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Imagining DA:I with Hawke as the Inquisitor - What would be different?


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At this point its very clear that Hawke was supposed to be the protagonist of DA:I but due to the bad reception of DA2 they abandoned those plans, hell the expansion was probably orginally the tie-in from II to Inquisition (with Hawke)

 

What do you think would be different? Would the previous DA2 companions return? I don't think so, Varric is already there but the rest would probably be restricted to cameos only (even Awakening had new companions)

 

I think the new companions would all be included

But would Hawke also get the mark? Possibly

And then he/she would clean his/her own mess up (Corypheus, Red Lyrium, Mage-Templar etc.)

 

Edit: this is only a thread for Hawke fans, please no "he wouldn't fit, he sucks I'm glad they chose a new protag"



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I have to completely disagree.  I don't think that the Inquisitor was intended to be Hawke.  I personally would not want to see Hawke in this situation because it would not suit them.  Based on player choice, Hawke could be seen as an apostate who ran away with another apostate who killed a grand cleric and several other innocent people.  I just don't think it would have been feasible and thankfully they didn't do it.  There's just too much that could have gone wrong or relied on a previous save game import which was impossible with the new console versions of the game.


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The fact I prefer Hawke from the protagonists so far, is that he was political only to the extend of killing politicians (or "politicians") and sparing others. He's a leader of his gang of friends, not an army; and he's looking out for his family and tries not get to get innocent people killed in the process.

 

But to answer the question, the Inquisition would rely a lot more on humor, dramatic timing and good hair.


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Instead of being successful at everything, we would fail at everything.

 

Because poor Hawke just has the world's worst luck.



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I have to completely disagree.  I don't think that the Inquisitor was intended to be Hawke.  I personally would not want to see Hawke in this situation because it would not suit them.  Based on player choice, Hawke could be seen as an apostate who ran away with another apostate who killed a grand cleric and several other innocent people.  I just don't think it would have been feasible and thankfully they didn't do it.  There's just too much that could have gone wrong or relied on a previous save game import which was impossible with the new console versions of the game.

I get it its your opinion but this is the wrong thread we are talking about how Inquisition could have been with hawke as protag not if its fits

 

And I also disagree maybe if Bioware had actually changed the story of DA:I with Corypheus etc. I could understand where you are coming from but as it stands its basically DA:II Part 2 with cleaning up the mess Hawke created (directly or indirectly)

It's like playing ME3 without Shepard for me, DA2 was this extended origin story where a lot of bad things happened and in Inquisition those conflicts are resolved



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 Never cared for Hawke as a protagonist, would have rather seen the hero of ferelden as the inquisitor, but the problem with that is depending on player choice, he or she can die at the end of Origin, still, saving the world from the blight is a much better resume than "I stumbled  bass ackwards into a room and got a deus ex machina stuck to my hand"


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At least my Hawke might have finally gotten laid, since the choices in DA:2 for straight females did not suit her at all. I think however even my Hawke couldn't say no to Cullen. :D


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 Never cared for Hawke as a protagonist, would have rather seen the hero of ferelden as the inquisitor, but the problem with that is depending on player choice, he or she can die at the end of Origin, still, saving the world from the blight is a much better resume than "I stumbled  bass ackwards into a room and got a deus ex machina stuck to my hand"

Then I guess they would have had the awakenings warden instead.
Still I like my Inquisitor how she is. I don't think I would have liked to see either of the other 2 become inquisitor. I would however like to play more of all three !



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@John_Sheparrd: I was responding to your initial statement "At this point it's very clear that Hawke was supposed to be the protagonist of DA:I" as I never saw this as a possibility.  As for an answer as to what would be different, I don't think the game would function well story wise, at all.  There are just too many variables in bringing back a protagonist with an established group of companions, where one of those companions could have been a romantic interest and where there is too high a possibility that a player could have made game choices that would have made the scenarios in DA:I seem impossible.  Apologies if you feel I railroaded your thread, but I just don't think the game would actually work with Hawke as a protagonist.


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I don't see Inquisition resolving conflicts. After defeating Corypheus, the country is still very much up to arms about Mages/Chantry/Templars triangle.

 

If "my" Hawke has been a star of DA:I, there would have been a lot of trolling and less stoic reactions coming from the protagonist. I think her involvement in who will be the next Divine would have been also much bigger.

 

I prefer much more Bioware's changing protagonists in sequels. Watching Shepard's dramatic personality change in Mass Effect 3 was very cringeworthy. I think this way there is a higher chance to maintain some consistency regarding how protagonists are written.


