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arcane warrior is very OP and needs adjusted


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There is no weakness to a proper arcane warrior build. This class can go out and solo an entire perilous match, and come in first place.  Players speed from zone to zone doing massives amounts of melee damage which perpetually powers their barrier effectively making them immortal.  These effects are increased even further with potions and various other equipment.

 

Now that the secret is out, everyone who wants to come in first and play ZERO team work will just build this character and use exclusively. Is this ok with the community or should Bioware make some adjustments?



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Well I like AW, and I play with PUGs who are usually bad and die, so yea I'm cool with it.


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This class can go out and solo an entire perilous match, and come in first place.

 

If you are soloing, won't you always come in first place?

 

Old news, why do we need another thread about how OP Arcane Warrior is?

 

Also, I have yet to have an arcane warrior outscore me when I'm playing archer or ele.  Should we also nerf those classes because they can outscore arcane warriors?

 

Why ask for nerfs on ANY class in a non PVP game?  Is the arcane warrior ruining your gaming experience?  


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Maybe for this weekends challenge I'll successfully join a pug. If I'm really lucky perhaps an AW will be in and carry me to a comm pack.
I'll play a keeper and contribute to the not dieing thing that way.

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This class can go out and solo an entire perilous match, and come in first place.  

 

 

If you are soloing, won't you always come in first place?

 

Whenever I solo with my AW, I keep coming in last place. AW needs a buff.


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If you are soloing, won't you always come in first place?

 

Old news, why do we need another thread about how OP Arcane Warrior is?

 

Also, I have yet to have an arcane warrior outscore me when I'm playing archer or ele.  Should we also nerf those classes because they can outscore arcane warriors?

 

Why ask for nerfs on ANY class in a non PVP game?  Is the arcane warrior ruining your gaming experience?  

 

Yes it does ruin the experience because by the time other players reach the next area, the AW already cleared out that group of enemies.  The AW can run ahead and basically solo the kills without any risk or consequence.  Other classes simply can't keep up because they don't have the speed or the power to match it.

 

Many times the AW won't even bother helping or reviving teamates.  Why bother when you don't need them right?  You can finish the match by yourself in glory and have your name shining alone at the top while everyone just watches.



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it's pretty damn fun for sure, but all the classes so far have their merits I guess. not sure about the stinky Katari though..he will be last



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He's the Kroguard of DAMP.
 

but they don't seem to be doing balance changes this time around.


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it's pretty damn fun for sure, but all the classes so far have their merits I guess. not sure about the stinky Katari though..he will be last

 

When I first started I loved the idea of playing as an archer. I like the idea of using a bow and I wanted to get into that character. Well in this game they are useless, they can really only focus on one enemy at a time, weak dps and cannot take any hits.  You'll be sitting back like a sucker trying to snipe when the AW is clearing out massive mobs of enemies.



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The secret is out? I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but that "secret" has been out for a while.

 

Still, an AW is only op when he's got something to hit so that he can regenerate his barrier. Pit him against ranged enemies and he'll go from op to flat on his face.


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Yes it does ruin the experience because by the time other players reach the next area, the AW already cleared out that group of enemies.  The AW can run ahead and basically solo the kills without any risk or consequence.  Other classes simply can't keep up because they don't have the speed or the power to match it.

 

This hasn't ever been a problem for me when I've been playing with other people using AW. I'm not doing anything special with Keepers, Archers, or whathaveyou, but I rarely have issues keeping up with AW.

 

Many times the AW won't even bother helping or reviving teamates.

 

That's a description of PuGs, in general.



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When I first started I loved the idea of playing as an archer. I like the idea of using a bow and I wanted to get into that character. Well in this game they are useless, they can really only focus on one enemy at a time, weak dps and cannot take any hits.  You'll be sitting back like a sucker trying to snipe when the AW is clearing out massive mobs of enemies.

Huh?  Archers can put out a ton of damage.  Full Draw one shots a lot of different enemies.  I've had long shot with the extra ability for it hit 3 or 4 enemies, explosive shot does the same thing.  Like other classes, their abilities get better with their weapon, but an AW with a weak staff isn't very good either.


