GOG is GOGing. What is new?
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Guest_TrillClinton_*
I don't get it. How is this different from the site? Is it just that it's a client as opposed to going through a browser?
They will be able to incorporate more services in a stand alone client application rather than browser based one. Example, manual updating when using the browser application while client application would be make it much easier. It is basically giving more options to manage the products you have installed on your computer for you. The browser executes web applications in a sandbox so that is not possible
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
They will be able to incorporate more services in a stand alone client application rather than browser based one. Example, manual updating when using the browser application while client application would be make it much easier. It is basically giving more options to manage the products you have installed on your computer for you. The browser executes web applications in a sandbox so that is not possible
Guest_TrillClinton_*
So it is the same system through a client. Thanks, I just didn't understand if it was some new thing or not.
No prob! It will probably be the same system + more. A bit like how different the steam website and the client application are.
They will be able to incorporate more services in a stand alone client application rather than browser based one. Example, manual updating when using the browser application while client application would be make it much easier. It is basically giving more options to manage the products you have installed on your computer for you. The browser executes web applications in a sandbox so that is not possible
Guest_TrillClinton_*
That sounds like DRM.
Not really, the application could be seen as a layer running on top of your other processes. It is far different from the application owning your software
Why would Steam suffer significant losses?
Everyone is locked into that ecosystem because of friends, F2P games, and it being the home of AAA, mid-tier, and indie gaming on PC.
Only a euphoric vocal minority cares about DRM as inoffensive as Steam anyways.
Guest_TrillClinton_*
Why would Steam suffer significant losses?
Everyone is locked into that ecosystem because of friends, F2P games, and it being the home of AAA and indie gaming on PC.
Only a euphoric vocal minority cares about DRM as inoffensive as Steam anyways.
Steam is on a totally different level to this gog. GOG won't strike a dent to it.
There are a hand full of games that are currently running a form of GOG Galaxy to test online multiplayer (Currently Aliens Vs. Predator & Double Dragon Trilogy that I know of) these games use a beta that allows for auto updating and online play.
Guest_Lathrim_*
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It's sad that the DRM-free game feature is something that needs to be advertised in this day and age. Steam is going to suffer significantly losses thanks to Galaxy, not that I could care, I hate DRM in all forms.
And next to this we will have the classic GOG for all our "classical" gaming needs.
You're severely underestimating Valve's grasp on PC gaming.
GOG is awesome, but this isn't even going to put a dent in Steam's playerbase.
People vastly overestimate how much the average gamer cares about 100% DRM free, especially when it comes to going up against Steam.
You're severely underestimating Valve's grasp on PC gaming.
Nah, just optimistic (probably foolishly) that this will change the PC gaming market and perhaps have Steam go the same route. I'm aware of how many people are riding Valve's shaft with an inability to dismount.
Still, CD Projekt Red and their ways have quickly become quite known to people in recent years so even if it takes a few more years, I'm sure eventually they could end up being a good competitor to Valve and their Steam.
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Nah, just optimistic (probably foolishly) that this will change the PC gaming market and perhaps have Steam go the same route. I'm aware of how many people are riding Valve's shaft with an inability to dismount.
Still, CD Projekt Red and their ways have quickly become quite known to people in recent years so even if it takes a few more years, I'm sure eventually they could end up being a good competitor to Valve and their Steam.
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Considering we haven't owned games for years and years in the first place, I don't think the lack of DRM is going to get anyone to jump to a different client.
I was going to find the KotOR EULA to read this, but I don't have the game downloaded to my computer. I DO have KotOR II here though, and opened the EULA thinking I'd have to trudge through pages of text to get there: but it was literally the second paragraph!
I didn't even realize it was that bad. Why are we so worried about DRM again?
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Nah, just optimistic (probably foolishly) that this will change the PC gaming market and perhaps have Steam go the same route. I'm aware of how many people are riding Valve's shaft with an inability to dismount.
Still, CD Projekt Red and their ways have quickly become quite known to people in recent years so even if it takes a few more years, I'm sure eventually they could end up being a good competitor to Valve and their Steam.
That they also run some really solid sales is a good start for them, since that's one of the main advantages of Steams. Other than that, they just need to build up more of a library of bigger titles. Right now, they're mainly only good for indie or classic games.
In either case having a real competitor to Steam would be a good thing. Not because I hate DRM in all its forms or anything like that but because one company owning that much of the market is generally never good for the consumer, even if the company is as loved as Valve is.
If GOG is the company that ends up being that competitor then all the better, especially since the only other real candidate right now is EA's Origin.
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
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This new client should attract consumers as I have read people saying they prefer having a client for quick access to there games with no need to do manual updates, so for these people convenience is a factor.
It's also for matchmaking in MP games, which GOG has no functionality for as of yet.
Considering we haven't owned games for years and years in the first place, I don't think the lack of DRM is going to get anyone to jump to a different client.
I was going to find the KotOR EULA to read this, but I don't have the game downloaded to my computer. I DO have KotOR II here though, and opened the EULA thinking I'd have to trudge through pages of text to get there: but it was literally the second paragraph!
No probably not but I do see GOG Galaxy growing as a serious competitor. This combined with better service from GOG could lead to it growing bigger than anticipated. As Cyonan said, this can only be a good thing for the PC game market which is solely dominated by Valve and piracy currently. (well I suppose piracy will continue regardless)
Edit: reading over that again, it reads like they can literally remove the game from your computer at any time without your permission. Am I the only one seeing that?
Yeah, I'm not worried about DRM.
They don't even have the technology for that though do they? If they could do that, don't you think they would be removing pirated games from people's computers? I've heard no news of that. It sounds like they can change the game via patches and even disable it but that only works if it's an online only game or has automatic patches that you have no ability to stop.
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
No probably not but I do see GOG Galaxy growing as a serious competitor. This combined with better service from GOG could lead to it growing bigger than anticipated. As Cyonan said, this can only be a good thing for the PC game market which is solely dominated by Valve and piracy currently. (well I suppose piracy will continue regardless)
They don't even have the technology for that though do they? If they could do that, don't you think they would be removing pirated games from people's computers? I've heard no news of that. It sounds like they can change the game via patches and even disable it but that only works if it's an online only game or has automatic patches that you have no ability to stop.
I do agree that competition for Valve is an excellent idea.
I'm certain they have the technology for it. When you give an application administrator privileges, that app can read and write to the hard drive (that's what it's doing when you save or delete a saved game). They could drop in a program that finds all files associated with the game and deletes them. The outcry would probably be insane though.
Um so Arcanum or ToEE?
Well, Arcanum's clearly older visually but has a richer world and, if memory serves, combat is in RT as opposed to ToEE where you take turns. You can easily get side-tracked in Arcanum because there's SO much to do and you never feel like you're doing fetch quests. Also, Arcanum is more of a Steampunk-ish type of world where magic and technology try to co-exist whereas ToEE is more of a high-fantasy kind of world. There are LOTS of companions in Arcanum but your ability to recruit them will largely depend on whether you're more magically or technologically-inclined.
I would suggest you check a few videos on Arcanum to see whether the visuals and gameplay is something you can get behind. If it is, I would strongly recommend it as it is the better value of the two.
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