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Imagining DA:I with Hawke as the Inquisitor - What would be different?


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#26
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yeah but thats because they went overboard with the autodialouge

I thought Shep from ME 1 and ME2 was largely the same

 

In ME3 though I agree I couldn't identify with him in many situations I wasn't in control anymore

 

If people liked the auto dialouge in ME3 the Inquisitor would also probably be talking all the time without any input from the player so this has nothing to do with Hawke

 

 It wasn't a big change, but I did start noticing it in 2.  I was fine with ME2 until I got grunt and my paragon Shepard sort of laughed at the merc and said to start running.   That's when I started to feel like Shepard had been slightly twisted by TIM and it just got worse, for me.  :)  Yes, auto dialogue was very irritating to me.  Plus, if ME3 had been someone new, I wouldn't have has as many issues with the endings.  So I'm just a person who prefers new heros in each game.  



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DAI's focus on faith would have had a lot more weight if Hawke was the PC, especially after everything he/she went through in DA2 (and the cancelled expansion).

 

Hmm that's certainly giving me a rocks fall everyone dies vibe there.

 

Lol, people going straight from DA2 to DAI would've been pissed 'Uh, where are all my companions? Why is everyone talking about them like they're dead?!"



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Its such a shame that Hawke isn't the protagonist in DA:I

The story was basically written for him/her, the bland Inquisitor is just a place holder


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I think it would have made the game a whole lot better. The Inquisitor was really built towards the hard-core roleplayers, but for most, ended up being a blank slate with no motivation. Even the Warden, a character without a Voice Actor, managed to have move character than the Inquisitor. 


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#30
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 I would sell the Inquisitor's soul to Imshael to have Hawke instead. Hawke definitely deserves the redemption that this story would offer.


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Its such a shame that Hawke isn't the protagonist in DA:I

The story was basically written for him/her, the bland Inquisitor is just a place holder

I don't think so. It would have been too problematic for Hawke to be it.



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I probably wouldn't be playing it.
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 Never cared for Hawke as a protagonist, would have rather seen the hero of ferelden as the inquisitor, but the problem with that is depending on player choice, he or she can die at the end of Origin, still, saving the world from the blight is a much better resume than "I stumbled  bass ackwards into a room and got a deus ex machina stuck to my hand"

 

The thing is, having a Grey Warden as the Inquisitor just wouldn't work with Cory as a villain, considering he's like an anti-archdemon. They would have to re-work the whole story.

 

I would have preferred Hawke personally, considering every problem in DA:I is basically his/her fault. Would have been nice to see him/her be the one fixing it.



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I think it would have been a lot more fun. Sarcastic Hawke-quisitor would have been hilarious, much more appealing that the blandness of the Inquisitor.
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The thing is, having a Grey Warden as the Inquisitor just wouldn't work with Cory as a villain, considering he's like an anti-archdemon. They would have to re-work the whole story.

 

I would have preferred Hawke personally, considering every problem in DA:I is basically his/her fault. Would have been nice to see him/her be the one fixing it.

Not necessarily. You could (literally) handwave it with the mark, saying it makes you immune to Corypheus' power over Wardens. I'm not saying it's the best choice, but it seems like that's what they did with dwarves, allowing them to dream, or be connected to the fade at all. Odd that dwarf inquisitors aren't very confused after talking to Solas...



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For one something awesome would happen every time I would've pressed a button.



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I imagine things will be the same, except we'll probably have more diplomatic, aggressive and sarcastic responses rather than the dull neutral options we do now
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Other then the fact I would have disliked only having 1 playable race, I don't think I would have minded it so much. I think my DAI version of my lady Hawke is absolutely beautiful. So long as she still carried her sarcastic attitude and Merrell came along for the ride.



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I have an irrational love of Hawke so I would have massively preferred to play as her! *Flees*


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One issue Hawke is his/her must be cursed by the maker bad luck to have such bad luck and their track record. They have a abysmal record of dancing like puppets for various forces and unwittedly setting in motion various horrific events.

 

I mean the last time they fought Corypheus they danced like a puppet and gave him what he wanted and he was barely conscious and imprisoned at the time, odds are they would likely invertedly sent Corypheus to the black city causing something worse than the blight to happen and of course all their remaining relatives would die tragically.



