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[CronoDragoon]

There's really no way they will be able to fill their world with meaningful side quests. The quoted example of New Vegas was possible because New Vegas actually has a pretty small world, and because it focuses on quest design instead of VA budget, cinematics, etc. I expect The Witcher 3 to have plenty of fetch quests.

[Sanunes]

I am pretty sure The Witcher 3 won't be for me because I didn't like the combat in the first two, but they are fine games if you like them.  I just don't understand the "see I am right this person agrees with how I feel about Dragon Age: Inquisition and everyone who disagrees was bought by EA" type of comments.  I won't say The Witcher series are bad games, they just aren't for me.

 

CDPR has done things with their games I don't like from the "sex cards" in the first one (purely optional content, but its since its there I am forced to play it like the side quests in Inquisition) or how alchemy worked in the second one when you were forced to save and reload if you forgot to use one before combat.

 

Heck BioWare got a lot of complaints about the side quests in Mass Effect 3 when people "had to go back to the Citadel to turn in quests" because "they were pointless fetch quests and being forced to go back for each one just padded the game", so now they removed those return to camp aspects and are criticized because they aren't forced to go back to the main camp.

 

Every game has its flaws and for me Inquisition's was being backwards compatible with the 360/PS3 because my speculation is that some things needed to be cut and/or modified so it would work on the lower end platforms, which is something The Witcher 3 won't have to deal with.

[line_genrou]

Bolding mine.

 

Melodramatic. Also highly inaccurate. (FYI EA published both Mass Effect AND Dragon Age Origins)

 ME was already done when EA bought Bioware, DA was about 90% done also.

[Persephone]

Yes, and both of them were almost done when EA took over. They didn't influence the development for those games.

 

Def. not true in the case of DAO. Unless 2 years of dev time were just spent twiddling thumbs.

 

Seriously, the constant EA blaming is getting old. It's also ignorant.

 

(And I don't even like them)

Also, re: "realism" and "middle ages".........yeah, monsters, magic and what not exist, non straight people or women who weren't designed for the male gaze/who aren't used for sexist laughs do not. FYI, not being straight, cis and white wasn't invented by "PC", "SJWs" or the 20/21st century. Ever heard of Sappho? Alexander The Great?

[SnakeCode]

I'm actually surprised there's a rivalry between The Witcher and Dragon Age.

There isn't really. There are tons of fans that love both. You only really see the Witcher vs DA stuff on the BSN. That's because these boards are filled with Tumblrites always banging on about misogyny and objectification and racism and LGBT representation. The Witcher doesn't really cater to those people which is why as somebody else said, they throw mud at it and hope it sticks.

[Persephone]

 ME was already done when EA bought Bioware, DA was about 90% done also.

 

10% of the game needed 2 years of dev time.

 

LOL, ok, you keep believing that.

 

Also, assumptions aren't evidence.

[Knight of Dane]

Anyone: DAI is good, but too many fetch quests.

 

I thought this was universally agreed upon by everyone; fan and hater alike 

[Rawgrim]

Def. not true in the case of DAO. Unless 2 years of dev time were just spent twiddling thumbs.

 

Seriously, the constant EA blaming is getting old. It's also ignorant.

 

(And I don't even like them)

Also, re: "realism" and "middle ages".........yeah, monsters, magic and what not exist, non straight people or women who weren't designed for the male gaze/who aren't used for sexist laughs do not. FYI, not being straight, cis and white wasn't invented by "PC", "SJWs" or the 20/21st century. Ever heard of Sappho? Alexander The Great?

 

Developing Thedas, the cultures, and whatever else that you need to do when creating a brand new fantasy world can take 2 years, yes.

 

Blaming EA is not ignorant. They have run huge franchises into the ground before.  Ignoring history is what is ignorant here.

[line_genrou]

10% of the game needed 2 years of dev time.

 

LOL, ok, you keep believing that.

 

Also, assumptions aren't evidence.

 

Assumption of what? LOL

Bioware was bought in 2007, the year ME was released. Are you saying they developed the game in that one year?

Your crusade for EA is quite amusing.

[Persephone]

There isn't really. There are tons of fans that love both. You only really see the Witcher vs DA stuff on the BSN. That's because these boards are filled with Tumblrites always banging on about misogyny and objectification and racism and LGBT representation. The Witcher doesn't really cater to those people which is why as somebody else said, they throw mud at it and hope it sticks.

 

How DARE people not enjoy racism, misogyny, objectification and lack of inclusivity in their escapism fun. 'cause running into what you can't escape in RL in a game is definitely not something to be legit. upset about.

 

There's no need to "throw mud", these issues are far more REAL than any fetch quest, game mechanic or DLC related rant. 'cause they're..ya know......real.

