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[Lebanese Dude]

 

Like Lesbomancy

 

What? Lol

[Persephone]

I totally agree, and I wouldn't expect Bioware to change that. Same with The Witcher, to adhere to those that want to censor them would take away from the very fabric of the game.

It would be like Bioware removing LGBT options because of people complaining about Anders. It would stop Bioware from doing what makes them Bioware.

 

But censorship wasn't my point? How about ADDING some positive representation/inclusivity to balance things out? I mean, non straight ppl. clearly exist in the Witcher World for example, why must a sexist punchline be the only time this is shown?

[pinkjellybeans]

The last two months have taught me that I should just avoid attempting to have a rational conversation with someone who starts the post with mentions of fanboys and biodrones.

 

It took me 6 warning points.

 

Right, because fanboyism doesn't exist. I personally don't even like that word, but it annoys me when people go "omg haterz go away" just because we're voicing our disappointment with a game from a franchise that we actually love.

[Persephone]

What? Lol

One of The Witcher 2's most abysmal jokes, that. (Lesbomancy, that is)

[Vortex13]

I have never played the Witcher games before, I have heard about them but never had the chance to play them.

 

 

Does anyone who has played them know if the various fantasy creatures are actually characters in the setting instead of mindless monsters? Is Geralt able to talk to and reason with creatures like a Werewolf or Troll, etc. instead of just strait up killing them?

 

 

Because that was my biggest disappointment in DA:I, non of the creatures you encountered were intelligent beings with their own motivations and goals, just mindless monsters to kill. This was a letdown for me when compared to DA:O/DA:A wherein you could interact with Golems, Slyvans, Werewolves, Spirits/Demons, even Darkspawn if you wanted to, even going so far as to recruit some of those creatures as allies to your cause.

[9TailsFox]

What? Lol

[SnakeCode]

I have never played the Witcher games before, I have heard about them but never had the chance to play them.


Does anyone who has played them know if the various fantasy creatures are actually characters in the setting instead of mindless monsters? Is Geralt able to talk to and reason with creatures like a Werewolf or Troll, etc. instead of just strait up killing them?


Because that was my biggest disappointment in DA:I, non of the creatures you encountered were intelligent beings with their own motivations and goals, just mindless monsters to kill. This was a letdown for me when compared to DA:O/DA:A wherein you could interact with Golems, Slyvans, Werewolves, Spirits/Demons, even Darkspawn if you wanted to, even going so far as to recruit some of those creatures as allies to your cause.

In TW2 you can converse with an alcoholic troll (and a bickering troll couple later on) who you need to convince to repair a bridge. These encounters are rare but do happen. It depends on how intelligent the creatures are. There's also Johnny in TW3.

[Lebanese Dude]

Right, because fanboyism doesn't exist. I personally don't even like that word, but it annoys me when people go "omg haterz go away" just because we're voicing our disappointment with a game from a franchise that we actually love.

 

People have a right to be disappointed.

 

What's irritating is people voicing their disappointment at every chance they get.

[AlanC9]

Because that was my biggest disappointment in DA:I, non of the creatures you encountered were intelligent beings with their own motivations and goals, just mindless monsters to kill. This was a letdown for me when compared to DA:O/DA:A wherein you could interact with Golems, Slyvans, Werewolves, Spirits/Demons, even Darkspawn if you wanted to, even going so far as to recruit some of those creatures as allies to your cause.

Well, you could interact with some of them. The vast majority of sylvans, golems, spirits, and darwspawn are just killbots. Witcher monsters are about the same. A few are intelligent, most aren't.

[konjusina]

The Witcher 3 is going to give you the same type of fetch quests that DAI gave you. And 40-50 hours of that 100 hours will be fetch quests. I'm excited for the game, but my expectations are realistic. They are already going to get $54 out of me. But I'm not gonna drink their Kool-aid.

 

Shows you have never played Witcher. Every one of the quests in the game is complete opposite of fetch and has deep story, involvement and complexity. I Remember a single quest in Witcher 2 had more story and depth then the entire DA:I plot line.

