could forget that the people he was killing were people with real lives and hopes.  It's easier to attack a "faceless" institution.

 

Samson knows what he did was wrong and ugly.  By the time he's brought back for judgment he's fully broken under the weight of what he has become. 


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#1127
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Samson felt he was too far gone to be redeemed, which is why he accepted whatever punishment you gave him.


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Finally I got my WoT2 copy too :)

Well I hoped to find more about Samson in it but one thing got me thinking (not sure if WoT2 spoilers are ok).

 

Do you think he knew about Corypheus plans for the grey wardens? I think he must have as we see in the Arbor Wilds grey Wardens fighting for him. He was there too so I doubt he missed it.

 

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#1129
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Finally I got my WoT2 copy too :)

Well I hoped to find more about Samson in it but one thing got me thinking (not sure if WoT2 spoilers are ok).

 

Do you think he knew about Corypheus plans for the grey wardens? I think he must have as we see in the Arbor Wilds grey Wardens fighting for him. He was there too so I doubt he missed it.

 

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Wait what? 

 

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Wait what? 

 

Spoiler

 

Sorry I searched again and couldn't find it anymore - I am currently wondering if I have now hallucinations. The book is quite big but I will try to find it again, at least to be sure that I am still right in my mind...

 

But here is what I remember:

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Sorry I searched again and couldn't find it anymore - I am currently wondering if I have now hallucinations. The book is quite big but I will try to find it again, at least to be sure that I am still right in my mind...

 

But here is what I remember:

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That sort of sounds familiar, but I think it might be from fanfiction - not World of Thedas (I haven't read through WoT yet).

 

Edit: yeah, it's from Nightmares of Red Stone (Ch 1).

 


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The International Association of Penniless Fanfic Writers and Appreciators of Fine Beverage United For the Promotion of Art, Culture And Other Aristocratically Named Things (don't ask about the acronym or you'll make me have a stroke) would like to thank the delightful Eliantariel and the superb Tigrae for their unequivocal appreciation and considerable free advertisement of a certain fanfic which is taking horribly long to be updated and has chapters longer than my mother's beard.

 

In view of such amazing actions, the Association wishes to express its gratitude and reward each with a humble monetary contribution in the hope of repaying their generous efforts to promote said fanfic.

 

*hands a US$10,000 check to each of them and applauds*

 

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#1133
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The International Association of Penniless Fanfic Writers and Appreciators of Fine Beverage United For the Promotion of Art, Culture And Other Aristocratically Named Things (don't ask about the acronym or you'll make me have a stroke) would like to thank the delightful Eliantariel and the superb Tigrae for their unequivocal appreciation and considerable free advertisement of a certain fanfic which is taking horribly long to be updated and has chapters longer than my mother's beard.

 

In view of such amazing actions, the Association wishes to express its gratitude and reward each with a humble monetary contribution in the hope of repaying their generous efforts to promote said fanfic.

 

*hands a US$10,000 check to each of them and applauds*

 

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Well it is a great fanfic :)

 

But to my defense it wasn't exactly those words I remember - it was no dialog between Samson and his sister just some few sentences from a narrator that tells about it. But I turned every page in the book and I can't find it - not even for a different character in the case I got it confused with Samson.

So I assume (and hope) I read it somewhere else and that I am not becoming crazy or can't differ between dream and reality anymore....



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What happens if you google Samson Dragon Age:

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Sweet Maker...
Some people never heard of DA 2, eh?


He was a minor character you only had to interact with twice.

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The short story is another case of "this could have been in the game and potentially add so much more layers of narrative"  :mellow:

 

Samson, Maddox, and even the rest of the red templars are so much more "alive" in it. Wouldn't have guessed since it seems to me that all those red templars you fought in DAI are nothing more but a bunch of drug induced crazy fighters. The short story seems to suggest that a lot of them actually took red lyrium voluntarily... and not because they willingly want to follow Corphyblabla, but because they are pretty much just as cornered as the mages - a side that we don't really get to explore in DA2&I  :(

 

The Kirkwall's templars after Meredith's death were left in such disarray... and Cullen just... left them like that (what?!)  :blink: 

 

Why am I not surprised that many took up Corphy's offer after that. Kirkwall is such a breeding ground for crazies  :mellow:


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I'm willing to cut Cullen slack on this, because it isn't clear exactly what happened after the Chantry's fall in Kirkwall.

I think the assumption is that if Cullen had stayed he might have stopped it, but he could have fallen too. But that would be a different story.
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#1137
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I'm willing to cut Cullen slack on this, because it isn't clear exactly what happened after the Chantry's fall in Kirkwall.

