Imagining DA:I with Hawke as the Inquisitor - What would be different?
#51
Posté 08 février 2015 - 11:29
S/he probably wouldn't have asked stupid questions like a Dalish inquisitor (who supposedly still worship old gods) asking "Who is Mythal?" For two.
Inquisitor probably wouldn't have gotten to romance Cullen- which is probably the only thing that would have made me sad about having Hawke as inquisitor for three. (Unless Fenris was brought back and not killed off as one of the above posts implies.)
The armor would have been much better looking. (Was so jealous looking at Hawkes armor in Here lies the Abyss- it's not fair!).
The banter probably would have been a lot more fun. (Fenris vs. Vivienne? What I wouldn't give to hear some of those conversations. I think he's the only one that could probably put her in her place. Or Fenris vs. Dorian? Can't even imagine how great that would have been.)
Damn it. Now all I want is a Hawke inquisitor.
#52
Posté 08 février 2015 - 01:20
Ask the Arishok about that.
Oh wait, you can't. Hawke killed him.
And completly failed to use that at all, he succeeds at waiting for things to fall apart and slaughtering people, he fails at actually achieving anything.
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#53
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Posté 08 février 2015 - 03:45
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As and afterthought - and it is really wild speculation - DAI was delayed for quite some time, which was used among other things, to introduce different races. Maybe Hawke was the desired protagonist for a much longer period, than we think. A lot of things from the alpha version were kicked out, why not Hawke? By the way, this would that those people have won, who value a different set of textures more than a consistent and engaging story :-(
Definitely I think when they made Legacy they were clearly setting Hawke up to be the protag in the next game but then they cancelled the expansion which would have been a lead in into Inquisition wifh Hawke as the Inquisitor they also sadly dropped their plans for Hawke
I'm still pissed about it soo much potential thrown out of the window because of adding shitty races
#54
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Posté 08 février 2015 - 03:49
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And completly failed to use that at all, he succeeds at waiting for things to fall apart and slaughtering people, he fails at actually achieving anything.
Hawke is the only protag who doesn't get everything handed to them
its a shame to see that so many people degrade him/her just because they want their power fantasies
well I guess you succeded now we have the Inquisitior who never fails and wins without any real problems one of the most boring protags ever
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#55
Posté 08 février 2015 - 06:45
I can see it now, Corypheus win and becomes a god, because Hawke is incapable of doing or saving anyone.
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#56
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Posté 08 février 2015 - 07:05
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Given how my DA 2 story played out, I was glad Hawke didn't end up being Inquisitor. He lost his sister, brother and his mother. Had to kill a close friend because he blew up the Kirkwall Chantry and he was on the run for years. Hawk was a broken man who had been thoroughly beaten into the ground as well. Add on top of that the fact that his actions allowed Corypheus to walk free and it becomes clear that Hawke couldn't lead the Inquisition if he wanted to. Don't get me wrong, I like Hawke. But, you can only take so much before the mental and emotional scars start to run really deep and given what happened to Hawke he couldn't shoulder the responsibility.
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#57
Posté 09 février 2015 - 12:49
The game would probably be 10x better, that's what would be different. I cry to think of all the wasted potential due to the fact there was no tie in from Exalted March to Inquisition, and wasted effort of adding in multiple race options (although I do enjoy getting to play as an elf again) when it could've been better spent elsewhere. I heard that many companions were supposed to die in Exalted March. That would've been interesting to see, even if it would've been heartbreaking, seeing as I loved the cast except for Isabela. It also makes more sense for Hawke to have been Inquisitor because Corypheus. I don't understand (well, I kinda do) why they didn't go through with it. Sure, da2 was a big disappointment for a lot of people (myself included, I hated the game at first, but I played it again in December for the first time since it came out, and I loved it so much more, a lot more than DAI) but they could've redeemed themselves. Look at all the positive reviews they got for MoTA and Legacy. Exalted March could've been the saving grace of that game, changed people's opinions, and been a nice lead-in to Inquisition. Why start something and not finish it, Bioware? They should've seen it through to the end. I always wondered what an Exalted March would look like, ever since I first heard the term. Now that chance is gone, sadly. Now I hear on the forums(since I'm new here) about Bioware saying that each game will have a new protagonist? Did they say that before or after DA2 came out? If it was after, I think Bioware just pulled that out of their ass. I believe they had every full intention to make Hawke into the Shepherd of the Dragon Age series, but because DA2 didn't do so well, they came up with that excuse just to be rid of Hawke and make fans happy. Now with all of the positive feedback on DAI, I wouldn't be surprised if they turn on their own statement, and put Inky back as the protag for DA4. That's probably why they haven't released any news of story DLC yet. "Should we kill off/have the Inquisitor disappear for the next game like we did the Warden and Hawke? Or keep them around for DA4? Hmm..."
