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[Renessa]

Does the ending scene between Flemeth and Solas mean, that in future games there will be no Kate Mulgrew voiced Flemeth? Please, Bioware don't do this.... 

 

Kate Mulgrew made Flemeth into such a great character. She could say the most ridiculous things and still make it sound  badass, mysterious and amusing. I was always looking forward to the "Flemeth moments" in the games. 

 

Flemeth is an absolute fixture within the Dragon Age world. She appears in the first book (and I liked her even then), she plays an important role in DAO and appears in DAI. There were always a lot of discussions about whether she was evil or not or simply, WHAT was she? Finally we just got the big reveal about "Flemythal" and I thought "Yeah, now they can go somewhere with this character" and then they kill her off. Argh! 

 

Somehow, I just want to know, whether there is a conceivable possibility for Flemeth to come back?

 

I know, Flemeth pushed something through the Eluvian in her "final" moments and DA2 made it clear, that she always has a back-up plan. But the only explanation I heard sofar, was that she sent a piece of her soul, the goddess part, to Morrigan. So Morrigan could become Mythal. But that still would mean the end of the real Flemeth.

 

 

And really, if they had to kill her off, couldn't they have given her at least a grander exit? Somehow the way she went does not sit right with the Flemeth we know....

[Egermano]

Yeah, the ending of Inquisition was odd, to say at least. It didn't end on high accord. Not at all. The scenes right after the Cory fight were so depressive that the victory party didn't make you forget them.

 

And, of course, that was writer's intention. They prepared us for the major plot twist+cliffhanger that came after the credits. The game didn't really end here, and I bet we'll see more Flemeth one way or the other.

[Korva]

I do hope she sticks around. I like this character as much as I hate her daughter. Old women are rare in media as it is, and utterly badass old women even moreso, plus her dragon horn hairdo is just wicked. One other thing I like about her is that she can take a joke at her expense ... but there's also always the feeling that it's a tightrope walk. "Don't push it too far, kid," basically. She might not turn into a dragon and eat you, but she can slap you down quite handily with words.

 

And I agree, the ending is ... odd. The battle with Corypheus is a mess. Going by several conversations with NPCs, it felt like they wanted to do a massive Skyhold siege and some one-on-one showdown. Instead we get something that is at once ridiculously over the top (tearing a mountain apart, WTF) and yet pretty pathetic (the actual combat and how he folds in the end). Plus Breach v2.0 which ... does what exactly? And which we close as easily as picking daisies on a Sunday stroll.

 

I did like the scene with Solas post-battle, and with Solas and Flemeth, but it's odd that no one except Leliana and Cole even talks about our missing friend.

[SpiritMuse]

Well Flemeth does have a history of horcruxes and backup plans. I'm pretty sure the amulet that Hawke brings to the Dalish that ends up summoning her back there was a ploy to survive the fight with the Warden over the grimoire.

But if she passed the torch to Morrigan and Morrigan became the new Flemeth, I think Claudia Black can bring a lot of awesomeness, too.

[Ieldra]

Yeah, the ending of Inquisition was odd, to say at least. It didn't end on high accord. Not at all. The scenes right after the Cory fight were so depressive that the victory party didn't make you forget them.

 

And, of course, that was writer's intention. They prepared us for the major plot twist+cliffhanger that came after the credits. The game didn't really end here, and I bet we'll see more Flemeth one way or the other.

I do not agree that it didn't end on high accord. The current conflict is resolved, and that's what this story was about, primarily. Also, no, I didn't find the post-credit scenes depressing.

 

That there's always more, that this wasn't the whole story, takes nothing away from what we've achieved here. As I said elsewhere, the only final closure is death. As long as someone's not dead, there is always the possibility of further stories, and I very much doubt most people complaining the story isn't done would like that outcome.

 

As for Flemeth, I'm afraid we won't see her again. Too bad, really, she's become one of my favorite characters through her appearance in DA2. Nothing is impossible though - we don't know nearly enough about the ecology of the gods to make an informed guess about whether she has a future in this story or not.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Glad she is dead i don't want daverse to spin around her and her story that was already overlong not mention that it was just character that read script script and knew what will happen and knew everything about everyone.Now finish thing with morrigan and solas and let daverse move one from that already overlong story.

[Miss Quisitor]

I don't believe Flemeth was killed at the end scene. Bioware wouldn't just give her a few seconds to die. She will live on.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

If Kate Mulgrew isn't going to be in Dragon Age any more could she please join Mass Effect instead?

 

I've always really liked Flemeth, Kate Mulgrew voicing her is a big part of that but also because she makes me laugh. Its strange, she seems far more of a trickster than Solas, she would have made far more sense as the dread wolf.

