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[Mike_Hawthorne]

Hi

 

I loved The Witcher 1, but for some reason that I can't even remember now, I never got to the end of W2.

Maybe I should reinstall in and try again, but I will buy the Witcher 3 and hope that's it's as much fun as the first one.

 

As for DRI, yes there are too many fetch quests, and the main story is too simplistic and short.

 

There should have be a bunch of questline stories that led to the final and that contributed to the story.

 

And lets come up with something besides the weird guy wants to be a god but just can't quite get it together storyline we've seen a zillion times.

 

I'm just starting the game to play it through again and I'm dreading all the collecting but I'll still do it, the game is a lot of fun and that's the important part.

 

Mike

[CronoDragoon]

When team is really passinate and talented, everything is possible. 

 

No, it's not.

[abisha]

I heard that if you are banned on the forums you lose your games on your Origin account, I don't know if this is still happening

so I'm just gonna end this here. I don't wanna lose the games I paid for

 

ahh that's very unlikely that's stealing.

[line_genrou]

ahh that's very unlikely that's stealing.

 

search it up

[SnakeCode]

I've seen some shots fired at Dragon Age from Witcher fans as well.

Yeah so have I but I only really ever see TW vs DA stuff regularly on here. I think it's because they're a lot more similar than they are different. Some that don't want to like one of them maybe feel insecure that the other may do certain things better than the one they like.

[Andxel]

Strange they'd say that. I'm playing The Witcher 1 these days, and the game isn't without fetch quests itself.

Besides, DAI isn't as bad as DA2.

[Zeroth Angel]

search it up

 

 

ahh that's very unlikely that's stealing.

That only happened back in the DA2 days.

 

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http://www.eurogamer...-locks-out-daii

[Persephone]

Yes they're real. Games often reflect reality. Your point?

 

My point is that it's not necessary to drag everything that's hurtful and oppressive into escapism entertainment? All the time? If the ratio were more fairly balanced, I wouldn't mind so much.

[abisha]

search it up

 

don't have to, my country laws are very specific about this.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

There isn't really. There are tons of fans that love both. You only really see the Witcher vs DA stuff on the BSN. That's because these boards are filled with Tumblrites always banging on about misogyny and objectification and racism and LGBT representation. The Witcher doesn't really cater to those people which is why as somebody else said, they throw mud at it and hope it sticks.

 

This. 

 

So. much. this.

 

It is a lot like Marvel vs DC quite frankly. LOL. 

 

But I will say that I like Witcher more than DA, especially these days. Why ?

 

The Witcher franchise is a lot like the Game of Thrones. By this I mean The Witcher makes no excuses about what it is. It does not pretend to cater to anyone, it does not push any agenda of any sort and most importantly, it adheres to its niche. CDPR does not give much of a damn if specific groups are offended by things in their game in the same way George R. R. Martin does not really give much of a f**k if people get offended by the incest, violence and what have you that is in his book. There is no inclusivity drive of any sort, no talk about catering to one demographic because sexism, representation, etc. CDPR just makes their game and that's it. No social justice nonsense. 

 

Bioware is not like this. Not even remotely. They neutered, diluted and dumbed down the dark and grit that was in Dragon Age Origins to the generic fantasy that is Dragon Age Inquisition. They do not stick to their niche and instead just copy and past features from other game franchises. They try this balancing act, trying to cater to everyone which ultimately fails. I mean, what happened to desire demons ? Or brothels ? Or equal romance content ? Or tactical combat ? Or things such as sexism in Qunari culture which was conveniently whitewashed away ? 

 

As for the fetch quests, it was poorly done in DAI. Bioware decided to copy Skyrim's approach to side quests and this ultimately fails because Skyrim is a sandbox RPG, not a tight story driven RPG. This "fetch X amount of meat" is so similar to "fetch X amount of atronach salts and deathbells". They decided to flood the game with pointless side quests while relegating lore to minor quests which are either difficult to notice or takes place on the War Table, which again is very reminiscent of how Skyrim does it with their scattering of books and side quests in the remote corner of the world somewhere. 

 

Bottom line, the side quests in DAI are the way they are because Bioware lost touch with their niche. They forgot what Dragon Age as a franchise is and instead just decided to blatantly implement features from other popular but dissimilar games (that whole scanning crap ? Taken right out from Witcher 2 and many hated it in Witcher 2) because profit$$$....

[SnakeCode]

My point is that it's not necessary to drag everything that's hurtful and oppressive into escapism entertainment? All the time? If the ratio were more fairly balanced, I wouldn't mind so much.

Nothing made in videogames is necessary. The game doesn't force you to be racist/sexist etc so I'm not seeing a problem. You're often the one fighting against these issues.

Problems arise when people who find things hurtful and offensive try to actively get things removed from future games. Censoring artisitic freedom and limiting those who would have enjoyed that game. Whatever happened to people just playing the games they like and ignoring those they don't?

[Lebanese Dude]

 

They forgot what Dragon Age as a franchise is and instead just decided to blatantly implement features from other popular but dissimilar games (that whole scanning crap ? Taken right out from Witcher 2 and many hated it in Witcher 2) because profit$$$....

 

Not that I'm ignoring your entire post, but I'm going to zero in on this particular part because it sums up your intent.

