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[Jeffry]

It appears if TW3 had released as planned, it would be encountering troubles of their own, as the delays were to solve problems found late in development.

And these well deserved awards have little to do with sales at launch. While it may have been cool to knock Bioware in the recent past, it seemingly is now passé seeing that pre-orders and sales at launch went so well.

 

Well deserved awards, ok No point in trying to convince you with arguments that the sales weren't so high just because the game would be that awesome or because BW would be so trusted.

[Rawgrim]

And yet, these remarks have been said before with other titles, and DAI is now the best launch of any Bioware game. It would seem that more do believe Bioware is honest than those that do not.

 

Didn't hurt the pre-orders that almost nobody got to play the demo of the game, because EA charged money for it.

[Elhanan]

Well deserved awards, ok No point in trying to convince you with arguments that the sales weren't so high just because the game would be that awesome or because BW would be so trusted.

The awards came well after launch; had nothing to do with these sales at all.

Edit; Am speaking of the major awards that have been recently awarded (eg; DICE GOTY); not awards that were done by review sites around the time of launch. These obviously have influence to some folks like myself. However, those that contend such awards are purchased for the hype have yielded their belief to this; cannot have it both ways.

[ShinsFortress]

That piece just goes to prove how Bioware's senior management are so seriously divorced from reality.  Or at least from any reality, games-wise, that me or any of my friends know.  The disconnection is so bad it makes the railway industry feel like it's actually in the 21st century.

[Jeffry]

Didn't hurt the pre-orders that almost nobody got to play the demo of the game, because EA charged money for it.

 

And when there was a playable demo at GamesCom (not long before release) and some people didn't like it much or had doubts, it was by many others dissmised as nonsense and that the game is not yet finished and the world will be more alive.

 

Honestly I was surprised when I read this article (I could link it, but it is in my native language) and I dissmised this "nonsense" as well. And ofc when the proper review came on the same site (1 day before release), it was done by someone else, the game got 9/10 and was praied for surpassing its predecessors

[Jeffry]

The awards came well after launch; had nothing to do with these sales at all.

 

Yeah, there were absolutely no awards from E3 for example or nominations for awards (And first awards came very shortly after the launch, well within the period that EA counts when it comes to success).

 

The game was hyped and it helped sales, you can't deny that. There was no objective method to find out prior to release if the game is actually going to be good or not, like Rawgrim pointed out. You can't deny that. EA and BW made sure that the game will be portrayed as much possitively as possible with nothing negative that could bring it down (nothing uncommon or illogical), but they had done so in really dishonest way (nothing uncommon too, but despicable nevertheless) by either not telling the truth or by downright lying. And you can't deny that either Marketing and good PR sell more games nowadays than the actual quality or trust.

[Elhanan]

Yeah, there were absolutely no awards from E3 for example or nominations for awards (And first awards came very shortly after the launch, well within the period that EA counts when it comes to success).
 
The game was hyped and it helped sales, you can't deny that. There was no objective method to find out prior to release if the game is actually going to be good or not, like Rawgrim pointed out. You can't deny that. EA and BW made sure that the game will be portrayed as much possitively as possible with nothing negative that could bring it down (nothing uncommon or illogical), but they had done so in really dishonest way (nothing uncommon too, but despicable nevertheless) by either not telling the truth or by downright lying. And you can't deny that either Marketing and good PR sell more games nowadays than the actual quality or trust.

See Edit.

[Jeffry]

See Edit.

 

Well the point still stands. Any awards helped the sales to some degree. And they weren't exactly small, the very first DAI won was The Game Awards, one of the biggest goty events and people watch it more than the DICE one. That was on 5th of december, 2 and a half weeks after the launch.

 

Point is BioWare and EA have been dishonest and haven't done anything since the release to make it better. Chest beating and showing off how many awards they have won doesn't help, fixing the game and living up to their promises would help.

 

But I fear that even if BW told us to "**** off and stop complaining", many people would still buy the new DA game, because the hype will top anything.

[ardarn]

It's pretty baffling that they can be a return to form when the combat has gone from intense, strategic, and incredibly varied (BG, DAO and DA2, NWN, ME, JE, KOTOR) to almost identical with all mages (DA:I) or nearly broken (DW rogues on anything other than a flat surface - DAI).

They *did* do main story quests incredibly well (but only about 5 rather short ones), and obviously the graphics are great (thanks Frostbite...), but there are some seriously disparate aspects to the game. Side quests/huge open world to me feels in direct conflict with deep characters/supposedly world-ending plot. You simply can't hold the illusion that an insanely powerful being is about to become a god while strolling around a giant open world with no time limits and no clear consequences to most of your actions in most zones. [I realize that the Skyrim plot technically did this, but I also guarantee almost nobody gave a crap about the plot - it's completely secondary to the open-world ES gameplay.]

This. They could have easily solved it though a little more stronger connection to the main story. Like each area gets influenced by the big bad and distroy the life of the residents. And SHOW these events before and after.

Maybe they should have picked up some npcs and give them cinematic cut scenes and tie most quests to the area to them would have created a stonger emotional tie to the main story and we would have cared about it more. Kinda like DAO. Now that would have been return to the roots:)

[line_genrou]

Brent Knowles' Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia....i/Brent_Knowles

 

Here my friends

I think these are the people you are looking for

People that worked in BG and NWN plus the director of DAO

[Rawgrim]

 

Here my friends

I think these are the people you are looking for

People that worked in BG and NWN plus the director of DAO

 

5th edition ruleset. Sorry, but this game is dead on arrival. The 4th edition ruined the Forgotten Realms.

