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[SmilesJA]

Yeah that was my second thought as well, I was surprised to see Samson in a prominent role, as a main villain no less.

[Tigrae]

 

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[SmilesJA]

I wonder how it feels to have red lyrium pertrude out of you.

[Tigrae]

I wonder how it feels to have red lyrium pertrude out of you.

 

Do you mean for everyone but Samson? It probably itches, I imagine? Maybe it burns. In game there's dialogue about how red lyrium is warm/hot.

 

One thing I realized: Samson took that vial of red from Corypheus and had no way of knowing he was resistant to the corruption. He took it and for all he knew, he'd become a red lyrium statue like she did. He was willing to become that, as far as he knew.

[Bugsie]

I could imagine red lyrium works the way gout does - elevated uric acid in the blood that goes on to form crystals in the joints, tendons and surrounding tissues.

 

Gout can induce arthritis like pain, I can imagine the pain that transformation with red lyrium would be 10 fold arthritic pain (but then having the advantage of super strength once you reached a certain level of pain).

 

In regard to Samson taking the vial willingly from Cory, yeah, he'd have no way of knowing he'd be immune.

 

Oh god, more sad headcanon incoming.

[Basement Cat]

What, no Samson thread on the first page? Can't have:

 

*snip*

 

Sorry, my last playthrough was with the templars but the next will all have Samson glory in it, I promise - and hopefully many nice screenshots. Unfortunately it is quite late in the game so it will take a while...

That scene always bugged me a bit. Cullen must have incredible eyesight to be able to recognize Samson from at least a mile away. Unless he had binoculars that we didn't see... 

[Tigrae]

Someone on le Tumblr came up with the brilliant idea of a Mad Max AU with Samson as Max and Calpernia as Imperator Furiosa, so I had to work some photoshop magic and make this a reality (because it's a perfect idea).

 

 

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[Jo Berry]

So, I'm guessing that the War Rig would be called the Iron Bull?

[Tigrae]

Oh man, YESSS!

 

The furthest we got was that Warboys are Red Templars, Corypheus is Immortan Joe, the general populace of the Citadel are Venatori, the Bullet Farmer and the People Eater are other ancient Magisters, and Imperator Calpernia is smuggling the slaves out when she runs across Mad Sam.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Calpernia's short story is up: Paying the Ferryman

[Bugsie]

Jo's story even references imperators.  This is very apt!

 

(I was late for work today thanks to my eagerness to read the story!)

[ModernAcademic]

The people in Sahrnia who were arrested by the red templars and kept in cages after they were sold irregularly by that lady in the village (Lady Something) were forced into slave labour. Their job was to mine the red lyrium.

 

Jo Berry, can you confirm this? Or any of the devs passing by the Samson thread?

[Tigrae]

This weekend we held "Samson Positivity Weekend" on Tumblr and I pledged $5 to a local drug rehab center for every new post that was created during the event. Another fan matched my contributions in her own community, a few people contributed one-time donations, and we ended up raising $640 (so far)!

 

A ton of amazing content was created: https://www.tumblr.c.../samsonpositive and the weekend went really well. Have a look through the tag for some incredible Samson-centric content.

[SmilesJA]

Just fresh off watching E3! What an amazing job you did raising money Tigrae!

[Tigrae]

It was more like an altruistic bribe: make me Samson content and I'll donate the bribe (heheheh)

[ModernAcademic]

The people in Sahrnia who were arrested by the red templars and kept in cages after they were sold irregularly by that lady in the village (Lady Something) were forced into slave labour. Their job was to mine the red lyrium.

 

Jo Berry, can you confirm this? Or any of the devs passing by the Samson thread?

 

Thanks for completely ignoring the question.

[Eliantariel]

Thanks for completely ignoring the question.

 

I got the impression that the workers are not only mining but they are exposed to the red lyrium and they start to change too - maybe only by being near the lyrium or maybe they are forced to ingest it by the red templars?

 

In the quest "Rocky Rescue" sometimes one of the prisoners says "You have to help us! They'll turn us into those...things!" (you can find it in this video at 7:29) and I remember an infected woman who asked my inquisitor to bring a goodbye letter to a tree for her lover when he returns. 

 

Back to Samson:

- Do we know how old he is?

He received his shield by knight commander Guylian who died 9:21 and guessing that he was around 18 when he received his shield he should be at least 38. But I don't think he is much older than this and still in his fortys. I think he might be looking older due to his condition. 

 

- Resistance against red lyrium

In his prisoner dialogue he says that the damage is done and that it only takes him more slowly. I am not sure if he means the blue and/or the red lyrium. In his judgement dialogue he says that Corypheus only delayed his corruption. So I guess his "resistance" only means that the is transformed more slowly and without Corypheus faster than before but more slowly than the other templars? 

 

- Samsons fate in DA2

I may have missed it but I couldn't find a tile in the dragon age keep for Samson - so I guess the new canon for Samson is that he did not return to the templars even if Hawke helped him to return in DA2. Which is sad. But it fits with his prisoner dialog that Corypheus gave him his sword back. This would not made sense when he became a templar again.

 

I do think that as a templar he would likely have accompanied Cullen when he left Kirkwall - at least I got the impression that Cullen took a few templars with him. Instead of Captain Rylen Samson could have been the second in command. Even if this is an even smaller role for a NPC I would have preferred this fate to what happened to him in DAI. 

