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[Valerius]

Hey everyone, I looked around and was unable to find a topic such as this so I'm wondering which race/class combination do you think brings the most to the table narratively. What I mean by that is which allows you to feel the most involved with the events going on throughout souther thedas. My personal favorite Male Human Warrior who is a faithful andrastian and romances Divine Cassandra. I know many on these forums are going to claim that the Female Elven Mage romancing Solas is their favorite and while I definately see the appeal, I just never felt connected when I tried it. What are your thoughts and opinions? As always, have an amazing day!

[Araceil]

I think its a mix really, the Humans have much more stake in the first half of the game when it's mostly about the mage/templar conflict and to a lesser extent religion. By the second half though I feel elves just have a better connection to the story, what with all the revelations about elves and their gods. As Fearunner said the romance with Solas just seems fitting as well. 

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Yeah. Female elf mage w/Solas for me as well. Just had that extra personal unph for me, particularly around the last stretch of the game. Nothing like finding out your entire life is a lie, and the Solas romance lets your Inquisitor actually have a real personal, emotional reaction to it - and ended up feeling like the most plot-relevant romance in the game, even with the lack of content compared to the others.

 

Only problem is, there's a bug right now where an elven Inquisitor acts completely ignorant around the Temple of Mythal. Hope that gets patched soon.

[FiveThreeTen]

It's personal really, as long as people are not trying to force their canon on others . To me the game mostly makes sense as a Human Inquisitor because in many instances, the fact that you're an Elf/Dwarf/Qunari is not proprely recognised.

 

But selectable races are a good thing, and seperate content needs to be improved, not scraped.

[Aimi]

Only problem is, there's a bug right now where an elven Inquisitor acts completely ignorant around the Temple of Mythal. Hope that gets patched soon.

is it confirmed to be a bug

[DuskWanderer]

Honestly, I've played a female elf and found the whole thing to not be as important as everyone is hyping. Yeah, it has to do with elven history, but unless you were from Abelas's time, it's not your history any more than current Tevinter is Corypheus's. 

 

A human makes the most sense, but really, you can be anyone.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

is it confirmed to be a bug

 

IIRC, yes. I remember it being said that apparently you're supposed to be able to discuss Mythal with Morrigan rather than go all 'Who's Mythal?'  'Fen'Harel?' etc etc.

[DomeWing333]

Human Knight Enchanter is my preferred narrative race/class combination. As a Circle mage, you're already a relevant presence at the Conclave and all the following events involving the mages and templars. As a human, it actually makes sense for you to have a professed faith in Andraste and the Maker if you so choose. And as a Knight Enchanter, you have a connection to both the Chantry (since Knight Enchanters traditionally serves the Divine) and elven culture (since it's based off the Arcane Warrior).

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

That's where I have to disagree. I don't think it's a "lie" since the Dalish as a culture fully admit they don't know much about what happened in the past, have only stories and legends based on what little scraps they have, and are trying to rediscover and recreate their past so they won't have to do it forever. While still in the process of uncovering the past, people are bound to get incomplete pictures and make mistakes on details. My Dalish never felt like, "The Dalish were wrong! My life is a lie!" She consistently felt like, "So our stories are true!" or "So this is the grain of truth those legends are based on! What else is there?"

 

Otherwise, yes, I agree. It does make the discoveries that much more emotionally charged and personally relevant, and Solas just adds to it exponentially, and does feel the most plot-relevant despite having the least amount of scenes.

 

True enough, I guess it all depends on how you're playing your character. My Lavellan was pretty bright-eyed and naive, so she was pretty crushed by it all. The final scene of the Solas romance had one of my favourite bits of dialogue for that:

 

Spoiler

 

Inquisitor: "So this is...what? Just one more thing the Dalish got wrong?"

Solas: "I'm sorry." 

Inquisitor: *sounding nearly in tears* "We try to preserve our culture...and this is what we keep? Relics of a time when we were no better than Tevinter?"

Solas: "Don't say that." 

 

 

That was also pretty much the only scene where I felt the Inquisitor could have a really emotional reaction to something, on that note. One of the reasons I loved that arc so much.

[jlb524]

human mage probably

[TheJediSaint]

Human warrior, Champ spec.

Why? Because it's good to be Champion.

[Valerius]

Sorry, I'm one of them.