I think the assumption is that if Cullen had stayed he might have stopped it, but he could have fallen too. But that would be a different story.

 

I don't think he could have been able to stop it. As I remember the first conversation with him he was very enthusiastic about the Inquisition, so I think he accepted Cassandra's offer and left Kirkwall without much hesitation because he thought he could be a better help this way.

As we do not know what really happened in Kirkwall after Meredith's...problem...., I can not blame him entirely.


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#1138
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Paper & Steel is also from Samson's POV - so he may have only seen Cullen take off, without knowing any conversations that could have happened between the leaders of Kirkwall. Maybe Cullen thought Aveline had it all in hand, maybe Aveline said she had it all in hand, maybe Cassandra convinced Cullen that the Templars would be fine, we just don't know.

 

Cullen isn't completely at fault, just like nothing in this universe is completely one person's fault (except you Grand Cleric Elthina...), but he had a hand in it, like anything else.

 

Depending on your worldstate, Sebastian could have been throwing his armies against Kirkwall at the time, too - and none of that is reflected in Paper & Steel.

 

Maybe we'll have a DLC to experience what happened between DA2 and DA:I? Sort of like the Darkspawn Chronicles DLC?


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#1139
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I don't think he could have been able to stop it. As I remember the first conversation with him he was very enthusiastic about the Inquisition, so I think he accepted Cassandra's offer and left Kirkwall without much hesitation because he thought he could be a better help this way.

As we do not know what really happened in Kirkwall after Meredith's...problem...., I can not blame him entirely.

 

This is also the second time Cullen's seen a Circle fall, and fall disastrously.  Even worse than what happened in Ferelden.  Considering the nightmares he still suffers in Inquisition, he's probably got some emotional problems going on after Kirkwall goes up in flames.  I don't think it's his only motivation, but IMO part of him just wanted to GTFO.  And Cass offered an opportunity to both get out of Kirkwall, and make a real difference amid all the chaos.


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Paper & Steel is also from Samson's POV - so he may have only seen Cullen take off, without knowing any conversations that could have happened between the leaders of Kirkwall. Maybe Cullen thought Aveline had it all in hand, maybe Aveline said she had it all in hand, maybe Cassandra convinced Cullen that the Templars would be fine, we just don't know.

 

Cullen isn't completely at fault, just like nothing in this universe is completely one person's fault (except you Grand Cleric Elthina...), but he had a hand in it, like anything else.

 

Depending on your worldstate, Sebastian could have been throwing his armies against Kirkwall at the time, too - and none of that is reflected in Paper & Steel.

 

Maybe we'll have a DLC to experience what happened between DA2 and DA:I? Sort of like the Darkspawn Chronicles DLC?

 

The Samson chronicles eh?


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#1141
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The Samson chronicles eh?

 

I wouldn't complain...

 

Someone brought up on Tumblr how amazing it would have been to see Corypheus' recruitment process for everyone in the Dark!Inquisition: Samson, Calpernia, Alexius, Lord Seeker Lucius, etc. Making the dark!Inquisition even more human and seeing how Corypheus manipulated each one of them. We still don't know how he got the orb from Solas...

 

So yes, give us a Team Corypheus DLC!


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#1142
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Solas gave the orb to Cory for two bundles of elfroot, a cookie and his starting staff
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#1143
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Solas gave the orb to Cory for two bundles of elfroot, a cookie and his starting staff

 

Guy probably woke up super hungry from Uthenera, so I can't say I blame him. 



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Guy probably woke up super hungry from Uthenera, so I can't say I blame him.


It really sums what's important to him.

Getting high, sating the resulting munchies, and killing things

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Solas: Yo old dawg...heard you got the good stuff.

Cory: Thats right son! What you need?

S: Gimme some of that sweet sticky icky!

C: Aite
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#1146
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MOAR SAMSON IN THE SAMSON THREAD

 

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#1147
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Fill it with more! More!



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What, no Samson thread on the first page? Can't have:

 

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Sorry, my last playthrough was with the templars but the next will all have Samson glory in it, I promise - and hopefully many nice screenshots. Unfortunately it is quite late in the game so it will take a while...


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#1149
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My first though upon seeing Samson was: this guy looks dangerous!


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Mine was more of a "SAMSON FROM KIRKWALL?! OH, GOD NO. NO NO NO NO. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO REBUILD THE TEMPLARS FOR ME OH GOD."

 

Maximum heartbreak when I saw him walk over that hill. I wanted so much better for you, Sam.

 

I can't wait for more screenshots!


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