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Mainly because the Inquisitor has the emotion of a tranquil despite having more options of expressions. The voice actors for both Hawkes were into their performances, leading to a lot of humorous and memorable moments.

 

I disagree.

 

I find that the Warden, without VA, had the most interesting dialogue - calling Alistair a royal ******* and Flemeth an old hag are just a couple of examples of what made the HoF so amusing.



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I disagree.

 

I find that the Warden, without VA, had the most interesting dialogue - calling Alistair a royal ******* and Flemeth an old hag are just a couple of examples of what made the HoF so amusing.

 

I liked the Warden's responses too. But my main complaint with the Inqusitor is that his voice is so bland. If you're going to give your player character a voice, at least tell your actors to emote. It damages immersion if your character sounds like they're reading from a script. At least with the Warden you can make up a voice in your head.


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I liked the Warden's responses too. But my common complaint with the Inqusitor is that his voice is so bland. If you're going to give your player character a voice, at least tell your actors to emote. It damages immersion if your character sounds like they're reading from a script. At least with the Warden you can make up a voice in your head.

agree they had good voice actors but didn't use them right

the Inquisitor had a bland voice no matter which voice you chose


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#129
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My quizzy accepts his duty while trying to tell everyone he is not Andraste's Messenger. Do you really want to play an ineffective protagonist? It is not the closing of rifts that makes you a hero in the eyes of the populace. It is your willingness to be at the tip of the spear that separates you from the other "leaders" in the game.  "Duty is as heavy as a mountain, death as light as a feather."

 

Corpheus is constantly trying to take over the entire world. He would have done better to concentrate his forces and consolidate his effort, but he is no General, nor a practitioner of the military arts.  He is just another Magician with a thyroid. His delusions of grandeur are what gives you the opportunity to win.  The fact that you develop into a credible threat through hard work and focus of effort is the only reason he doesn't wipe the floor with you and your party at the end. If developing your PC doesn't entertain you and winning is not your goal, maybe you're playing the wrong game.

 

As for investing yourself or your regard in a PC, that's the part of the game the you are supposed to provide.  If you can't, you can't.  The writers can only take you so far.  I'm not saying the writing is perfect or even good, in some cases.  I'm saying that, in most cases, the writing is a sufficing solution for the problem domain.

 

Could have some facets of the game's execution been better? Absolutely. But I refuse to give in to shortcomings of that nature, when my imagination can easily close the gap and help in my entertainment.  Being partly responsible for my own enjoyment is not a bad thing, after all.


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Because people complained that Hawke was too extreme and that switching between tones made you seem like a maniac so in Typical BioWare fashion they made the next protagonist the complete opposite: passionless, neutral, indistinct instead of finding a balance.


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As far as comparing the three protagonists goes, I think it really depends on personal playing style. I don't like voiced protagonists much and wouldn't have even tried Inquisition if I hadn't watched someone else play it first . . . It ended up being my favorite of the three games, with my Inquisitor as my favorite protag (and I loved my Warden). But I use my imagination a lot and figure out my character's basic personality and backstory before I play, and then let the game expand on that character. Playing a Dalish elf who romanced Solas resulted in a dynamic character arc for my PC, and gave a nice parallel to the whole Andrastian crisis of faith as my character struggled with one of her own (the end reveal about Solas being the ironic cherry on top). I ended up caring about her a lot.

I liked Hawke, but she never felt like my character the way the warden and inquisitor did. Her backstory and personalities were already predefined. Some people prefer this, but I like role-playing on a deeper level. As for the voicing . . . I used the British female voice in Inquisition, and though I admit she sounds a little robotic when she asks basic questions, I thought she emoted well when it came to major scenes (for example, she did particularly well in the last Solas scene, with possible responses ranging from teary to serene to angry). I liked that the inquisitor wasn't forced into specific personality roles like Hawke.

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I didn't really find the Inquisitor bland. Well when I tried to play a male Inquisitor he delivered some lines kind of flat, I chose the American voice actor. The female Inquisitor I have had no issues with. On my current Joan of Arc total believer Playthrough the Inquisitor has been great. When she told the Templars how she was sent by Andraste to bring them back to the faith I was just thinking this is th beat one so far. Then when she told the people of the Inquisition she was a servant of the faith when being named Inquisitor, just well done again.

I hated the personalities on DA2, some of the stuff Hawke said the companions was just downright mean and you wouldn't know what was coming from the paraphrase. There were points in the game where I was thinking why do these peole even keep following you. Didn't like the more pre defined character. You can make the Inquisitor into a lot of things given the believer or non believer, and different race choices.