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The secret is out? I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but that "secret" has been out for a while.

 

Still, an AW is only op when he's got something to hit so that he can regenerate his barrier. Pit him against ranged enemies and he'll go from op to flat on his face.

ranged enemies like the skeletal archers and wraiths that die easily?   AW can easily fade or frost step an entire line of ranged enemies and chop them down with ease, even on perilous. Like I said I have watched AW solo action including all of zone 5.  If you can solo zone 5 on perilous then is there really anything in the game that can stop you?

 

the answer is no



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In this thread:

 

AWs OP - do all the damage.

Archers: useless!

 

You heard the facts here first folks!


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Huh?  Archers can put out a ton of damage.  Full Draw one shots a lot of different enemies.  I've had long shot with the extra ability for it hit 3 or 4 enemies, explosive shot does the same thing.  Like other classes, their abilities get better with their weapon, but an AW with a weak staff isn't very good either.

Full draw is bad.



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When I first started I loved the idea of playing as an archer. I like the idea of using a bow and I wanted to get into that character. Well in this game they are useless, they can really only focus on one enemy at a time, weak dps and cannot take any hits.  You'll be sitting back like a sucker trying to snipe when the AW is clearing out massive mobs of enemies.


Are you serious or just trolling? You regularly one shot 1–3 enemies with Archer's Lance, sometimes more. They don't even have to be in a straight line.

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In addition the a slight adjustment to the AW's skills, I would add more incentive to supporting and reviving teamates.  In ME3 there was a medal for reviving teamates. How isnt there a similar medal in damp?  You  have to encourage people to play teamwork, because right now there's too much incentive to just pick an AW and god mode yourself to first place without any consideration for teamates.



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Idk why it matters. This isn't PvP and everyone can use the AW. Sounds balanced to me. I don't use it because it's boring and kinda hard to respect anyone that uses it a lot.

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Full draw is bad.

Takes too much time to use it, but high damage.  The complaint against the archer was low damage.



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Full draw is bad.

 

You're right it is bad and cant compete. So you one shotted a wraith with your full draw, which took about 5 seconds alone just to get the shot off. Now you have a 30 second cool down until you can do it again. In that amount of time the AW went on a 10 kill streak. 



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You're right it is bad and cant compete. So you one shotted a wraith with your full draw, which took about 5 seconds alone just to get the shot off. Now you have a 30 second cool down until you can do it again. In that amount of time the AW went on a 10 kill streak. 

Truth. You could also use upgraded longshot instead and one shot all the wraiths.


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Idk why it matters. This isn't PvP and everyone can use the AW. Sounds balanced to me. I don't use it because it's boring and kinda hard to respect anyone that uses it a lot.

EXACTLY!!!!!  I don't use it because I rather use another class.  So yes we all can technically pick AW and race to the finish line and see who comes out on top (you're forced to race because if you don't there will be no enemies for you to kill)  but that's not fun to me, but neither is picking an archer or mage and having nothing to do because the AW is doing all the killing including being immortal.



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Being forced to rush along is not just because of AWs. It's the person playing not the class.


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AW doesn't usaully revive because they would get killed attempting to do so. Archer is awesome, from the threads you've made you obviously just started playing mp so don't make statements about things you clearly have little knowledge of. I outscore AW with Archer all the time and if not its real close, and since atleast 30% of AW score comes from support xp the Archer is obviously better at killing.


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AW doesn't usaully revive because they would get killed attempting to do so. Archer is awesome, from the threads you've made you obviously just started playing mp so don't make statements about things you clearly have little knowledge of. I outscore AW with Archer all the time and if not its real close, and since atleast 30% of AW score comes from support xp the Archer is obviously better at killing.

if you don't know how dominant AW are then you're the noob, not me.  No archer on the game can match what the AW can do. The AW can solo zone 5!!!  Can you solo zone 5 on perilous with an archer?  I'm not talking about the low level 5 AW. I'm talking about full decked out level 20 AW, they are unstoppable and there is nothing your archer can do to match it.

 

I dare you to say i'm wrong that way everyone here will know you're the noob.