 

There are just so many areas and temples we explore that are pertinent to elven history and lore (Exalted Plains, Emerald Graves, Halamshiral, Temple of Dirthamen--even Skyhold!) and the last stretch of the game's story involves elven ruins and lore (Arbor Wilds, Temple of Mythal, Well of Sorrows, Abelas, "Flemythal," etc). While any Dalish Inquisitor would feel that much more connected to it, I personally feel a Keeper's First is all the more relevant since their de facto role in the Clan was studying ancient elven lore, and a female who romances Solas gets that much more out of it since he's a central party member, knows the most about ancient elven history and lore, and is revealed to be an ancient elven god at the end.

 

You don't have to agree, but that's what I got out of it.

Fair enough haha you have a fair point. The reason I didn't feel too involved with it is for 2 reasons. The first being that most of the plot is about human events, making a human seem more ideal. The second being that I can't see how southern thedas would accept a mage as the inquisitor, due to it's historical fear of magic. Not to mention with all the events going on right now, with the Breach and Corypheus and all that, the people's fear of magic would be at an all time high. To me it seems the people would have an easier time following a mundane, who is more similar to them you know?

[Cespar]

Probably human, and doesn't matter the class. No story is not going to be for humans.

[Fiery Phoenix]

human mage probably

human anything really

[Valerius]

Human warrior, Champ spec.

Why? Because it's good to be Champion.

And it doesn't turn you into a lyrium junkie or a psychopathic killer

[Precursor Meta]

The beginning of the story best fits the human male or female that romances any human and believes he/she is the herald of andraste.

The second half heavy implies that you should've been an elf that romances Solas. Qunari and dwarves literally have no place in the main story. Well the dwarf kind of does because if you do the templar story. But that's about it.

[LostInReverie19]

Yeah, I'm on board with the female Dalish elf who romances Solas. It just adds so much more to the story. My first playthrough was actually a Solavellan one, and I didn't realize how crucial to the plot my Lavellan's race and relationship were going to be. It was very exciting and heartbreaking all at the same time.

 

But then again I also think that any elf, male or female, who romances Solas or not, is a very good choice for this game, because the game deals a lot with the Dalish and what they got wrong about their past. Qunari and dwarves seem like the two races that are least relevant to the story, but they can still be interesting nonetheless. 

 

If DA4 goes north to Tevinter and Seheron and deals with a possible Qunari invasion, then I think the Qunari are going to be the most relevant racial choice, which will be interesting. 

[Urazz]

To me it really feels like the Elves and Humans are the only ones who tend to have a more major tie in to the story.

[JadeDragon]

Human anything for entire game. Human's not knowing anything at Temple of Mythal makes sense. And allows the player to still feel just as connected to not just he plot but your own character because you are just as lost in the whole elven god thing as they are. You go from "I am Andraste's Herald" to "Wait...Elf gods?". Female Elves with Solas for the latter half of the game. Dwarf for the hissing waste zone and maybe templar story. Qunari for nothing.

[TheJediSaint]

Also, being a human warrior means Corypheus, and ancient Magister of old, gets defeated by an uppity soporati.  How is that not cool?

[Abyss108]

Also jumping on the female Elf with Solas wagon! I like mage for class, because of the extra dialogue options, and because of the whole First + Fen'Harel thing.

 

I won't post all the reasons, as so many people above me have already posted them!

[Valerius]

Also, being a human warrior means Corypheus, and ancient Magister of old, gets defeated by an uppity soporati.  How is that not cool?

Exactly it presents an interesting battle between one who lived when mages ruled everyone else, and one who embodies the new world in which the mundane are able to rule themselves. So yeah human mundane wins over here. (Warrior fits the role of a leader more, but a rogue just feels more badass)

[Bad King]

I have to agree with all of the female elf/mage/Solas romance comments. Elven heritage plays a large role in the main narrative and being a mage (particularly a Rift Mage) adds an extra connection to the veil tear crisis, to the mage rebellion and to Solas & Cole and their revelations regarding the nature of spirits, demons and the fade. An Andrastian male human templar romancing Cassandra would also have some connections with the narrative (though to a lesser degree IMO).

 

The importance of Dwarf and Qunari culture has been dramatically reduced compared to DA:O and DA2 respectively, so I would argue that these races are less bound up in the narrative than an elf or human (though being the only fem qunari in the land does make one feel more exceptional!).