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[Mister J]

Because Shepard is human and the humans killed Souvereign. That is why the focus of the Reapers & Collectors shifted to humans, and that is why they went to Earth first - after the Batarian planet but that is where they entered the galaxy.

[GalacticWolf5]

Shepard, a Human, killed a Reaper and delayed the cycles. That makes him special to the Reapers. That's why they abduct Humans in ME2. Also why they shift their focus on Earth after harvesting the Batarians in ME3.

So yeah, Earth was the focus because that's where the Reapers mainly were.

[niniendowarrior]

I guess because Earth was the first to fall and acted as the Reapers' base of operations?  Furthermore, humans were the ones building the Crucible so all the other council races that initially shunned them are now having to beg for forgiveness by pledging support in building the Crucible and giving in to human demands of "Save Earth".

[GalacticWolf5]

I guess because Earth was the first to fall and acted as the Reapers' base of operations?

Earth was not the first to fall. The Batarian worlds were the first to fall.

[BananaDePijama]

SHEPARD IS HUMAN AND HARBY HATES SHEP

THE HUMAN FLEET RAPED SOVEREIGN ASS

THE REAPERS ARE WITH ALMOST FULL FORCE ON EARTH

THE REAPERS MAIN TARGET ARE THE HUMANS, JUST REMEMBER THE HUMAN REAPER LARVA FROM ME2.

[GalacticWolf5]

what about Palaven and Thessia? from the looks of there were plently of reapers

Yeah there were, but the main fight was on Earth. People were still fighting on other worlds too, there's no need for Shepard to be there to fight. Also, if I remember correctly, the last mission is on Earth only because the Citadel was brought there. If the Citadel had stayed where it was, the Crucible would've been brought there and would've have been used there.

[Vazgen]

The war was not about Earth but we got the most information on Earth situation. It makes sense for Shepard to get updates on the situation on humanity's homeworld, don't you think? Shepard fights for Earth, not for the whole galaxy, but because the game is focused on Shepard's journey it appears as if the war is about liberating Earth. The thing is that to save Earth he needs to save the galaxy and that's why the Crucible is built. And after it's finished, it was going to be moved wherever the Citadel was at the time. It was moved to Earth, so the battle took place there. If it was moved to Palaven, the final mission would've been Priority Palaven.

[Linkenski]

From the reapers' perspective it makes sense.

The problem is how much Shepard seems to care and in my perspective also Anderson.

I felt like despite ME1 being about the struggle of Humanity entering the galactic civilization, it went out of its way to show that humanity-first was not popular. Look at Ashley, look at Terra Firma and that preacher dude.

I do buy that Shepard is human and needs to look out for his people though. It makes more sense than if he wanted to save Thessia and let Earth burn. But like Dragon Age Inquisition has problems with its timeline surrounding the closure of the Breach, it seems like Mass Effect 3 has problems with its timelime regarding when the different worlds were hit.

In the intro we get the impression that all reapers have headed for Earth. We don't yet know how bad It is in the rest of the galaxy. Then we get to the council after Mars and they all talk as if Earth is the first world that has been hit. I assume this is merely a couple of hours after the intro by the way. However, after the meeting you talk to the Titian councilor in Udina's office to be briefed about the war summit on Menae. It seems Palaven is also heavily under Reaper attack.

It doesn't take long at all before we realize the entire galaxy is already hit, in what seems like the same time frame as Earth's invasion. And then I feel like the massive focus on Earth seems kind of hokie.

The worst thing is mostly that Anderson whom I felt was very 'for the entire galaxy's best interests' in ME1 cares so much about Earth, but after all he is a military leader and it wouldn't make sense for him to abandon his own race either. It seems quite silly how he doesn't even ask Shepard to drop him off outside of the Reaper hotzone in Vancouver at the beginning because it's like "where do you think you're going??" when he stops up and tells you he's not coming.

Sometimes I wonder if there was a very early version of the plot where the scope was simply Earth, but then it got peer reviewed to death just like the rest of the game except for the ending.

[Orikon]

Reapers took heavily losses due to humanity. Not to mention that Shepard is a human,who himself lead the attack against Sovereign,the Collectors and smashed an asteroid into an entire relay to slow the Reapers down.