 

Did you ever stop to think why they implemented the search feature before chalking it up to copying?

Did you think that perhaps they did it in order to avoid having highlighted items at all times taking away from the exploration aspect?

 

Would you notice the environment if you saw "Elfroot" just hovering all over the place? Perhaps it was to reduce clutter?

 

Alternatively, perhaps scanning was the only method that wouldn't cause problems in the engine?

 

Or perhaps you're right and they decided to create a search system similar to The Witcher's because they liked it.

 

You should ask yourself these questions before making a deduction that sums up to "Profit". That's obviously what everyone ultimately goes for. 

[pinkjellybeans]

. I still dont understand why pepole like you are here really, "I hate DAI so thats why I should post 374738388 threads about it" if you hate it then go. Go and wait to the Witcher 3. Oh and btw, somone who hates somthing usually dont have his forum pic as that, its like I will go and say I hate Katy Perry and have tons of shirts of her and a lot of pics of her in my room.

 

If you would stop to think about this for a second before going "lolz haters" you would come to the conclusion that we actually love DA very much and we're sad/angry/disappointed because DAI doesn't feel like a DA game where story, characters and tactical combat are supposed to be the main focus. Instead they wanted to create Skyrim 2.0 (and failed miserably), because it's trendy. Maybe we make 541584251 threads because we want future DA games to be better and/or go back to its origins.

 

There's loving something, but being able to point out its flaws, and then there's complete fanboyism. 

[Shelidon]

can you tell what you get for collecting 30 Bottle of  Thedus?

You get drunk?

[llandwynwyn]

The problem isn't that it has too many fetch quests, DAO was like that as well, but that they were uninspired, and the game has far too few sidequests and those were linear.

 

abt TW3, I thought about buying it (on Origin because it cheaper there!) but gave up on the idea because I really couldn't care less about what's going to happen and gameplay is worse than DAI.

[Lebanese Dude]

Nothing made in videogames is necessary. The game doesn't force you to be racist/sexist etc so I'm not seeing a problem. You're often the one fighting against these issues.

Problems arise when people who find things hurtful and offensive try to actively get things removed from future games. Censoring artisitic freedom and limiting those who would have enjoyed that game. Whatever happened to people just playing the games they like and ignoring those they don't?

 

One can understand that a video game series remain consistent towards its target audience in general though.

 

Clearly BioWare games have never been ones to approach incredibly sensitive topics in a negative manner because that's just not their style and fans have come to expect this.

[Draining Dragon]

My point is that it's not necessary to drag everything that's hurtful and oppressive into escapism entertainment? All the time? If the ratio were more fairly balanced, I wouldn't mind so much.

Out of curiosity, are you also opposed to violence and swearing in video games?

[SmilesJA]

There's loving something, but being able to point out its flaws, and then there's complete fanboyism. 

 

And that same time there's DAI "WORST GAME EVERZ HOW DARE YOU CATER TO THE CASUALS BIOWARE IS DEAD!!!!!"

[mopotter]

Interesting. Well, admittedly not really. I am playing Inquisition, not Witcher.

  Me too.  

 

Have no interest in any of the Witcher games.  Cyberpunk 2077 however looks interesting to me, maybe.

[AlanC9]

I mean, what happened to desire demons ? Or brothels ? Or equal romance content ? Or tactical combat ? Or things such as sexism in Qunari culture which was conveniently whitewashed away ?

How did "equal romance content" get into that list?

I'm also not clear what the big deal about desire demons is. They're just a generic fantasy thing themselves.

[Lebanese Dude]

How did "equal romance content" get into that list?

I'm also not clear what the big deal about desire demons is. They're just a generic fantasy thing themselves.

 

I think the implication was that straight female characters got more romance content than straight male characters, which in itself implies that the poster thinks that this was done to appease straight female gamers.

[SnakeCode]

One can understand that a video game series remain consistent towards its target audience in general though.
 
Clearly BioWare games have never been ones to approach incredibly sensitive topics in a negative manner because that's just not their style and fans have come to expect this.

I totally agree, and I wouldn't expect Bioware to change that. Same with The Witcher, to adhere to those that want to censor them would take away from the very fabric of the game.

It would be like Bioware removing LGBT options because of people complaining about Anders. It would stop Bioware from doing what makes them Bioware.

[Lebanese Dude]

And that same time there's DAI "WORST GAME EVERZ HOW DARE YOU CATER TO THE CASUALS BIOWARE IS DEAD!!!!!"

 

It took me 2 months and six warning points to realize that I should just avoid attempting to have a rational conversation with someone who starts the post with mentions of fanboys and biodrones. It's probably just going to end up being circular. 

The side-effect is that it makes them think they've won and reinforces their position. It's a lose-lose situation. T_T

[Persephone]

Out of curiosity, are you also opposed to violence and swearing in video games?

 

Violence is one heck of a huge umbrella but I do prefer stories that offer non violent means to solve a quest/conflict here & there. (The Witcher Series is actually very good at that)

 

As for swearing, nope, got no problem with that.

 

Tbh? I don't argue for things being removed, I want representation, inclusivity. Realism does not make these things impossible. And it need not always be horrid (Like Lesbomancy, Branka & Marjorlaine in DAO etc.), ya know?