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The Witcher 3 Dev: DAI Is Good, But Too Many Fetch Quests


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I know actually. I started reading the books right after I played the first game when it was released.

I still however stand by my preference of DAI companions because Triss, Yennefer, Dandelion, Zoltan...all these companions have a very fixed and defined back story and there's not much Geralt can do in the games to move them from their own respective POVs. They don't really 'follow' Geralt. Nor does their personality develop over the length of the game.

BW's companions though, despite their back stories develop along with the player character. I find that a lot more engaging. Which is also one of the reasons I prefer Cassandra as a companion compared to Solas.

 

Edit: Also one of the reasons I preferred DA games was because the overall fantasy setting was more appealing somehow. Thedas felt and still feels better than the 'Witcher' world. The latter is a lot grimmer, grittier and dirtier. I guess and that's not really my cup of tea.

 

If you look at characters i seriously like Dragon Age ones, they are all well defined but not fully developed yet, you can see their growth from start to end of the game, and you get to connect to those shiny/dirty pixels.
To be honest, i don't really like Geralt, but he is similar to Hawke in that regard just you can flush his personality more, tough people say he is defined and blablabla, if you actually played game more then once you can see that he is more Inquisitor then Hawke.
Also, being Slavic myself, seeing how Slavic mythology influenced Witcher world, culture that resembles one that developed in middle ages in central europe and even a little authenticity that came with using glagolitic alphabet, just makes Witchers continent more appealing then Thedas.

 

About Witcher forums and Bioware topics there. On that forum there is as much Bioware fans as Witcher fans here and opening threads about how Witcher is better then Dragon Age or vice versa ends in war, so moderators just crush those kind of topics real fast so you don't see that very much.



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He can say whatever he wants. I, for one, wouldn't touch The Witcher franchise with a ten-foot pole.

Have you checked W3's latest 18min demo? Game looks sexy as hell man. :D

 

 


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Funny too since previews of TW3 mention a quest board loaded with...fetch quests.

I'll never understand the disdain gor the fetch. It is what it is and in the end most things boil down to fetch or kill. I means the urn of sacred ashes is a long fetch quest to get a magical MacGuffin.

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The problem is, I pay 60e for the game. I want to play through everything in the game. For my own peril as DAI has shown. Less quest more content would have worked wonders in this time.

well, even if you take the fetch quests out of question, DAI is still good as in money/content, since we see so many games that sell for the same price and you complete 100% in 20 hours or less. 

But i agree, it should have more content that has meaning, i'm at a point in the game where i feel there is nothing more to do, even with so many quests in my log. I'll probably uninstall soon, at least until they fix the banter glitches, doing these quests with no banter is a chore. 



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Have you checked W3's latest 18min demo? Game looks sexy as hell man. :D


Love the look, the art style. The story, the characters....but I can't play it because that friggin Assassin's Creed light timing combat is nine kinds of suck.

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Love the look, the art style. The story, the characters....but I can't play it because that friggin Assassin's Creed light timing combat is nine kinds of suck.

Combat is nothing like AC...It's much more involved and has more depth....


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Pointless thread.

Correct place is Lobby/Off Topic.


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Combat is nothing like AC...It's much more involved and has more depth....


You can cast spells, beyond that it is a timing counter system call it AC or Arkham, it is basically the same thing. It isn't any good and for all the action RPG hate on these board it is highly actiony and very twitch oriented.

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Just my opinion:

DA:O - awesome

Witcher 1 - hated it

DA:2 - hated it

Witcher 2 - awesome (just finished xbox version) - almost every quest had interesting choices or surprising outcomes

DA:I - can't bring myself to finish it just yet (too much fetching and jumping)

Witcher 3 - pre-ordered and hyped



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Funny too since previews of TW3 mention a quest board loaded with...fetch quests.

I'll never understand the disdain gor the fetch. It is what it is and in the end most things boil down to fetch or kill. I means the urn of sacred ashes is a long fetch quest to get a magical MacGuffin.

Fetch quests are in every RPG game but DAI has way too many pointless ones....If you want to give me fetch quest then give me kill X monster quest than collect 10  useless items quest...



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Pointless thread.

Correct place is Lobby/Off Topic.

Oh k, Mods please move it to off-topic section...