 

Plus,Earth was next in line after the Batarians,and the majority of the Reaper fleet was stationed there,so obviously taking Earth back would be a huge blow to the Reapers.

 

....and your Shepard being a spacer or a colonist....well,Bioware can't make entire story changes just because of your Shepard's background.

Still,even if I was born in a colony or on spaceships,I'd still care about my species's homeworld.

[Vazgen]

why did the reapers move the crucible to earth?

I always thought it was a trap. To get the united galactic fleet in one place and crush them eliminating any future resistance. As for why Earth, they knew that Shepard is the one uniting races out there, so it made sense to move it to a place that has some importance to him.

[themikefest]

Yeah there were, but the main fight was on Earth. People were still fighting on other worlds too, there's no need for Shepard to be there to fight. Also, if I remember correctly, the last mission is on Earth only because the Citadel was brought there. If the Citadel had stayed where it was, the Crucible would've been brought there and would've have been used there.

Had the asari revealed the artifact earlier, its possible the crucible might've been taken to the Serpent Nebula where the Citadel is located

[Orikon]

I always thought it was a trap. To get the united galactic fleet in one place and crush them eliminating any future resistance. As for why Earth, they knew that Shepard is the one uniting races out there, so it made sense to move it to a place that has some importance to him.

 

Like I said,the majority of the Reaper fleet was stationed there. Moving the Citadel to Earth would give them a highest chance of protecting it....and to crush the galactic armada in one battle.

[Orikon]

Had the asari revealed the artifact earlier, its possible the crucible might've been taken to the Serpent Nebula where the Citadel is located

Or if Shepard defeated Kai Leng. That way TIM would never find out the Citadel is the Catalyst,and the Citadel would've been evacuated.

Just imagine a story branch where you warn the Council,help evacuate the Citadel and visit the Crucible itself to plan everything out with Hackett (and meet everyone that was sent to work on the Crucible through the game) instead of going to Sanctuary and raiding Cronos. How awesome would that be?

[themikefest]

Or if Shepard defeated Kai Leng. That way TIM would never find out the Citadel is the Catalyst,and the Citadel would've been evacuated.

Just imagine a story branch where you warn the Council,help evacuate the Citadel and visit the Crucible itself to plan everything out with Hackett (and meet everyone that was sent to work on the Crucible through the game) instead of going to Sanctuary and raiding Cronos. How awesome would that be?

That's possible. 

 

The only concern I have about the Crucible being taken to the Serpent Nebula, if that were to of happened, how would Shepard get on the Citadel if the arms are closed? She/he used the beam that went from the Citadel to the ground on Earth to get onboard the Citadel.

[Deebo305]

This doesn't really require that muvh thought honestly

1. Shepard is human

2.Shepard is the living being to challenge the Respers since the Protheans

3. Human fleet destroyed Sovereign. Human led crew destroyed Collectors. Thus the Reapers see Humanity not just Shepsrd as a threat so rather than have a prolonged war with them, they strike at Earth to hit humans a decisive mental and physical blow

No big mystery behind it thats just what it is

[Valmar]

I always thought it was a trap. To get the united galactic fleet in one place and crush them eliminating any future resistance. As for why Earth, they knew that Shepard is the one uniting races out there, so it made sense to move it to a place that has some importance to him.

 

Possible. Though, personally, I believe it was part of the harvest. The reapers are built on the citadel and they use the citadel-conduit connection to teleport the bodies up for the harvesting process. Isn't this basically what Shepard says about it when Anderson asks?

 

 

exactly that really annoyed me

I get why the reapers focused on Earth (like in ME2 with human colonies) but that Shepard (especially since my Shep was a colonist)

cares about Earth so much while other worlds are being attacked too (quite heavily by the looks of it) was just very silly

 

Shepard is human, humanity is their planet. The player is human. Earth is our planet. Is it really that complicated? Perhaps you need to look at it less like "Shepard doesn't care about anything but Earth" and more like "Earth is Shepard's priority." Look, Im not happy that the aliens are losing their planets. Its horrible all around. I care more about my world than theirs, though. That doesn't mean I want them to burn but it does mean my focus will be elsewhere.