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Hawke would have done what he always did, fail.
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The game would be better. And funnier. And we could probably romance Cassandra as females.

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Hawke would have done what he always did, fail.


Hawke does not always fail. This is a misconception, and it makes me wonder: if people who even say this, have played DA2, at all.
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Hawke would have done what he always did, fail.

 

Ask the Arishok about that.

 

Oh wait, you can't. Hawke killed him.



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Ask the Arishok about that.
 
Oh wait, you can't. Hawke killed him.


Or made a deal. I made the deal.

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From David Gaider blog:

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Laughable, no, I am not happy, its interesting when characters are thrown, or consumed by catastrophic events.

 

I liked DAI, that said:  The Inquisitor is so genereic, you could <Insert here> just about any character. A character whose only reason for being speical was his/her accidentally being at the Wrong (right) place at the Wrong (right) time and being enabled with the Anchor. Period. I could easily see Hawke becoming the Inquisitor.... or Sigrun, Varric, Oghren,  the DAA Orlesian Warden, Zevran, Idle Dwarf... etc. etc.


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I'm just guessing based on how I perceive both games in retrospective. Dragon Age 2 feels to me not like to short a game but more like a to long an origin story. Story wise DA2 is necessary to generate a certain world state, which the overall story needs to continue. That is maybe one thing DAO failed to achieve, because afterwards the world was to stable to directly continue with the overall story arc.

 

So what DA2 basically does is setting of the world, introducing a charismatic main character, introducing an ancient evil, letting the Quanaries lose, filling the world with riddles like what is Flemeth and actually starting the Inquisition.

 

DAI in turn feels rather short in terms of main story. It is not as short as some people like to complain, I basically can't take people serious doing a speed run and after that start complaining, that they can do it in under 3 hours... but it still it is definitely not as long as DAO.

 

From this and the few things we know about the cancelled expansion, it seems very likely to me, that DAI is actually more like a DA2.5 and Hawke was supposed to be the protagonist. When you develop a story it normally starts with a few defining moments you keep, while the rest is constantly changing. We know from David Gaider that the Temple of Mythal was there in the expansion. Other moments could be blowing up the chantry and the conclave. 

 

So my best guest is, that the way it was supposed to happen was Varric arranging a meeting between Cassandra and Hawke at the conclave. Maybe Cassandras reasoning was, that Hawke might be able to talk sense into everybody, but in the middle of it, things start once again to go south for Hawke. The anchor and everything might have been added after Hawke was skipped, to make the Inquisitor more unique.

 

The main goal for the story would have been bringing Hawke to the temple of mythal to basically set of the next story arc with some old gods on the run. From what David Gaider hat said, we can conclude that this version of DAI would have been much more tragic, than the lightweight version we got. Which in turn would be more in line with Hawke, as he is a rather tragic hero. Maybe Hawke was supposed to die in that confrontation along with a lot of companions, or he would have become the vessel for the dreadwolf making him the next antagonist.

 

So what would be different? I think the story would flow more smoothly and would have more meaning to it. Some quests would make a lot more sense and be a lot more tragic, because Hawke would constantly be reminded of what he set into motion. The overall story arc might be a lot darker and more in terms with the feeling of DAO. Obviously we would see a lot of different side quest, maybe wicked eyes and wicked hearts would not have happened or in a very different way, but the main steps of the story would be there. 


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#48
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the ending of DA2 felt like the true beginning of hawkes story , the return of coryepheus definitely felt like hawke should have been there to deal with him , hawke did all the build up to inquisition in DA2 then some non-entity stepped in and took his place , and it didn't matter that you could choose the race of the character because they all felt wrong and out of place , if hawke had been inquisitor I don't think the game would have felt so bland .



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Imagining DA:I with HoF as the Inquisitor, The hero found the Holy ashes and some quizzy take the place as the Inquisitor? You had already an Origin Background from DAO and more reasons to be affected to the advisors/companions (what is the point of all of this cameo with a new character?),and the enemy is a special darkspawn.

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As and afterthought - and it is really wild speculation - DAI was delayed for quite some time, which was used among other things, to introduce different races. Maybe Hawke was the desired protagonist for a much longer period, than we think. A lot of things from the alpha version were kicked out, why not Hawke? By the way, this would that those people have won, who value a different set of textures more than a consistent and engaging story :-(