[Sanunes]

Anyone: DAI is good, but too many fetch quests.

 

I thought this was universally agreed upon by everyone; fan and hater alike 

 

Actually I don't mind the number of fetch quests Inquisition has, its the lack of context and cohesion with the main quests.  If it was structured a little more like Origins when each zone had a theme and all the side quests related to that or the main quest I think they would have been much better. The ones I dislike the most are the Shard quests which feel like a endless grind and completely unrelated to the game. Another example would be in the Emerald Graves when you found the body of a person that died and the entire quest was you looking for the spot where they fell from.

[Rawgrim]

10% of the game needed 2 years of dev time.

 

LOL, ok, you keep believing that.

 

Also, assumptions aren't evidence.

 

Marketing takes time too.

[SnakeCode]

Honestly I zone out as soon as someone mentions the "male gaze" that's when you know someone's been listening to too much Sarkeesian.

[SnakeCode]

How DARE people not enjoy racism, misogyny, objectification and lack of inclusivity in their escapism fun. 'cause running into what you can't escape in RL in a game is definitely not something to be legit. upset about.
 
There's no need to "throw mud", these issues are far more REAL than any fetch quest, game mechanic or DLC related rant. 'cause they're..ya know......real.

Yes they're real. Games often reflect reality. Your point?

[Persephone]

Developing Thedas, the cultures, and whatever else that you need to do when creating a brand new fantasy world can take 2 years, yes.

 

Blaming EA is not ignorant. They have run huge franchises into the ground before.  Ignoring history is what is ignorant here.

 

Can and did aren't the same thing. Again, no evidence for what was done in those 2 years.

 

Again, I really don't like them myself, but yes, it is ignorant because there is very little evidence that EA ever did half of the things they're supposed to have done. Are they a greedy, money mongering cooperation? Yah. But developers/studios usually run themselves into the ground. But this isn't the case here.

[mindw0rk]

There's really no way they will be able to fill their world with meaningful side quests. The quoted example of New Vegas was possible because New Vegas actually has a pretty small world, and because it focuses on quest design instead of VA budget, cinematics, etc. I expect The Witcher 3 to have plenty of fetch quests.

 

When team is really passinate and talented, everything is possible. 

 

 

Anyone: DAI is good, but too many fetch quests.

 

I thought this was universally agreed upon by everyone; fan and hater alike  

 

 

Nah. Tons of people consider DAI less then mediocre game. 

[line_genrou]

Can and did aren't the same thing. Again, no evidence for what was done in those 2 years.

 

Again, I really don't like them myself, but yes, it is ignorant because there is very little evidence that EA ever did half of the things they're supposed to have done. Are they a greedy, money mongering cooperation? Yah. But developers/studios usually run themselves into the ground. But this isn't the case here.

You must be EA's favorite customer. Will they give you DLCs for free?

[Persephone]

Assumption of what? LOL

Bioware was bought in 2007, the year ME was released. Are you saying they developed the game in that one year?

Your crusade for EA is quite amusing.

 

Assumption of how involved a publisher is in a game's development. For the "good" games they cannot have been involved AT ALL and for the "bad" ones they are 100% to blame.

 

I don't give a damn about EA, I no stake in their race. But what does amuse me is how you lot only deal in absolutes and nothing in between. It's a child's logic.

[Lebanese Dude]

*snip*

 

Perhaps you need to sit down. I could feel your hyperventilation all the way here. 

I was gonna post a reply but I fear for your health. 

 

When you're ready and capable of holding a conversation we'll talk ok? PM me and I'll post it.
 

Take care.

[Persephone]

You must be EA's favorite customer. Will they give you DLCs for free?

I just called them greedy and money mongering, yeah, that'll net me ALL THE DLC.

 

Also, failed attempt at sarcasm failed at being sarcastic. Honestly, are childish jibes like this your only argument?

[SnakeCode]

You must be EA's favorite customer. Will they give you DLCs for free?

We're talking about EA here. Not CDPR.

[abisha]

hmm never say something about thing's that not been released yet.

 

talking about witcher III is as worthless als talking about Dragon age VI.

[line_genrou]

I heard that if you are banned on the forums you lose your games on your Origin account, I don't know if this is still happening

so I'm just gonna end this here. I don't wanna lose the games I paid for

[SmilesJA]

There isn't really. There are tons of fans that love both. You only really see the Witcher vs DA stuff on the BSN. That's because these boards are filled with Tumblrites always banging on about misogyny and objectification and racism and LGBT representation. The Witcher doesn't really cater to those people which is why as somebody else said, they throw mud at it and hope it sticks.

 

I've seen some shots fired at Dragon Age from Witcher fans as well.