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I started with Sumalee which in hindsight was a bad idea. Quizzy does feel pretty bland with her VA. Alix and the male brit dude are fine though.



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I started with Sumalee which in hindsight was a bad idea. Quizzy does feel pretty bland with her VA. Alix and the male brit dude are fine though.

I thought Alix was pretty amazing. The male Brit voice also pleasantly surprised me when I wasn't expecting much.



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I don't even hate the game but it has serious flaws in my opinion
I bought it so I have every right to criticize it and give feedback sry that I'm not a fanboy

 

the pic is from the time I was hyped for DA:I but you are right its time to change it

Dont you think I have some things I dont like about the game? Dont you think, I think that one or 2 less areas would brought to a better story, I do, but I just dont mention it in e-v-e-r-y p-o-s-t I maaaaakeee. lol 



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They could still have different playable races. I didn't say they couldn't, nor does my last post. I said they could have removed the race-related dialogue to squeeze out a little more depth for everything else.

How is that a good thing? Then you just end up with an elf or dwarf or Qunari who acts like a human and there is no reactivity in the world.
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I started with Sumalee which in hindsight was a bad idea. Quizzy does feel pretty bland with her VA. Alix and the male brit dude are fine though.

I like how she vo'ed the quiz.



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Um, where did people get it into their heads that Hawke was supposed to be the Inquisitor? Did BioWare specifically state that they had intended to make Hawke the leader of a group called the Inquisition? Because I thought the whole purpose of Hawke's story was to be the story of the misconception that someone caught in a bad situation, yet caused the Circles to rebel and have the Templar Order disband, with someone else having the intention of making the aforementioned person the Inquisitor, but can't due to them being missing.

 

I think some people went into Inquisition with the jaded opinion that the player character would be bad, and that their story would be poorly or badly written, because they couldn't appreciate the story or protagonist of the last one. That is never a good idea, because you'll only be disappointed. Keep your hopes low, sure, but don't go into the game thinking it will be bad, because it will only sour your enjoyment of the game. With the Inquisitor, because Hawke was so expressive (some people deny that s/he was ever voiced with much emotion), people went into the game assuming the Inquisitor will be the same.

 

Perhaps the reason people think the PC is bland is because they have no frame of reference for an RPG player character with no set name and appearance, and lines that are straight up one tone of voice or demeanour? I've never played Mass Effect, so I can only assume the dialogue was written with that "paragon/renegade" thing in mind - plus the query/investigate options.



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I started with Sumalee which in hindsight was a bad idea. Quizzy does feel pretty bland with her VA. Alix and the male brit dude are fine though.

 

I also preferred Alix, but it wasn't because I disliked Sumalee. I actually think she's been pretty good in the roles I've heard her in. Rather, I felt with a voice as deep as hers, the subdued and neutral expression came across even more strongly. I think she had been given a chance to emote, she would have done a great job.



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The inquisitor is an NPC, not a PC. Simple as that.

Hawke is an NPC the warden is a PC the Inquisitor is no one of them, actually i do not know what the Inquisitor is maybe a plot device.



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I said this just now: they made Inq's personality less variable for the sake of future games if the Ins should appear as an actual NPC. That way, they could have more freedom in what he's saying without contradicting dialog choices that would assume otherwise.

Like they had this problem with Hawke. His personality was too varied for where Bioware needed him to be.

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Perhaps they will add more depth in some DLCS.   Perhaps had people NOT whined for multiple races...there would have been more depth.

Oh I am so sorry for "whinning for multiple races" but some of us like to play races based on real cultures, unlike mass effect aliens are NOT based on real cultures, btw the Inquisitor for me have enough depht thank you. 



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You know one of my lasting memories of DA:I, playing my Human Male S&S,brit voice VA, romancing Cassandra, get to the scene where he reading her poetry an she takes the book to read then he proceeds to move behind her an start reading in her ear.

 

Now im damn straight an the fooker nearly swept me of my damn feet, way he delivered the lines is just perfect, you feel the passion, hear it, can touch it, now there is more scenes like that if you pick the right dialogue the question is do you?

 

Are alot of lines delivered neutral? damn hell yes, but the Inq is far from boring an even further than being a plank, room was left for the player to "headcanon" and that is exactly what i do, my feelings on the matter are some ppl are prob to used to having a full personality for the pc put to them instead of helping it along, hawke/shepard, an some more are just continuing there "DA:I an everything about it is crap so im bashing it all"

 

Now i got problems with DA:I, same as i got problems with every game i buy an have ever bought, but the PC aint one, now i shut up an go get wet at a poetry scene again :P



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Honestly, any "blandness" on the part of the player character is the fault of the player.


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#188
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It makes the conspiracy against the protag make even more sense.  The idea of an Elf running the Arling, or even being someone they have to defer to, would not be something the aristos would be fans of.

Imho the conspiracy as more sense for a Cousland, imagine all the vipers of Arle Rendon Howe and Loghain still around in search o f Reveange, the HN origin fit the DAO story perfectly at any point.



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I think it's difficult to give the hero a real character while letting people enough freedom to shape him according,to their imagination... it's pretty well done here I think, I was sometimes very moved by my Lavellan, and never felt she was bland, but there are limits - the voice acting and the dialogues won't fit with every kind of character. If I wanted to play a dark and threatening IQ, I think the voices would soften him too much and make him appear a bit bland, yes. Maybe they'll find a way to handle this better next time ? More voices, each with a different character ? Dialogues less neutral ?

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Honestly, any "blandness" on the part of the player character is the fault of the player.

You mean I was hired as the voice director for DAI? Fudge, no wonder they sound so wooden if I missed every single recording session. Hmm wonder if I can still get a paycheck for it even if I did miss every session....


