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Arguing with Elhanan is less productive than bashing your head against a wall. Why do you even bother?


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Arguing with Elhanan is less productive than bashing your head against a wall. Why do you even bother?


It is seemingly easier to dismiss the poster than the debate. Thus the continued personal charges against most of those that prefer to defend the game aka The Fab Five.

Now back to the Ignore portion of our programs.....

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This "form" isn't what got me interested in Bioware games. DAI is just a mess.


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It is seemingly easier to dismiss the poster than the debate. Thus the continued personal charges against most of those that prefer to defend the game aka The Fab Five.

Now back to the Ignore portion of our programs.....

 

Go back and read your last... 50 posts in this forum. Compare them. Look at their content. And then tell me that you contributed to the discussion at hand.

 

Or perhaps you only promoted your very narrow, personal view and dismissed well reasoned posts because they didn't mesh with your opinion.

 

You stubbornly repeat yourself again and again, trying to "win" discussions with a quantity of posts that often are nothing more than onliners.

 

Honestly, I have nothing against you personally but the way you argue in this forum is irritating and aggravating.

 

Sorry.


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Go back and read your last... 50 posts in this forum. Compare them. Look at their content. And then tell me that you contributed to the discussion at hand.

 

Or perhaps you only promoted your very narrow, personal view and dismissed well reasoned posts because they didn't mesh with your opinion.

 

You stubbornly repeat yourself again and again, trying to "win" discussions with a quantity of posts that often are nothing more than onliners.

 

Honestly, I have nothing against you personally but the way you argue in this forum is irritating and aggravating.

 

Sorry.

Exactly..

 

Theres a handful of them.. No matter how logical your argument, even given proof, they just keep repeating themselves.. Conveniently bypassing the data presented.. It really is like talking to a BoT... Auto-Response mode, activate!


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#206
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http://www.theverge....ames-on-youtube

 

Back to form indeed.


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The game is a hot broken mess. It is not a return to form. The game is dumbed down. Blood Magic has been removed. The game cannot be installed on the older generation consoles.

 

It's just one problem after another.

 

Honestly it is not a return to form. The game doesn't even allow us gamers/players to select our own stat points.

 

Then there isn't enough story content to justify trudging through all those area's we unlock via the map in the war room.

 

It's just not worth it.

 

So no not a return to form.


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Back to form indeed.


And am guessing that there are a few pro-DAI reviews one could also find there....

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I was playing Origins last night to look for some info, and I got into a battle. Man what a difference between that and Inquisition. I didn't have to cast any barriers, and I had more than 8 skills/spells to use, and tactical camera showed me everything, and the fights felt much more satisfying. And when I talked to people, I had like... 6 detailed responses each time. Man it was great!


Of those 6 options, 4 are investigate options that do not progress the dialogue in any way. So really, you get the same or less options in DAO, not more.

As for the combat being satisfying: sure, if you severely restrict yourself. If you fully make use of all the options the game gives you, every fight is a cakewalk, on every difficulty. Every single one of them. Hell, the Archdemon can be killed by using just two skills. Sure, it takes a lot of time if you do like it like that, but to act like DA:O's combat was so super awesome compared to DA:I is just plain weird to me.

(and by making use of all the options the game gives you, I mean: you can use 5 spells and auto attacks to beat the vast majority of the game. Only difficulty lies in becoming a high enough level to get those skills)

And instead of casting barriers, you cast heal spells all the time or chuck potions. Soooo much better, right? -_-

Only thing that was better in DA:O of the points you make is the tactical camera.

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And am guessing that there are a few pro-DAI reviews one could also find there....


This wording is quite telling.

As if anybody in here was *against* DA:I. In fact, since (a guessed) 90% of posters here already purchased and played through DA:I, nothing could be more wrong.

As if anybody voicing criticism was *against* DA:I. In fact, (a guessed) 90% of critical posters here just want DA:I to be better.

What you keep doing is building fronts, and then decrying others for being toxic, mean, irrational, what-have-you.

I agree, it's aggravating.
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If this thread gets locked because people make personal attacks against Elhanen and Realmz.. Holy crap..

 

"Not going anywhere" or "Too hostile" has been used by biowaremods liberally as an excuse to shut down these threads. Stick to arguments/counter arguments.Sheesh


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My first thought was that somebody at Gamespot jumped the gun and posted their April 1st article a little early,

 

Then I noticed this was industry awards show. <_<

 

Like all peer awards shows this was just an excuse for one big circle-jerk.

 

Everybody wins, everyone's game is great, every game is ground-breaking and innovative.

 

As far as Darrah's claims for DA:I ... I'll give him an 'E' for effort but "Inquisition" gets a D-minus.

 

Graded on a curve allowing for BiowEAre's pathetic response fixing it's many problems make that an F-minus.

 

This game had a lot of potential and they squandered it.

 

Now they are squandering the last of their customer's goodwill as they play CYA and pretend everything is ok.

 

(edit for spelling)


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REALY am I playing the same Game???? http://l.gamespot.com/1xB9PBO"I think really it's both a return to form, a return to what BioWare did in its roots: exploration, story-telling, character development," he said. "Also, us starting to explore new areas [being] deeper, open-world gameplay. I think just that combination is what really resonated with people." Those are his words this was after winning Game of the year at The Dice Awards.

What really resonated with the people is how DAO worked...you'd think they went blind and can't look back at Origins to see what was good.