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Pleased to read that, given that I feel exactly the same way about Inquisition and have concerns about the open worldliness of The Wild Hunt.



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They say the Witcher 3 is going to be over 100 hundred hours aswell. I'm dying to see how much THAT will be fetch quests. 



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They say the Witcher 3 is going to be over 100 hundred hours aswell. I'm dying to see how much THAT will be fetch quests. 

Fetch quests are in every RPG game but DAI has way too many pointless ones....If you want to give me fetch quest then give me kill X monster quest than collect 10  useless items quest...

 



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Have you checked W3's latest 18min demo? Game looks sexy as hell man. :D

 

 

I'm looking at a 37 minute gameplay video and it looks pretty good and the combat looks very decent, but it also says "work in progress" superimposed on the top so obviously something could get cut or whatever.



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It's odd. CDPR devs have always been complementary about Bioware titles, far more so than Bioware devs have been about TW games at least.This is tbe first time I've heard any real criticism from them. I'm surprised this thread is not already filled with hate for TW games. Bringing them up here usually doesn't go down well.

As a big fan of both though, TW3 looks to be the far better game.
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I'm looking at a 37 minute gameplay video and it looks pretty good and the combat looks very decent, but it also says "work in progress" superimposed on the top so obviously something could get cut or whatever.

For you WIP means something will get cut??  For me it means that final game will look and play even better...



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They say the Witcher 3 is going to be over 100 hundred hours aswell. I'm dying to see how much THAT will be fetch quests. 

Fetch quests are in every RPG game but DAI has way too many pointless ones....If you want to give me fetch quest then give me kill X monster quest than collect 10  useless items quest...

 

 

The Witcher 3 is going to give you the same type of fetch quests that DAI gave you. And 40-50 hours of that 100 hours will be fetch quests. I'm excited for the game, but my expectations are realistic. They are already going to get $54 out of me. But I'm not gonna drink their Kool-aid.



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The Witcher 3 is going to give you the same type of fetch quests that DAI gave you. And 40-50 hours of that 100 hours will be fetch quests.

Have you played W3??On what basis you are saying this? Just coz DAI is full of shitty fetch quests that doesn't mean W3 will also have same pointless fetch quests...W2 side quests were quite good..Most of them  were properly written and scripted quests


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For you WIP means something will get cut??  For me it means that final game will look and play even better...

I said could, not will. It could be end up being greatly improved upon what we see, or it could get scaled back for any number of reasons. I have no reason to discount the possibility.



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Have you played W3??  W2 side quests were quite good..All were properly written and scripted quests

I don't have to play it to know that there will be a ton of "Hey, Witcher, could you go to the other end of the map and kill 10 werewolves that have been chomping my sheep?"

 

As for the Witcher 2, It had similar fetch quests. "Hey Witcher, go kill some Harpies and bring me backy 30 harpy feathers."



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They say the Witcher 3 is going to be over 100 hundred hours aswell. I'm dying to see how much THAT will be fetch quests.

Every western rpg has fetch quests. It's how they're implemented that's the differerence between being fun and eye gougingly tedious. With TW it's rarely as simple as 'pick item up, find owner, give to owner' It's more in depth. These games usually make you work to find the items (maybe they've been stolen and stashed away somewhere, maybe a monster has them etc) When you deliver the items there's usually a trade off, you get information about a monster you need to kill, or a character you're looking for. Something useful. Not power+30.
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Every western rpg has fetch quests. It's how they're implemented that's the differerence between being fun and eye gougingly tedious. With TW it's rarely as simple as 'pick item up, find owner, give to owner' It's more in depth. These games usually make you work to find the items (maybe they've been stolen and stashed away somewhere, maybe a monster has them etc) When you deliver the items there's usually a trade off, you get information about a monster you need to kill, or a character you're looking for. Something useful. Not power+30.

I've played the Witcher 2. Some of them were good others were just as tedious as the ones in DAI. I doubt the Witcher 3 has 40 hours of amazing, rich, and thoughtful side quests. I'd like it too, but I'm not getting my hopes up.


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Tried W1 back when it launched and never even reached the city, didn't like much of it except when dialogues took place. Abandoned the game after a few attempts to get back into it. Didn't try W2, the first one was enough. I don't feel comfortable with the game, nothing in it makes me want to go on. I found gameplay a tedious slog tbh compared to BW's games.


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