 

Coincidentally this same argument you make can be used for all the races, can't it? Why care about Earth and the billions of humans on it when the reapers are everywhere? Why do the turians care about their homeworld when earth is on fire? Why do the salarians care about their planet? Why do Asari care about their planet? Don't they know Earth is burning too? Why criticize Shepard for only caring about his planet when all the races are the same here, all looking out for their own. Should Shepard stop caring about earth and focus on Thessia and Palavan when the asari and turians don't care about earth? 

 

The rational that Shepard shouldn't care about Earth because the other worlds are under attack too should apply to all species They don't care about earth or anything else other than their own planet. If Shepard is wrong for it then so too are they. If Shepard should care about all the planets then the aliens should care about earth. Yet if they care about earth you can say "Why earth? Doesn't Thessia and Palavan mean anything to you?"  Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

For me, personally, it wasn't necessary the save-earth agenda itself that bugged me. It was the fact that the agenda SHOULD have been BUILD THE CRUCIBLE. Less "save earth, fight for earth" and more "build the beeping crucible!" I have an issue with the Save Earth agenda but it ISN'T because I don't believe a human should focus and worry more about earth. Its because the crucible, the very project that will SAVE EARTH AND EVERYTHING, is what we need to focus on. We cannot save earth. It's hopeless. Conventional victory is impossibe, fighting the reapers is a losing battle doomed to fail. Our only hope is to build the crucible. The sooner it gets done the sooner we can end this war. Instead of wasting lives and resources fighting a losing battle we should push our chips in on the gambit of the crucible.

 

I understand races caring about defending their own planets. I get that. It's nature. What I don't understand is how everyone suddenly clams up and begins to focus on conventional defense/victory when we should be focused on the crucible. It seems, at least originally, it is only humanity that is willing to accept that this is a losing battle. Humanity are the only ones willing to go all-out with the crucible. All the other races have to wait until they get hammered some more before giving in and going "okay, okay, so maybe we DO need this crucible whatchamacallit..."

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

It's really quite simple why the focus was on Earth.

 

Because Mass Effect 3 was the best place to start.

Because new players wouldn't know about ME1 and ME2, but would totally understand the focus on Earth - this is the LCD Theory - Lowest Common Denominator.

Because humans are special - Anderson was considered for Spectre only 8 years after the First Contact War, Shepard became a Spectre 18 years later, and Humanity got a seat on the Council the same year, while other races had been around for centuries and didn't get squat. Especially the Batarians - they really got hosed by the Council when they gave Earth most of Batarian space to colonize.

Because the player character was human and the player is human and thus would be more inclined to defend Earth from attack than say Thessia.

[Fixers0]

Making humanity the apex of this cycle is plain bad writing, not only did the games fail to establish why the Reapers would even care about an apex race but even worse, there's no reason why humanity would even be considerd the Apex race of this particular cycle, mind you,  the defeat of Sovereign had nothing to do with intrinsic human nature/values, instead we're provided with the notion of  humanity having "genetic diversity" without ever beign explained  what that entailed or what the significance of that would  be.

 

Furthermore, by all in universe measurements humanity can't even be considerd the apex race. Think about the following: Humanity is far from being the strongest military power. Humanity does not have the most political influnce in the galaxy. Humanity does not have the largest economy. Humanity does not own the most advanced technology or best scientific base. Humanity does not have to most pervasive and vibrant culture. And lastly humanity is about the least widespread of all know races, with other races having not only more but far larger colonies. In conclusion there are not meaningfull measurements by which we can call humanity the Apex race, at best humanity is the lower mid tier.

[Excella Gionne]

It's partially the asaris' fault. They did not share their knowledge of the prothean beacon earlier. I felt less pity on them.

[wright1978]

The focus on earth from the get go is crazy, especially as they have a major plot event late on to make earth important anyhow.

It ends up being silly to the extent where the message seems to be the rest of the galaxy is disposable as long as earth is temporaliy liberated.

Think they were probably afraid of confusing new players with a more complex one. Taking back earth is a simple message for marketers to sell.