[Mims]

I'm fairly certain the only way we'd never hear from Flemeth again is if the actress wanted out. [Or started costing too much.] 

 

 

I've always really liked Flemeth, Kate Mulgrew voicing her is a big part of that but also because she makes me laugh. Its strange, she seems far more of a trickster than Solas, she would have made far more sense as the dread wolf.

 

She definitely is. I would bet good money that, while their goals might align, she's the one using Solas rather than the other way around. She's not going to give up her revenge scheme she's worked thousands of years on for nothing. 

[TheJediSaint]

This isn't the first time Flemeth has died.

[jlb524]

Flemeth nooooooo

She better come back.. I'll help her get some vengeance!!

Against whoever I don't even know

[ZerebusPrime]

We saw a Flemmeth die.  Bodies are such inconvenient things, being in only one place at one time...

[Br3admax]

I was fine with Flemeth dying permanently in Origins. I knew she wouldn't, but I was fine with it. I'm still fine with it now. 

[King Cousland]

Much as I'd like to hear Kate Mulgrew again, I'm afraid that Flemeth's story is done. I don't think it's possible for her to resurrect herself anymore since that ability appeared to be tied to Mythal, who's power has been taken by Solas but who's essence has likely been passed through the eluvian. Even if Flemeth were to reappear, I'd have mixed feelings about this since it would completely undermine the impact of her death at the end of Inquisition. 

[Mariposa Diurna]

I doubt this was the last we heard from Mythal and I hope she gets to keep the voice we're accustomed to hearing.

 

Even if Flemeth has truly died, this wouldn't have to mean the end for Mythal's story. They're not really afraid to bring people back from the dead anyway and even if there were: any bigger story surrounding Solas and the sleeping gods would have to show us a lot of backstory. Backstory that involves Mythal. On that thought, I'd be super into getting a game that deals with the Ancient Elves in Arlathan...and they wouldn't even have to pay contingency any mind since it would take place before the HoF was even a dust speck in the universe.

[King Cousland]

I doubt this was the last we heard from Mythal and I hope she gets to keep the voice we're accustomed to hearing.

 

Even if Flemeth has truly died, this wouldn't have to mean the end for Mythal's story. They're not really afraid to bring people back from the dead anyway and even if there were: any bigger story surrounding Solas and the sleeping gods would have to show us a lot of backstory. Backstory that involves Mythal. On that thought, I'd be super into getting a game that deals with the Ancient Elves in Arlathan...and they wouldn't even have to pay contingency any mind since it would take place before the HoF was even a dust speck in the universe.

 

Mythal will almost certainly pass into Morrigan as Flemeth orgianally intended, in my view. However, I'm sure that the voice is dependent on the body, not the soul. 

[Mariposa Diurna]

But Morrigan would have to want to let that happen, as far as we're told.

[SmilesJA]

I really doubt Flemeth is dead.

[Fredward]

I think her current body is definitely dead so no more Kate Mulgrew voiced Flemeth (you could always watch OITNB), where her character is dead I think is less clear.

[Rekkampum]

Well unless they give her a horcrux, she's gone. But according to dev notes, Flemeth knew Solas would eventually kill her, so it's more than likely she may have prepared for it.

[RicochetHawke]

I can't help but laugh over this debate. It's not like this is the first time we've seen Flemeth (a Flemeth) die in Dragon Age. To me it looked like Solas absorbed a piece of Flemeth, making her far more powerful now than she ever was. 

[Sifr]

Much as I'd like to hear Kate Mulgrew again, I'm afraid that Flemeth's story is done. I don't think it's possible for her to resurrect herself anymore since that ability appeared to be tied to Mythal, who's power has been taken by Solas but who's essence has likely been passed through the eluvian. Even if Flemeth were to reappear, I'd have mixed feelings about this since it would completely undermine the impact of her death at the end of Inquisition. 

 

Completely agree, Kate Mulgrew is a great actress and I would love to see Flemeth again, but her character's arc seemed to end in Inquisition. Her return would have to be really well handled if they did do it, but I'd prefer that if we see the Mulgrew incarnation of Flemeth again, it would have to be as either a vision, memory or some kind of echo in the Fade?

 

Let Morrigan or another daughter become the new incarnation, I say?

[Korva]

Not Morrigan. Please. I hate that character so much.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I haven't cared about Flemeth since DAO. In DA2 she has only two scenes with her and her DAI screen time is less than 5 minutes. At this point, killing Flemeth is the right choice.

[AtreiyaN7]

Nothing depressing or odd about the ending for me. I was left intrigued by the Solas-Flemeth situation.