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I think the Inquisitor is very similar to the fade in the way Solas described it.    In order to see interesting things in the fade, you have to be interesting.   

 

Pretty much the same for playing the inquisitor.     They are as interesting as the imagination of the player can make them. 


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easily the worst Bioware protagonist for me
Even though there seem to be more dialouge options for the Inquisitor to choose from most are useless since there are very few intersting RP options

We can't even be ruthless/evil (don't tell it wouldn't be realistic because he/she is the leader of this big organization, a freaking dwarf can be the herald of andraste it doesn't get more ridiculous than that), and sarcastic Inquisitor is just not funny

Hell the Warden has more depth even though he has no voice..( and Hawke is of course 10×better)

They decided to do a mix between the Warden and Hawke but failed
also headcanon doesn't count

 

 

You're not playing right. I made Cassandra into a drunk.  I had people leave.   



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I think the Inquisitor is very similar to the fade in the way Solas described it.    In order to see interesting things in the fade, you have to be interesting.   

 

Pretty much the same for playing the inquisitor.     They are as interesting as the imagination of the player can make them. 

And lets not forget the fact that people are just lazy.

 

Its easy to get people to leave.  



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I preferred the Inquisitor over Hawke. Yeah, maybe a bit bland, but Hawke was way over the top in personality. He overstated and overemphasized just about everything I would choose. He would be yelling when I meant to just be calm and polite. I did like the sarcasm though.  The Inquisitor has less default personality but that let me define the character more myself, so I really appreciated it. 


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I think the Inquisitor is very similar to the fade in the way Solas described it. In order to see interesting things in the fade, you have to be interesting.

Pretty much the same for playing the inquisitor. They are as interesting as the imagination of the player can make them.

So the Inquisitor's voice gain more inflection the more interesting you are? Didn't realize EA had finished developing the interesting-meter (patend pending). :P

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<Sighs> Sadly I must agree with a lot of points made here.

 

I am currently back tracking and playing the previous Dragon Age games. The Warden had a lot of options to choose in terms of conversing but he/she was non-speaking. Thus there was no real emotion coming off their face, mostly a blank stare.

 

Then we fast-forward to Hawke in DA2. While the environment was rather poor, the fact that Hawke could have his/her own personality and facial/body expression to follow suit, was well done. While DA2 was not perfect I will say however the emotion Hawke showed when he/she expressed whatever they were saying or doing was a breath of fresh air. I felt as though the developers were finally giving your character “life.”

 

Thus we come to DAI and the developers took a step backwards. I feel as though this is in-between stage from DAO and DA2.

While those around seem to react to whatever they are saying and the environment, your Inquisitor seems to only make small expressions and stand there half the time like mannequin. I’ve even noticed there are times when my Inquisitor tries to make a facial expression it remains stuck like that for the rest of the conversation.

 

I prefer the method from DA2, icons that allow you the opportunity to give your character personality and your character showing it. In DAI, you could pick and choose a sarcastic or an aggressive comment, but even when choosing this, your character is not set to this. Next time your character talks out loud without the need of the wheel, the game does not recognize your aggressive personality or your sarcastic personality.

 

Not to mention I not fond of the advisers not having “approval” or “disapproval” points. Your Inquisitor is important, so are the choices he/she makes. While the advisers may express their dislike about whatever you choose, it is only in that moment. After they go about their business as if nothing happened.  Your advisers are just as important as your character and your companions. Thus whatever you choose should reflect on how they treat you. Being an adviser should not be a “get out of jail free card.” Their approval/disapproval adds to the importance and personality of how they view your Inquisitor.

 

I feel as though the developers were so dazzled by this new game engine and creating these vast detailed environments they neglected a lot-including the lack of personality given to your character and how your advisers view you as The Inquisitor.


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#139
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If you bring yourself to accept your own thoughts as his, you are only going to get pulled out of immersion every once and a while.

 

The middle option is mostly vague at the worst, as far as I experience it, so it could still pass as a reaction I would have. That's not exactly an A+, but on the other hand, I also didn't hate all the over 100 hours I sunk into the game.

 

I do not prefer the Warden like many other, because I prefer voiced protagonists, but because the choices rarely met what I was saying, yet were deadly specific. I mostly used the choices similarly to the dialogue wheel ones, and still made up what he actually said in my head. Plus I prefer to play as a human rogue, and the human noble felt the most disconnected from the entire world by far. Maybe it's just that after 30 years of consuming fantasy pop culture, "Human noble prince avenging dead parents" doesn't cut "background story" anymore.