#58
Posté 09 février 2015 - 01:18
I think you're being very optimistic. There are a lot of rose colored glasses around the forum, but I would definitely not have been happy to have Hawke forced on me again. Her role in DAI was just enough. It put closure on the character, and the somber/ repentant tone helped me to forgive the lack of agency and competence in DA2, but there's no way I'd play another whole game as that twit.Sure, da2 was a big disappointment for a lot of people (myself included, I hated the game at first, but I played it again in December for the first time since it came out, and I loved it so much more, a lot more than DAI) but they could've redeemed themselves. Look at all the positive reviews they got for MoTA and Legacy. Exalted March could've been the saving grace of that game, changed people's opinions, and been a nice lead-in to Inquisition.
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#59
Posté 09 février 2015 - 04:23
yeah but thats because they went overboard with the autodialouge
I thought Shep from ME 1 and ME2 was largely the same
In ME3 though I agree I couldn't identify with him in many situations I wasn't in control anymore
If people liked the auto dialouge in ME3 the Inquisitor would also probably be talking all the time without any input from the player so this has nothing to do with Hawke
Mostly in the renegade, my paragon shep is pretty much the same imo.
#60
Posté 09 février 2015 - 04:36
It would have been way cooler if the Human Noble Inquisitor story could have been a Hawke Import. I mean why not the Inquisitor had two VAs anyway, you could have the American one for the other race and then the British one would be Hawke's VA and Hawke would be the protag. If you want a new Protag you can have one. I actually don't know why they didn't do this. Hawke's role in Inquisition could have then been filled by the HoF, and better still the Inquisitor's male and female VA could have been used for the HoF....sigh why didn't they do this. Lord Inquisitor Garth Hawke, Lord of House Arnell, Champion of Kirkwall, Herald of the Blessed Andraste herself.
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#61
Posté 09 février 2015 - 04:52
Nothing would be different, as long as Flemeth existed. Neither Hawke nor Inquisitor could make any real difference, it was all probably Flemeth's plays. They just danced to her tune without knowing. Hero of Ferelden was the only protagonist who could actually make any real difference if Morrigan wasn't attracted to the well of sorrows, like a moth to a flame. Still, he delayed Flemeth's plans of obtaining Urthemiel's power by a decade. Flemeth probably saved Hawke so Corypheus could be free with his blood, knowing Solas needs someone powerful to unlock his orb. She probably thought that Fenharel would think of her as an obstacle and stop/kill her to restore Arlathan and found a clever way to take his toy from him.
#62
Posté 09 février 2015 - 07:46
Hawke is the only protag who doesn't get everything handed to them
its a shame to see that so many people degrade him/her just because they want their power fantasies
well I guess you succeded now we have the Inquisitior who never fails and wins without any real problems one of the most boring protags ever
Having a protag able to fail is fine, having me facepalm and yell at the screen about how much of a tool the protag is? Not so great
#63
Posté 09 février 2015 - 09:52
As much as I love Hawke, I'm glad they weren't the Inquisitor. For one thing, I like experiencing revelations about the elven history/beliefs, etc as an actual elf. Plus the potential to learn more (e.g about Solas) through dlc.
The fact that Hawke is just a 'normal' person plunged into the chaos/drama adds to their charm. Giving them something as world-shaking as the Anchor would detract from that, I think.
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#64
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:10
I kinda wanna write a fan-fiction now...
#65
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:15
#66
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:21
As much as I love Hawke, I'm glad they weren't the Inquisitor. For one thing, I like experiencing revelations about the elven history/beliefs, etc as an actual elf. Plus the potential to learn more (e.g about Solas) through dlc.
The fact that Hawke is just a 'normal' person plunged into the chaos/drama adds to their charm. Giving them something as world-shaking as the Anchor would detract from that, I think.
I agree 1999999999%
#67
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:33
no matter what we do Celene would die I imagine
#68
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:35
(to TheTallMan1979) Pretty much how the story of one of my Hawkes played out with the added bonus that the friend he killed was also the man he loved. His sister survived, though, but because of everything done to and by him, he thought it best to leave her life and that of his friends. That man was troubled as hell by the end of DAII.
#69
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:37
no matter what we do Celene would die I imagine
Wouldn't that be a good thing? ![]()
#70
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:40
It would be narratively superior in pretty much every way
#71
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:53
Wouldn't that be a good thing?
DA2 had its moments
#72
Posté 09 février 2015 - 10:57
DA2 had its moments
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I have to admit I'd probably prefer Hawke over my human Inquisitor. If only because Fenris and troll Hawke warms my heart.
#73
Posté 09 février 2015 - 11:22
As much as I love hawke judging by their luck it would go like this
Every one they love dies and then one of their companions blow up skyhold





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