[9TailsFox]

I have never played the Witcher games before, I have heard about them but never had the chance to play them.

 

 

Does anyone who has played them know if the various fantasy creatures are actually characters in the setting instead of mindless monsters? Is Geralt able to talk to and reason with creatures like a Werewolf or Troll, etc. instead of just strait up killing them?

 

 

Because that was my biggest disappointment in DA:I, non of the creatures you encountered were intelligent beings with their own motivations and goals, just mindless monsters to kill. This was a letdown for me when compared to DA:O/DA:A wherein you could interact with Golems, Slyvans, Werewolves, Spirits/Demons, even Darkspawn if you wanted to, even going so far as to recruit some of those creatures as allies to your cause.

Werewolf and Troll. Are "intelligent" witcher 1 have werewolf batman. Dragon are smart as humans or smarter. Succubus was false accused of crime  . Drowners are mindles zombi. Vampires some mindless some few higher vampires smart. So it depends on monster. In witcher 3 sexy naked women vs demon tree, trust demon tree

[AlanC9]

Shows you have never played Witcher. Every one of the quests in the game is complete opposite of fetch and has deep story, involvement and complexity. I Remember a single quest in Witcher 2 had more story and depth then the entire DA:I plot line.

Might he have stopped with TW1? That game had a boatload of fetch quests.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Shows you have never played Witcher. Every one of the quests in the game is complete opposite of fetch and has deep story, involvement and complexity. I Remember a single quest in Witcher 2 had more story and depth then the entire DA:I plot line.

He was talking about the third one specifically, which is the first open-world Witcher game. I personally doubt it will have the same amount of fetch quests as DA but it's a valid concern nevertheless.

[nici2412]

I have never played the Witcher games before, I have heard about them but never had the chance to play them.

 

 

Does anyone who has played them know if the various fantasy creatures are actually characters in the setting instead of mindless monsters? Is Geralt able to talk to and reason with creatures like a Werewolf or Troll, etc. instead of just strait up killing them?

 

 

Because that was my biggest disappointment in DA:I, non of the creatures you encountered were intelligent beings with their own motivations and goals, just mindless monsters to kill. This was a letdown for me when compared to DA:O/DA:A wherein you could interact with Golems, Slyvans, Werewolves, Spirits/Demons, even Darkspawn if you wanted to, even going so far as to recruit some of those creatures as allies to your cause.

There are several trolls in the game you can talk to and decide if you help or kill them.

And there is a succubus with a very interesting quest

[Persephone]

Shows you have never played Witcher. Every one of the quests in the game is complete opposite of fetch and has deep story, involvement and complexity. I Remember a single quest in Witcher 2 had more story and depth then the entire DA:I plot line.

 

LMAO, even the one where you escort someone home and the reward is to coerce them into sleeping with you?

 

Oooooook.

 

Seriously?

[Lebanese Dude]

This forum is full of people that pretend that they played Witcher. WTH people!?

 

 

Well I played both The Witcher 1 and 2 and got bored pretty quickly. The game just didn't stick with me. Perhaps it was the combat?

 

Maybe I played them at the wrong time as I was swamped with work and preferred replaying DA, ME, and WoW.

 

I'll give TW3 a go and if I like it I'll try playing 1 and 2 again.

[Melca36]

I'd rather have the fetch quests in Inquisition than the insipidly stupid ones that were in DA2.

 

Sure there may have been too many of them....but they had more freaking relevance to the game than DA2s. Those were ridiculous and stupid.

 

And I got news for you....once you know your way around the game...they do NOT take long to do.  I did enough to get all of the agents that were in the Hinterlands.  THATS ALL YOU NEED TO DO.

 

Can people just admit they are lazy now?  Please.

[Herr Uhl]

Might he have stopped with TW1? That game had a boatload of fetch quests.

 

It was also closer to what they're saying Witcher 3 will be in length. I'm expecting there to be a fair amount of them, seeing as you're a monster hunter and all.

 

Ain't nothing wrong with a few fetch quests though.