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At least my Hawke might have finally gotten laid, since the choices in DA:2 for straight females did not suit her at all. I think however even my Hawke couldn't say no to Cullen. :D

OK, this would have been the only reason I would not have minded Hawke in DAI.   I don't mind SS romances, but I found all 4 of options lacking in so many ways.   :)   Cullen, yes, Hawke found him attractive in DA2,  Spent as much time as possible talking to him repeating conversations.  


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I don't see Inquisition resolving conflicts. After defeating Corypheus, the country is still very much up to arms about Mages/Chantry/Templars triangle.

 

If "my" Hawke has been a star of DA:I, there would have been a lot of trolling and less stoic reactions coming from the protagonist. I think her involvement in who will be the next Divine would have been also much bigger.

 

I prefer much more Bioware's changing protagonists in sequels. Watching Shepard's dramatic personality change in Mass Effect 3 was very cringeworthy. I think this way there is a higher chance to maintain some consistency regarding how protagonists are written.

 

Yeah, Shepard sort of destroyed any confidence I had that the character I start with will end up as someone I recognize when the series is over.  


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@John_Sheparrd: I was responding to your initial statement "At this point it's very clear that Hawke was supposed to be the protagonist of DA:I" as I never saw this as a possibility.  As for an answer as to what would be different, I don't think the game would function well story wise, at all.  There are just too many variables in bringing back a protagonist with an established group of companions, where one of those companions could have been a romantic interest and where there is too high a possibility that a player could have made game choices that would have made the scenarios in DA:I seem impossible.  Apologies if you feel I railroaded your thread, but I just don't think the game would actually work with Hawke as a protagonist.

no worries I actually prefer the idea of every game - a new protagonist

but they wrote DA:I in a way (especially with Corypheus as the big bad) that it just felt wrong without Hawke in my opinion


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Yeah, Shepard sort of destroyed any confidence I had that the character I start with will end up as someone I recognize when the series is over.  

yeah but thats because they went overboard with the autodialouge

I thought Shep from ME 1 and ME2 was largely the same

 

In ME3 though I agree I couldn't identify with him in many situations I wasn't in control anymore

 

If people liked the auto dialouge in ME3 the Inquisitor would also probably be talking all the time without any input from the player so this has nothing to do with Hawke


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Then I guess they would have had the awakenings warden instead.
Still I like my Inquisitor how she is. I don't think I would have liked to see either of the other 2 become inquisitor. I would however like to play more of all three !

 and therein lies the problem with the dragon age series I think, we're always given different protagonists and there isn't too much of a focus on developing any one  of them in particular



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I don't think Hawke initially being the Inquisitor is too far fetched. Hawke goes to the Conclave to be the mediator, is looking around hears something, and the explosion happens. Hawke wakes up in the breach.

Having said that, I can almost certainly say I would not have purchased the game though. I really didn't like much about DA2 Hawke included, and it would have come at the expense of playing multiple races.

I can just imagine how the game would go. Josephine gets assassinated, wardens turn into to demons, whoever you try to put on the throne in Orlais gets killed anyway. The guardian elves turn on you at the well of sorrows for no reason. You ally with the mages they just go crazy and turn into demons in Haven and start killing people, you ally with templars they just start abusing mages.
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Wasn't parts of Inquisition based on the canceled expansion, The Exalted March? If so, that would explain a lot. 



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Cassandra would probably not approve of Isabela and Hawke's shenanigans, which would make it all worth it.

Cassandra: I was unaware that the Champion was so...adventurous.

Varric: Did you think chapter 17 was all lies?

Cassandra: I assumed it was embellishment.

Varric: Well, you assumed wrong. Not that this wouldn't be a new thing for you.
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From David Gaider blog:

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From David Gaider blog:

That's interesting. Almost makes me glad it wasn't greenlit, if the implications are what they sound like.



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To be fair the Inquisitor is so Dry Board that any hero character could be that role and the plot could remain pretty much the same.

Even in regards to the Mage-Templar War it is noted that most saw Kirkwall as a rock and a hard place decision, by the time of the Conclave it is likely only uninformed or extremists would harbor ill will to the Champion. If Quizzy was the HoF I also think the plot would stay pretty similar. Even with the fake-calling various immunities for the HoF could easily be dropped in single line dialogue; The Mark, for one. Heck Oghren could have been the Quizzy and the only real thing that may change is more drinking and whining about having the fade perma-attached to him.
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From David Gaider blog:

 

This just makes me wish the exalted march dlc wasn't cancelled 


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From David Gaider blog:

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Hmm that's certainly giving me a rocks fall everyone dies vibe there.


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Hmm that's certainly giving me a rocks fall everyone dies vibe there.

This actually makes me glad it was canceled. I am not a fan of everyone dying, least of all my hero's. It happens too often in stories these days.


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Can't say I lament the loss of the expansion, though now I'm forever curious about the details.