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[The Baconer]

And that just wouldn't make sense if every slave was worth more than Chevalier's gear.

 

Do we know how much a Chevalier's gear costs?

[dragonflight288]

Do we know how much a Chevalier's gear costs?

 

Orlesian Battle Armor Schematics cost over 3000, so the armor itself for a Chevalier is probably way up past that. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Blood doesn't stimulate an economy

Hush you.

[Eliastion]

Orlesian Battle Armor Schematics cost over 3000, so the armor itself for a Chevalier is probably way up past that. 

If you want to juggle in-game values, you should reach for the game where sovereigns were actually used. And there a full set of Chevalier's armor (boots, armor, gloves) has combined value of 1 sovereign 60 silver.

But, as I said, considering in-game prices/values in any way relevant to the economy of the world is futile. Prices in game are gameplay mechanic and reflect nothing. You remember those bacpacks priced higher than magical weapons/armors, right?

And then there is the sudden shift from a sovereigns to gold pieces - in Origins a gift of 10 silver was enough for elven family to perhaps open a shop, in DA:I suddenly everyone trades for hundreds of gold pieces. And a chantry candle stub is supposedy worth around 30 gold. So... yeah. Let's not get too attached to in-game prices.

[Colonelkillabee]

Pretty sure we were discussing farmers attacking armored knights without hope for victory.

You missed the point of that.

[Colonelkillabee]

Nope, the farmers were introduced only later, do look at this post  
 

Thank you kind sir

[Master Warder Z_]

You missed the point of that.

That you confused suicide with bravery?

No I got that bit.

[Colonelkillabee]

That you confused suicide with bravery?

No I got that bit.

Better than confusing cowardice with Honor.

[Master Warder Z_]

Better than confusing cowardice with Honor.

I'd dare you to name one chevalier who was a coward.

[Colonelkillabee]

I'd dare you to name one chevalier who was a coward.

 

 

You're joking. Surely you jest.

 

Every last one that has ever raped or killed an unarmed elf or other person ever. And if Michel's little initiation ritual is commonplace, then that's every last one of them.

[TheRatPack55]

You're joking. Surely you jest.

 

Every last one that has ever raped or killed an unarmed elf or other person ever. And if Michel's little initiation ritual is commonplace, then that's every last one of them.

 

Meh, sorry to butt in and play a horrible, horrible devil's advocate, but there isn't anything inherently cowardly about hurting those weaker than you, as long as you're just as willing to go against those stronger then you, which, I believe the Chevaliers generally are.

 

Dickish and reprehensible, certainly, but not necessarily cowardly - one'd have to only pick such targets for it to be a proof of cowardice.

[Master Warder Z_]

Chevaliers aren't beacons of virtue and morality but they are warriors who are willing to fight anything and everything.

[Colonelkillabee]

Meh, sorry to butt in and play a horrible, horrible devil's advocate, but there isn't anything inherently cowardly about hurting those weaker than you, as long as you're just as willing to go against those stronger then you, which, I believe the Chevaliers generally are.

 

Dickish and reprehensible, certainly, but not necessarily cowardly - one'd have to only pick such targets for it to be a proof of cowardice.

Well I appreciate your opinion, but I'm gonna have to disagree strongly and say nope, they're cowardly spineless swine, and no argument to the contrary will be even remotely considered by me personally, so long as they still rape and kill innocents within their own territory, and even have to do it drunk initially.

 

 

[Master Warder Z_]

o.o next you'll find out Chevaliers assassinated JFK, it was them hiding on the grassy knoll.

[raging_monkey]

o.o next you'll find out Chevaliers assassinated JFK, it was them hiding on the grassy knoll.

oh course they did * shows sketchy evidence and circumstancual conjecture*

[Master Warder Z_]

In all honesty it likely was a bunch of pissed off bankers

[The Baconer]

But, as I said, considering in-game prices/values in any way relevant to the economy of the world is futile. Prices in game are gameplay mechanic and reflect nothing.

 

The example pricing of slaves that I posted was not an in-game value for a player-purchasable item, it was part of a dialogue.

 

If we were going to in-game figures, Fenris, an extremely skilled fighter dressed up in Lyrium tats, goes for 10 sovereigns.

[Master Warder Z_]

Cheap bastard.

He likely sent more in mercenaries then he ends up coughing up for himm

[raging_monkey]

In all honesty it likely was a bunch of pissed off bankers

i assumed communist extremists... or CIA lol

[Master Warder Z_]

i assumed communist extremists... or CIA lol

o.o Read up on his executive acts, then the federal reserve, and then what happened after his death.

[raging_monkey]

o.o Read up on his executive acts, then the federal reserve, and then what happened after his death.

well its sunday why not

[TheRatPack55]

The example pricing of slaves that I posted was not an in-game value for a player-purchasable item, it was part of a dialogue.

 

If we were going to in-game figures, Fenris, an extremely skilled fighter dressed up in Lyrium tats, goes for 10 sovereigns.

 

for some reason this amuses me greatly

[Ryzaki]

The example pricing of slaves that I posted was not an in-game value for a player-purchasable item, it was part of a dialogue.

 

If we were going to in-game figures, Fenris, an extremely skilled fighter dressed up in Lyrium tats, goes for 10 sovereigns.

 

Oh man that was stupid.

 

I have to say even my evil vile Bloodmage Hawke would've killed Danarius after that on principle alone. Freaking 10 sovereigns is a joke.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

In all honesty it likely was a bunch of pissed off bankers

In all honesty it could have been any number of groups. His actions, from the financial ones like you are referring to, to his actions with the Civil Rights Movement, to his actions with the Cold War, etc made him have a long list of enemies. 

[JJDXB]

Well I appreciate your opinion, but I'm gonna have to disagree strongly and say nope, they're cowardly spineless swine, and no argument to the contrary will be even remotely considered by me personally, so long as they still rape and kill innocents within their own territory, and even have to do it drunk initially.

 

Cowardism would only apply if they were hurting innocents to get to their superiors.  They're not.  It's *good cheap fun*, no different to them than, say, going to the theatre or enjoying fine dining.  It's cowardly only if they don't pick on each other or people who are bigger.  Since we know they fight against their equals, and as soldiers are bound not to fight against their masters, they are not cowardly.  Despicable, yes.  Cowardly, no. 

 

As a side note, the Spartans had a similar tradition whereby a slave was released and boys, in order to become full warriors, ordered to track them down and murder them.  This is, of course, despicable, but the Spartans were hardly a cowardly people.