 

After playing a City Elf female warrior, however, she instantly became my canon Warden. She was female, of a different race, has an incredibly strong background story, and I roleplayed her very differently than my own personality - which made her belong to me & the game world 50/50.

 

Apparently, it's this balance I need, rather than "voices or choices".


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I am one of those who also found the Inquisitor to be somewhat bland as a main character, but aside from writing, for me a huge issue was the VA direction. To take an example from ME, Hale and Meer had almost exactly the same scripts, but took very different approaches to how to play the character and thus made mShep and femShep very different experiences.

 

What I cannot fathom, and I know I've repeated this often, is that how could they look at that experience and feedback, then at the feedback for Hawke, and decide the best method was to have two voice actors per gender and then have both take the exactly same neutral, bland approach to line reading. I mean they were even more neutral than Meer as mShep. When you have a chance to provide to options, why on Earth make them essentially the same, but just with a different accent?


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Trevelyan is bland. f!Lavellan with a Solas romance has surpassed Surana Warden as my favorite DA protagonist, however.

 

The personality pegging in DA2 was bad. I did not like being forced to be dull as a board/ snarky-snide/ total ******. The Inquisitor is allowed to be more nuanced and Alix Wilton Regan's performance especially made the voiced protagonist palatable to me.

 


What I cannot fathom, and I know I've repeated this often, is that how could they look at that experience and feedback, then at the feedback for Hawke, and decide the best method was to have two voice actors per gender and then have both take the exactly same neutral, bland approach to line reading. I mean they were even more neutral than Meer as mShep. When you have a chance to provide to options, why on Earth make them essentially the same, but just with a different accent?

The feedback for Hawke was not positive.



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I liked the Warden's responses too. But my main complaint with the Inqusitor is that his voice is so bland. If you're going to give your player character a voice, at least tell your actors to emote. It damages immersion if your character sounds like they're reading from a script. At least with the Warden you can make up a voice in your head.

I only have one response to this...

 

Maybe" your" inquisitor  blandness is not there fault... :whistle:


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The Inquisitor is the most Generic type of Protagonist. it's no surprise 



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Trevelyan is bland. f!Lavellan with a Solas romance has surpassed Surana Warden as my favorite DA protagonist, however.

 

The personality pegging in DA2 was bad. I did not like being forced to be dull as a board/ snarky-snide/ total ******. The Inquisitor is allowed to be more nuanced and Alix Wilton Regan's performance especially made the voiced protagonist palatable to me.

 

The feedback for Hawke was not positive.

For me sarcastic f!Adaar is a trip. Mine only does it when she is anger or annoyed but it's hilarious.



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The feedback for Hawke was not positive.

 

The feedback for Hawke was complicated, with a lot of people expressing hatred for the character or anything associated with DA2, but also many others kept quoting the character or bringing up memorable exchanges with him/her. The reaction and feedback on Hawke showed that there was an audience that enjoyed that approach.

 

This all comes back to having two choices for the VA as they focused on catering to only one audience with both of them instead of trying to give an option to both audiences. And that feedback on ME and DA2 showed that was an audience that enjoyed the more emotional/reactive choice. If they had directed one of the VAs in that manner, what would those who enjoyed the neutral/subdued approach lost since they still had a VA that took that approach?


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Because people disliked the personality system in DA2, so clearly the consumers wanted their char to have no personality at all!

Well, yeah. We all know that DA2 had no redeeming qualities whatsoever, period.

 

I mean, it did (and the personalities were one of them), but don't let anyone know that it did. Need to keep up appearances.


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Trevelyan is bland.

Your opinion. I enjoyed my Trevelyans as much as my elves and qunaris and dwarves.

 

Its just trendy to hate on anything human at the moment



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The Inquisitor is the most Generic type of Protagonist. it's no surprise 

 

Perhaps they will add more depth in some DLCS.   Perhaps had people NOT whined for multiple races...there would have been more depth.


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Its just trendy to hate on anything human at the moment

I don't know about trendy, it's just my opinion- and naturally that's all that it is.



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Trevelyan is bland.

Yeah, that's like your opinion. Plus, not to bite but AWR english accent really fits a human noble from the Free Marches. Dalish are supposed to be Welsh? (well they didn't all sounded like that in DA:O)