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I blame the lack of options myself. The voice acting is not bad even if it's a bit low on emotion but there are so many cases where we must play Bioware's specific idea on the Inquisitor/Inquisition rather then giving the option of shaping it on our own. I slightly wonder if having two voice actors for each gender had an impact on this since it must have costed a bit to record every player line four times.

At any rate, is there a good reason of all the people we judge we can only have have one or two of them executed? I mean both Florianne and Samson can be exiled, despite being oh so very important but neither can be out right killed for some reason. It's not just the judgments though it's the same when it comes to dealing with the Chantry and the Herald title. We can protest it once in a while but only in private with a few advisers. If the Inquisitor ever tries to actually make a statement to tell people the truth someone will tell her no.

I never felt like a leader as much as a glorified figurehead.

   
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agreed adding different races (especially qunari) was a waste of time and resources
I also think that having two options per gender was not needed

 It would have been better if those two extra VA were given personality, be more semi defined like hawke. The other two could remain neutral and bland for people who like that sort of thing for 'headcannon' reasons. 

I said this just now: they made Inq's personality less variable for the sake of future games if the Ins should appear as an actual NPC. That way, they could have more freedom in what he's saying without contradicting dialog choices that would assume otherwise.
Like they had this problem with Hawke. His personality was too varied for where Bioware needed him to be.

Hawkes personality too varied? Seriously?

Hawke, could come back into the game easier because they were more fixed., and can only be human. As for the inquisitor and warden? Bringing them back in future games, waaaay more problamatic just for cinimatics alone.

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I blame the all the people who bitched relentlessly about Hawke's 'schizophrenic' personality.


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 It's not just the judgments though it's the same when it comes to dealing with the Chantry and the Herald title. We can protest it once in a while but only in private with a few advisers. If the Inquisitor ever tries to actually make a statement to tell people the truth someone will tell her no.

I never felt like a leader as much as a glorified figurehead.

 

This is how some people are when it comes to religion though.  If people witness what they think are miracles and that only divine intervention can be responsible, they'll believe whether you accept your role in it or not.  You're basically saying you want to control peoples' faith.

 

It's no different than a religious person telling someone that God has a plan for them.  Even if that person doesn't believe it, it won't stop the religious person from believing that God has a plan for everyone.



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I blame the all the people who bitched relentlessly about Hawke's 'schizophrenic' personality.

I never quite understood this myself. People want more player agency, but then as a result of having more freedom with the protagonist, we can have more conflicting options and contradictory dialogue. Shepard had this issue. Even the Warden does, because you can go off the rails and go on some kind of roller coaster of benevolent and psychotic evil.



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I never quite understood this myself. People want more player agency, but then as a result of having more freedom with the protagonist, we can have more conflicting options and contradictory dialogue. Shepard had this issue. Even the Warden does, because you can go off the rails and go on some kind of roller coaster of benevolent and psychotic evil.

It's the result of non-trivial autodialogue.

 

Inquisiton's VA is simply more neutral overall with the tone wheels present for situations that warrant a reaction where the non-trivial autodialogue would have been. The American VA's are more neutral than their emotive British counterparts and I think that was the intent in order to convey a proper "feel" for their default races.

 

It's an alternate solution and I almost never felt out of character with my Inquisitor compared to Hawke. On the other hand, I also loved autodialogue when it worked.



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This is how some people are when it comes to religion though.  If people witness what they think are miracles and that only divine intervention can be responsible, they'll believe whether you accept your role in it or not.  You're basically saying you want to control peoples' faith.

 

It's no different than a religious person telling someone that God has a plan for them.  Even if that person doesn't believe it, it won't stop the religious person from believing that God has a plan for everyone.

The people can believe whatever they wish. What I would have liked to have done is to be allowed to state publicly, after becoming the leader, that the Inquisition's official position is that the player is not the Herald of Andraste and also tell them the truth of what happened in the Fade after Adamant. Sadly if the Inquisitor say she want to do that Hawke/Alistair/Loghain/Stroud will protest and later the revered mother as well will stand in the way of us doing so.

There was also never a chance to actually do it, I get that it would cause problems but if we are actually the leader and an Inquisitor who is highly uncomfortable with being a religious icon we should have been able to. A real leader should be able to take a position that people will dislike from time to time. Otherwise we are more like the director of an organisation that belongs to someone else and we are only allowed to lead it. Even Josephine will only 'consider' the Inquisitors opinion on the matter when sending out their official position in Haven.



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The Inky options kinda fit well for the nice guy chars I'm playing so no complaints from me. Surely that is bound to change for future play throughs.

 

Few occasions where I can be and always choose to be controversial are the questions of belief. "You believe in the Maker, don't you?", "Tell them you were sent by Andraste." Etc.

I'm always just: "I don't believe in the Maker, this green thing is just a coincidence."



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I never quite understood this myself. People want more player agency, but then as a result of having more freedom with the protagonist, we can have more conflicting options and contradictory dialogue. Shepard had this issue. Even the Warden does, because you can go off the rails and go on some kind of roller coaster of benevolent and psychotic evil.

It's a tradeoff illustrating yet another example of the fact that you can't please everyone. I'm personally fine with either option, so long as it makes sense and is within a certain range of freedom.



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The inquisitor is my least favourite bioware pc to date.

If the PC is not a premade template like shepard or hawke, it is Always better to mute it. Your imagination puts the right tone in the dialogues. The warden, and every elder scrolls pc, are muted and i could immerse in them a lot more.

Also the inquisitior does sound dull, opinionless, confused, even inadequate. I made a qunari, it sounds like a human child Always asking generic questions. It seems like someone dropped there for no reson, someone that never grasps what's happening and only follows other opinions. It might even fit with story, but it's not fun to play.
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