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As for the combat being satisfying: sure, if you severely restrict yourself. If you fully make use of all the options the game gives you, every fight is a cakewalk, on every difficulty. Every single one of them. Hell, the Archdemon can be killed by using just two skills. Sure, it takes a lot of time if you do like it like that, but to act like DA:O's combat was so super awesome compared to DA:I is just plain weird to me.(and by making use of all the options the game gives you, I mean: you can use 5 spells and auto attacks to beat the vast majority of the game. Only difficulty lies in becoming a high enough level to get those skills)And instead of casting barriers, you cast heal spells all the time or chuck potions. Soooo much better, right? -_-Only thing that was better in DA:O of the points you make is the tactical camera.


Well I don't know about you, but I had to restrict myself in DAI from not instagibbing every enemy in the face, since BW thought it would be cool idea to have at your disposal an ability, that can literally destroy a high dragon in five seconds. Or if that is too easy, you can always bind every possible key with spirit blade and just play the game by facerolling on the keyboard :D

DAO was easy as well though, but it was usually done so by clever combination of characters (Shale + 3 mages etc.), not just by a few classes alone that don't give a sh*t if you have a party with them or not.

And yes, Archdemon was easy if you knew what you're doing, but in DAI you have Corypheus, so...

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I enjoyed Inquisition. As many others have pointed out, when he says a "return to form," he is talking about the exploration which was present in early Bioware titles like Baldur's Gate.

 

I have a feeling that, regardless of what Bioware did, there would still be fans out there complaining. 'Tis the bitter and ungrateful nature of the gaming community. If they released Dragon Age Origins 2.0, people would just accuse them of failing to innovate and bandy about the old "EA overlords" cliche.

 

I'm sure this post will get lost in the unending flood of gifs, though, so return to your normal broadcast.



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Two questions pop into my head...

 

What do they pay Gamespot to post these things and that the disconnect between Developer and Customer is far far wider than i thought...



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Two questions pop into my head...
 
What do they pay Gamespot to post these things and that the disconnect between Developer and Customer is far far wider than i thought...


Believe that reads as a single question. But that's OK; nobody really expected any better....

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If this thread gets locked because people make personal attacks against Elhanen and Realmz.. Holy crap..

 

"Not going anywhere" or "Too hostile" has been used by biowaremods liberally as an excuse to shut down these threads. Stick to arguments/counter arguments.Sheesh

 

That's exactly the issue here. :)



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Well I don't know about you, but I had to restrict myself in DAI from not instagibbing every enemy in the face, since BW thought it would be cool idea to have at your disposal an ability, that can literally destroy a high dragon in five seconds. Or if that is too easy, you can always bind every possible key with spirit blade and just play the game by facerolling on the keyboard :D

 

I've been away for a few months since DAI's release and decided not to get it until I have a PS4, so I'm out of the loop. Gibbing? As in messy kills? A mage only thing or was that added in for warriors after all? And what ability kills a high dragon in seconds?



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I've been away for a few months since DAI's release and decided not to get it until I have a PS4, so I'm out of the loop. Gibbing? As in messy kills? A mage only thing or was that added in for warriors after all? And what ability kills a high dragon in seconds?

 

I think it is the Thousand Cuts ability that rogues can use. The one where you cut enemies to bits even if you don't have weapons equipped.



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I think it is the Thousand Cuts ability that rogues can use. The one where you cut enemies to bits even if you don't have weapons equipped.

 

No weapons needed. They can flay them WITH THEIR MINDS!  :ph34r:

 

Sorry.


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No weapons needed. They can flay them WITH THEIR MINDS!  :ph34r:

 

Sorry.

 

That is indeed what it looks like, yes.



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Of those 6 options, 4 are investigate options that do not progress the dialogue in any way. So really, you get the same or less options in DAO, not more.

As for the combat being satisfying: sure, if you severely restrict yourself. If you fully make use of all the options the game gives you, every fight is a cakewalk, on every difficulty. Every single one of them. Hell, the Archdemon can be killed by using just two skills. Sure, it takes a lot of time if you do like it like that, but to act like DA:O's combat was so super awesome compared to DA:I is just plain weird to me.

(and by making use of all the options the game gives you, I mean: you can use 5 spells and auto attacks to beat the vast majority of the game. Only difficulty lies in becoming a high enough level to get those skills)

And instead of casting barriers, you cast heal spells all the time or chuck potions. Soooo much better, right? -_-

Only thing that was better in DA:O of the points you make is the tactical camera.

Im playing Origins nm now, and i usew no heal spells...  Whats this obsession claiming everyone HAD to use healers to play Origins nightmare? Its bull, and a lazy excuse to defend this stupid design of bariers/guard in Inquisition.. They took out a MASSIVE part of your ability trees.. Thats it.. Your defending the lazy decision to NOT finish the product!!!


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My first thought was that somebody at Gamespot jumped the gun and posted their April 1st article a little early,

 

Then I noticed this was industry awards show. <_<

 

Like all peer awards shows this was just an excuse for one big circle-jerk.

 

Everybody wins, everyone's game is great, every game is ground-breaking and innovative.

 

As far as Darrah's claims for DA:I ... I'll give him an 'E' for effort but "Inquisition" gets a D-minus.

 

Graded on a curve allowing for BiowEAre's pathetic response fixing it's many problems make that an F-minus.

 

This game had a lot of potential and they squandered it.

 

Now they are squandering the last of their customer's goodwill as they play CYA and pretend everything is ok.

 

(edit for spelling)

Did you see the video Angry Joe made about the "industry awards" and how  corrupt it is?  Worth a look, from someone with a first hand perspective.. Its very telling! Basically shows true, what many of us believe to already be..


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Did you see the video Angry Joe made about the "industry awards" and how  corrupt it is?  Worth a look, from someone with a first hand perspective.. Its very telling! Basically shows true, what many of us believe to already be..

 

No, I have not seen that one yet.

 

I'll look it up when I get home from work this evening.

 

Drop a link if you get the chance.