[SmilesJA]

Thanks for completely ignoring the question.

 

Sorry! Was busy lately.

[SmilesJA]

Happy 4th Samson fans!

[Tigrae]

I got the impression that the workers are not only mining but they are exposed to the red lyrium and they start to change too - maybe only by being near the lyrium or maybe they are forced to ingest it by the red templars?

 

In the quest "Rocky Rescue" sometimes one of the prisoners says "You have to help us! They'll turn us into those...things!" (you can find it in this video at 7:29) and I remember an infected woman who asked my inquisitor to bring a goodbye letter to a tree for her lover when he returns. 

 

Back to Samson:

- Do we know how old he is?

He received his shield by knight commander Guylian who died 9:21 and guessing that he was around 18 when he received his shield he should be at least 38. But I don't think he is much older than this and still in his fortys. I think he might be looking older due to his condition. 

 

- Resistance against red lyrium

In his prisoner dialogue he says that the damage is done and that it only takes him more slowly. I am not sure if he means the blue and/or the red lyrium. In his judgement dialogue he says that Corypheus only delayed his corruption. So I guess his "resistance" only means that the is transformed more slowly and without Corypheus faster than before but more slowly than the other templars? 

 

- Samsons fate in DA2

I may have missed it but I couldn't find a tile in the dragon age keep for Samson - so I guess the new canon for Samson is that he did not return to the templars even if Hawke helped him to return in DA2. Which is sad. But it fits with his prisoner dialog that Corypheus gave him his sword back. This would not made sense when he became a templar again.

 

I do think that as a templar he would likely have accompanied Cullen when he left Kirkwall - at least I got the impression that Cullen took a few templars with him. Instead of Captain Rylen Samson could have been the second in command. Even if this is an even smaller role for a NPC I would have preferred this fate to what happened to him in DAI. 

 

Age: All we know is that he's "somewhere in his late 40's". I personally just say 48 (in 9:41), so we know he's around 38 when we meet him in Lowtown in DA2, he was 28 when Guylain is hanged (9:21) which means he's been a templar for about 20 years when he's kicked out (if he becomes one at 18 in 9:11).

 

Red Lyrium Resistance: Red lyrium is blighted lyrium, so I assumed from his prison dialogue he meant that Corypheus was keeping the blighted corruption at bay since Corypheus is a creature of the Blight and can control it (as we see him body-hop to a grey warden). Blue lyrium also erodes the mind of every templar to ever take it, but I don't think that's what he means by "corruption". I think he has a natural resistance to the Blight, which kept him from becoming a red lyrium monster like his men or like Meredith. Leliana also has the same resistance to The Blight as well (as we witness in the possible future that Alexius creates).

 

Samson's Fate in DA2: I think he can still join the Templars, I just don't think it matters what you choose for him. In my DA2 playthrough where Hawke sided with the Templars, I have codex entries about Hawke being forced out of her Viscountess position because the templars begin taking red lyrium, become paranoid, and oust her. I think its safe to assume that whatever you pick for him, the Templar Order in Kirkwall falls apart so it doesn't matter. From Paper & Steel, we have Samson looking after Maddox (and maybe other Tranquil?) so I think the city falling apart becomes more of a focus than keeping mages in check (and I'm not sure when the Templars abandon the Nevarran Accord). We still don't have a definite timeline of what happened between DA2 and DAI, and I really want one so bad.

 

I hope I don't sound too adamant, but I don't think Samson would have been taken even as a second in command, or for any position within the Inquisition. Cassandra needs people with faith, and I don't know that Samson has any left. Cullen is faithful, he believes, he's also very devout. Cullen's an idealist, and I think life has beaten the idealism out of Samson, he's too much of a realist. The Inquisition runs on hopes and dreams and optimism until they get to Skyhold, and I don't think Samson would have bought into the idea. I mean, he rejoins mostly because he can get lyrium and believes there's a big issue with blood mages in Kirkwall. I don't think he rejoins because he believes in what the Order in Kirkwall had become.

 

Samson is easily manipulated by Corypheus because he has so much anger and hurt inside of him, and an addiction he can exploit. I would rather that no one be in Samson's shoes, but I don't think there's anyone else out there in that world that could have had his compassion and rage turned into a weapon to use against a world he felt had slighted him and all the people he cared about.

[Tigrae]

Thanks for completely ignoring the question.

 

Were you asking one of us? Your original question was aimed at Jo Berry or a dev, so I didn't answer.

[Ninna]

Samson is very interesting. Maddox breaks my heart. His story tells a lot about who Samson truly is. The whole thing is just so sad.

[Tigrae]

There's a medical term for what you've got: an acute onset of Samsads.

 

The only treatment is watching videos of tiny animals making cute sounds, and tossing pennies into fountains to wish that we'll see Samson in DA4 and he'll be ok.

[SmilesJA]

There's a medical term for what you've got: an acute onset of Samsads.

 

The only treatment is watching videos of tiny animals making cute sounds, and tossing pennies into fountains to wish that we'll see Samson in DA4 and he'll be ok.

 

And hopefully a romance option. 

[thats1evildude]

I wonder how it feels to have red lyrium pertrude out of you.

 

I imagine it hurts at first, when it's just breaking through the skin and warping your bones, and then it goes numb.