[pinkjellybeans]

People have a right to be disappointed. What's irritating is people voicing their disappointment at every chance they get. 

 

So basically we can't voice our disappointment more than once on different threads because it will "irritate" the people that are happy with the game? If you don't want to read about it, just ignore the threads. Simple as that. The title obviously implies that it's a thread where people think DAI has too many fetch quests. It's fine if you leave your comment saying you don't agree but we can't leave ours saying we agree? Maybe there are too many threads of people voicing their disappointment because this game disappointed a lot of people.

[Melca36]

Well I played both The Witcher 1 and 2 and got bored a few hours in. The game just didn't stick with mne.

 

Perhaps I played them at the wrong time as I was swamped with work. I should try them again now that I have a bit more free time on my hands.

 

 

I played both and they are fun but they are not the perfect flawless games they are made out to be.   I am looking forward to the moment when the Witcher Developers eventually ****** off and disappoint their fandom because it will happen eventually. And when the moment comes its going to be glorious.

[Vortex13]

Well, you could interact with some of them. The vast majority of sylvans, golems, spirits, and darwspawn are just killbots. Witcher monsters are about the same. A few are intelligent, most aren't.

 

True, but at least there was some nuance and variety to the world. Having the player encounter the Grand Oak or the Messenger was a nice twist, and helped add more life to the world.

 

Werewolf and Troll. Are "intelligent". Dragon are smart as humans or smarter. Succubus was false accused of crime  . Drowners are mindles zombi. Vampires some mindless some few higher vampires smart. So it depends on monster. In witcher 3 sexy naked women vs demon tree, trust demon tree

 

 

Sounds interesting. I like it when the setting (sci-fi or fantasy) shows that its not just a human/asari/turian or human/elf/dwarf world with an infestation of non-human monsters, but a place where we are just a small part of a larger universe.

[Melca36]

So basically we can't voice our disappointment more than once on different threads because it will "irritate" the people that are happy with the game? If you don't want to read about it, just ignore the threads. Simple as that. The title obviously implies that it's a thread where people think DAI has too many fetch quests. It's fine if you leave your comment saying you don't agree but we don't have the right to leave ours saying we agree? Maybe there are too many threads of people voicing their disappointment because this game disappointed a lot of people.

 

 

There isn't as many as you assume. Inquisition takes as long as Origins took to play and as I stated in another post...you can do enough to get all of the agents in the Hinterlands. YOU DONT HAVE TO DO THEM ALL.

 

It all goes down to laziness.

[Farangbaa]

Out of curiosity, are you also opposed to violence and swearing in video games?

I'm going to butt in here, if you don't mind.

I'm not against violence and swearing. I am totally opposed to violence and swearing if you're going to show on screen decapitations and use violence as a means to win (aka almost every game known to man) but at the same time are going to act like sex is a super bad and evil.

Also known as ME3, where killing things is glorifed, but women wear a bra in the shower.

Because lets be honest here: nearly everyone has sex, almost no one kills people. If anything should be censored here, it's the killing, not the sex.

[Melca36]

LMAO, even the one where you escort someone home and the reward is to coerce them into sleeping with you?

 

Oooooook.

 

Seriously?

 

 

Just wait until the WItcher developers disappoint their fan base. The time will come eventually as it does for all game developers.  Its going to be so much fun to see the shrine tarnished.

[Lebanese Dude]

So basically we can't voice our disappointment more than once on different threads because it will "irritate" the people that are happy with the game? If you don't want to read about it, just ignore the threads. Simple as that. The title obviously implies that it's a thread where people think DAI has too many fetch quests. It's fine if you leave your comment saying you don't agree but we don't have the right to leave ours saying we agree? Maybe there are too many threads of people voicing their disappointment because this game disappointed a lot of people.

 

Sorry if I was being vague. What's irritating is people that voice their disappointment at every chance they get without giving constructive criticism and resorting to hyperbolic and irrational arguments to justify their point, then refusing to have a respectful dialogue with those who disagree.