 

Also: Only 5 races and 6 classes. It reeks of microtransactions.

[Hexoduen]

5th edition ruleset. Sorry, but this game is dead on arrival. The 4th edition ruined the Forgotten Realms.

 

Also: Only 5 races and 6 classes. It reeks of microtransactions.

 

What I don't like about 4th edition is that it dumbed down a lot of what made D&D tactical and differentiated. I'm guessing to cater a larger crowd. Kinda like the move Dragon Age has taken with Inquisition.

 

Inquisition is still an amazing game (I really do love it  ), but I do not like the way the "ruleset" is heading. It's too simplified and 'streamlined', there's not enough options in character build and combat.

[Melca36]

And yet, these remarks have been said before with other titles, and DAI is now the best launch of any Bioware game. It would seem that more do believe Bioware is honest than those that do not.

And when DA4 comes out people will complain too.

[DaemionMoadrin]

And when DA4 comes out people will complain too.

 

I won't complain at all, because I won't be playing it.

[Jeffry]

And when DA4 comes out people will complain too.

 

I will complain if it will suck and if the devs will again lie to us. But I will definitely wait post-launch this time and decide whether to buy it or not only when I can get the true picture of the game.

[luism]

I won't complain at all, because I won't be playing it.

This

[Rawgrim]

I won't complain at all, because I won't be playing it.

 

I will. Unless it is an mmo. But I won't be buying it on release day.

[Elhanan]

I will. Unless it is an mmo. But I won't be buying it on release day.

Will likely pre-order again, unless I am unable to meet the recommended specs.

[Jeffry]

Will likely pre-order again, unless I am unable to meet the recommended specs.

 

Yeah, we figured

[Elhanan]

Yeah, we figured

It only seemed fair given all of the other personal statements concerning future purchases....

[Rawgrim]

Will likely pre-order again, unless I am unable to meet the recommended specs.

 

Be careful what you wish for. The recommended spec for the next game just might be lobotomy. I will be keeping a sturdy helmet nearby, that's for sure.

[Elhanan]

Be careful what you wish for. The recommended spec for the next game just might be lobotomy. I will be keeping a sturdy helmet nearby, that's for sure.

Already had a stroke; prereq met.

[DisturbedJim83]

Be careful what you wish for. The recommended spec for the next game just might be lobotomy. I will be keeping a sturdy helmet nearby, that's for sure.

Well I've certainly learned not to take Bioware at its word any longer,I'll wait till DA4 is on sale before I get it,if I get it at all if it goes the way of DAI then likely not. 

[SnakeCode]

And when there was a playable demo at GamesCom (not long before release) and some people didn't like it much or had doubts, it was by many others dissmised as nonsense and that the game is not yet finished and the world will be more alive.

 

Honestly I was surprised when I read this article (I could link it, but it is in my native language) and I dissmised this "nonsense" as well. And ofc when the proper review came on the same site (1 day before release), it was done by someone else, the game got 9/10 and was praied for surpassing its predecessors

For some reason critics continually drop the ball when it comes to Dragon Age reviews. There's a gaming magazine in the UK that i've been reading for around a decade, since I was a little kid. They cover all platforms, and give detaled, unbiased reviews. The magazine is all about the games, contains little advertising space and unlike the majority of American VG media these days, isn't concerned about "gaming culture" or sexism in gaming or any stuff besides the actual games. I'm in agreement with almost every review I read, they point out the good and the bad and are never afraid to call BS when the game is inferior to previous builds (like E3 demos and such.)

 

And yet even they give some wildly head scratching reviews for DA games. Origins got 82% (they mark games in percentages, out of 100) saying it was a good but flawed game with annoying characters. They specifically had an intense dislike for Alistair.

 

DA2 was given 91% (lol ) saying that it had improved in every aspect since Origins (again, lol.)

 

Inquisition was awarded 86%. They said it was a masterpiece, but points were deducted because the first twenty hours or so are a slog (the Hinterlands were brought up more than once .)

 

I will note that Inquisition only ranked #17 in their "top 30 games of 2014" article, so they didn't go overboard like many others did.

[Sunbrow]

 

A playstation game that wants to be up to PC standards (It is blaring) and fails. Been months now and they still just talking about programmable keys/mouse. But in all fairness I do just hit one button in all but boss fights (why complicate it). This Rift's MMO clone is a button mashing red bull induced Call of Duty reject...with cool movies.  Butchered skill trees, character class choices, and companion control. Built up the Mage/Templar war nicely thru narration and adventure to culminate in to what?....bring back a dead enemy and glowing a green hand...WTF? The mass effect 3 syndrome strikes again...nice build up to only come to a screeching halt, with an over thought ending ( K you did try and fix MA3 so I give you hug...still wuv you). Character graphics are just sad for modern release from Bioware, but hey it had to work in a playstation (explains alot). Scenery nice except when it refuses to fade and blocks combat...omg who playtested this. Music is stirring in cutscenes..not sure if its working right in normal play. So I built up the inquisition/skyhold for what? (so this is optional like harvesting right fanboys?)...makes me want to opt out of the whole game...click..click..click..good thing I have a naga mouse...or my f key...won't move to harvestables/loot either, gotta be right on top of it.  Bugs galore, the whole thing was rushed for release or they just could careless about professionalism and the reputation they just defecated all over (Bioware).  Really where you shine is your toon porn...thinking maybe a new line of work in this field.  For this game you could have cut it in half and given me a few cool options in Origin story...sad

 

Well back to a game that you can be proud of that I playtested for free (what a novel idea) SWTOR. Let you guys get back to your red bull and playstations.