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[Diego Vargas]

Is not an Arcane Warrior problem at all, it is the fact that the guard generation classes are useless in comparison to the constant barrier the AW can generate.

 

****, half the reason why people cry about demon commander is the primary tank classes in the game are garbage at actually tanking (without some niche that focus around invincibility/crits).

 

We should be able to drop a legionaire/templar into any party and have them fulfill the role of tank keeping agro and easily absorbing hits without needing a keeper inserted as a barrier suppository.

 

 

[Gya]

Inb4 sh*tstorm

[smooth_operator]

or just get rid of the AW perpetual barrier generation. Seriously as long as that exists why use anything else?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

or just get rid of the AW perpetual barrier generation. Seriously as long as that exists why use anything else?

 

I always use other classes. Rotating between them is fun.

 

Why constantly use the same class?

[DrKilledbyDeath]

Well maybe if you would all try the ham at camp you could be OP too.

[Eelectrica]

Game would get boring real fast if only one character was played.

The whole point of the game is to play different characters and try different builds.

[smooth_operator]

Game would get boring real fast if only one character was played.

The whole point of the game is to play different characters and try different builds.

Yes but only if the mechanics are balanced. How much fun is it to play with an AW no matter what class you are?  Pick any other class and you will be worthless and not have anything to do.  The only excitment you'll get is dying and not being revived by the AW so you can watch them solo the entire match from your beautiful front row seat in the fade.

[hellbiter88]

Well maybe if you would all try the ham at camp you could be OP too.

 

haha this

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Yes but only if the mechanics are balanced. How much fun is it to play with an AW no matter what class you are?  Pick any other class and you will be worthless and not have anything to do.  The only excitment you'll get is dying and not being revived by the AW so you can watch them solo the entire match from your beautiful front row seat in the fade.

 

As I mentioned in the other thread, I never have this problem.

 

If the AW is clearing all the rooms solo before you get there, what exactly is killing you? 

[smooth_operator]

As I mentioned in the other thread, I never have this problem.

 

If the AW is clearing all the rooms solo before you get there, what exactly is killing you? 

zone 5, but there may be times when you're lucky enough to reach the action, but if you die don't count on being revived by the AW.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

zone 5, but there may be times when you're lucky enough to reach the action, but if you die don't count on being revived by the AW.

 

So now you're claiming that no one who plays AW ever revives anyone?

 

You don't actually play the game, do you?

[smooth_operator]

So now you're claiming that no one who plays AW ever revives anyone?

 

You don't actually play the game, do you?

The skilled AW thats crushing mobs of enemies solo is not interested in reviving any teamates. It's not necessary

 

You can protest all you want or quit, it doesnt matter. If you quit you'll only be hurting yourself. You need the AW, the AW doesnt need you lol

[daravin2k]

The skilled AW thats crushing mobs of enemies solo is not interested in reviving any teamates. It's not necessary
 
You can protest all you want or quit, it doesnt matter. If you quit you'll only be hurting yourself. You need the AW, the AW doesnt need you lol

I've revived more AW characters than any of the others. If you can play the AW so well and don't want to challenge yourself, that's up to you. But saying that playing other characters makes a player inferior leads me to believe you're either lazy or need to L2P.

tl;dr - L2P

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

The skilled AW thats crushing mobs of enemies solo is not interested in reviving any teamates. It's not necessary

 

You can protest all you want or quit, it doesnt matter. If you quit you'll only be hurting yourself. You need the AW, the AW doesnt need you lol

 

I stand by my assumption that you don't actually play the game much. I might have experienced what you are talking about once or twice in total since I started playing. Most of what you claim can't even be classified as exaggeration. You are essentially inventing a problem where none exists.

 

Just because an AW outscored you once or twice is no reason to be this upset. Try playing the game a bit more, and you will see that the Arcane Warrior is not the game's defining characteristic.

[Jkregers]

There are probably a higher percentage of tools playing arcane warrior than any other class. 

[McPartyson]

The AW is the best and in a class of it's own. It's that simple. Any argument against it is false. After AW, Keeper/Elementalist.

 

If you get into the classic argument "once you get such and such gear and stats then the other classes are better" well it's all BS because Perilous becomes easy for all of them after a certain point with gear/stats...and if another harder difficulty were implemented by Bioware...AW would once again still be on top due to the nature of his survivability skills.

[Catastrophy]

I have great idea! We have Templers. Templer can suppres the magic power. AW is all magic power. Problem is solve!

[smooth_operator]

I've revived more AW characters than any of the others. If you can play the AW so well and don't want to challenge yourself, that's up to you. But saying that playing other characters makes a player inferior leads me to believe you're either lazy or need to L2P.

tl;dr - L2P

 

I'm lazy says the one who uses terms like L2P to communicate.  How about you learn to type you lazy bum!

[DBR87]

Is not an Arcane Warrior problem at all, it is the fact that the guard generation classes are useless in comparison to the constant barrier the AW can generate.

 

****, half the reason why people cry about demon commander is the primary tank classes in the game are garbage at actually tanking (without some niche that focus around invincibility/crits).

 

We should be able to drop a legionaire/templar into any party and have them fulfill the role of tank keeping agro and easily absorbing hits without needing a keeper inserted as a barrier suppository.

 

[daravin2k]

I'm lazy says the one who uses terms like L2P to communicate. How about you learn to type you lazy bum!

Says the one one who types AW instead of Arcane Warrior. AW=Easy Button lol.

[smooth_operator]

Says the one one who types AW instead of Arcane Warrior. AW=Easy Button lol.

Hey you called me lazy first! 

[Black Mambo]

When I'm solo, I Rambo Threat/Perilous as AW and don't give two hoots about any pot or a Treasure room. 
When I'm in a PuG, I support team with PoTA and Stonefist, I never go Rambo.
So don't blame the character, blame the player.

Also as many PuGs I've done, if one other AW joins in, out of nowhere and without any communication we synchronize our cooldowns for PoTA for total CC, none goes Rambo. I'd be lying if I said there has never been an Rambo AW, but it's not that frequent! Just because a few PuGgers went Rambo with their AW some have made this ridiculous allegation that all AW's go Rambo and are OP. Well, try other classes, a lot of them are OP too provided one knows what they are doing. For eg; as a Lego you can basically enter constant God-Mode if you do the right build for him. Surely God-Mode sounds more OP than a 30% Barrier Generation passive, IMO.

And if you remove the Barrier Generation/Nerf it, on the AW then he becomes squishy as HELL. Why? Well, Necro and Ele have Death Siphon so basically as long as things are getting killed them two are getting healed. Ele on the top has a damn Barrier which with the Flashpoint passive is practically free to cast in AT LEAST every 10 seconds. Keeper has a decent Barrier spam rate too.

Seesh, there are 11 other classes, why do we have to just focus on one?
I say enough with "AW OP!!1! herp-derp nerf him!!!1one!2!!3!1!!!!"
Try other classes!

[smooth_operator]

Wait, are you serious? I play the Lego all the time and end up soloing wave 5 because the AWs and Necros get themselves ganked.

Yeah ok, what potions are you using lol

[DBR87]

Yeah ok, what potions are you using lol

 

I think it's more Legionnaire has 3 skills that give him invulnerability for a time. Walking Fortress, Unyeilding, and To The Death can can make you invulnerable if you can juggle their cooldowns which isn't hard if you throw Wary Cry and Shield wall in the mix.

 

That dwarf got dat mad guard generation, yo.