I think Bioware can be using their time for actual worthwhile DLC. I mean you have 8 people to choose from you don't need to romance every character under the sun.
Did you actually play the game? There aren't 8 options at all.
If you are heterosexual, even fewer.
Actually, there is 8 options available, if you're willing to roleplay as something other than a heterosexual male character. There is two options for the straight male character, the same as there was in DA:O (Morrigan and Leliana) and the same as there was in DA2 (Isabela and Merrill.) It's very weird to me that, for the first time, gay and lesbian players have the same amount of content and yet, all of a sudden, straight guys are "getting the shaft." Uh-huh, sure. 
What's funny is that straight women do have four options. Well, if they play as an elf or human. If they play a dwarf or Qunari, they also get two options. The devs have also stated that, due to the controversy of needing some of the character files in the base game and the claims that folks are "paying for the same content twice," there is not going to be a DLC companion of any sort, romance or otherwise. I figure that the most we'll probably get is some sort of temporary character ala Tallis.
Actually, there is 8 options available, if you're willing to roleplay as something other than a heterosexual male character. There is two options for the straight male character, the same as there was in DA:O (Morrigan and Leliana) and the same as there was in DA2 (Isabela and Merrill.) It's very weird to me that, for the first time, gay and lesbian players have the same amount of content and yet, all of a sudden, straight guys are "getting the shaft." Uh-huh, sure.
[...] there is not going to be a DLC companion of any sort, romance or otherwise. I figure that the most we'll probably get is some sort of temporary character ala Tallis.
Yeah, on the one hand, some posters do pull the comparison card which I don't think is helpful for anybody. On the other hand, I'm not very happy with the romances in DA:I as far as straight male inquisitors and bi-/homosexual female inquisitors are concerned. I liked the straight female options and the homosexual male option, personally. Sadly, as we have seen in the last couple of days again, that whole topic seems to be a taboo for various reasons. =/
Please, no. I'd rather swallow a baseball bat with nails than face a Tallis again.
I had no arguments for the choices I got playing a straight female character (I'm bisexual myself.) I played a dwarven lady and really enjoyed Bull's romance.
And as far as Tallis goes, I'm not a fan of her either. At all. She was just an example of a temporary character from a BW game.
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Though I'm pretty sure BW won't add any options. They have 8 LI's in this game and it's more than any other DA game. DAO had 4 and DA2 had 4+1 (DLC). So 8 is quite big jump ahead.
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Though I'm pretty sure BW won't add any options. They have 8 LI's in this game and it's more than any other DA game. DAO had 4 and DA2 had 4+1 (DLC). So 8 is quite big jump ahead.
This is a great point. For a DA game, DA: I has a ton of romance options. ****, it's double what was in DA: O. An people still aren't happy. I think that this demonstrates that there's nothing that they can do to please everyone. To be honest, I kind of selfishly wish that they had never added in Cullen and Solas, so people wouldn't have this skewed vision of 'getting shafted' in their options. If everyone just had two options, then it would be much more obvious that people just don't like their choices, not that their choices are somehow inferior. Of course, that's easy to say, given that I've never played as a human or elf, so giving up Cullen and Solas is fairly painless for me.
To be honest, I kind of selfishly wish that they had never added in Cullen and Solas, so people wouldn't have this skewed vision of 'getting shafted' in their options. If everyone just had two options, then it would be much more obvious that people just don't like their choices, not that their choices are somehow inferior.
The only solution to this is to make a new dating sim franchise. if the level of character writing is on par with DA and if steered far away from the Japanese equivalent it could make quite a profit.
This is a great point. For a DA game, DA: I has a ton of romance options. ****, it's double what was in DA: O. An people still aren't happy. I think that this demonstrates that there's nothing that they can do to please everyone. To be honest, I kind of selfishly wish that they had never added in Cullen and Solas, so people wouldn't have this skewed vision of 'getting shafted' in their options. If everyone just had two options, then it would be much more obvious that people just don't like their choices, not that their choices are somehow inferior. Of course, that's easy to say, given that I've never played as a human or elf, so giving up Cullen and Solas is fairly painless for me.
I don't think people would have been happy even with 10 or 100 options lol. That's because people are different and like different things which is okay.
I don't think lot of straight female players would have been happy in that case since Solas and Cullen are lot more popular than Blackwall and Iron Bull.
The idea of being stuck with Blackwall and Iron Bull as the only options for straight female PC's sounds really sh*tty lol.
a- If people dislike their choices, colloquial expression would have them say that they are inferior. Since this is an opinion, the "your mileage may vary" is always implied, and misconstruing it as a universal statement tries to shift the discussion to an objective level that neither opinion, neither pro nor con, has any footing on -- but it does invite moral outrage, conflict, grief. No good.
b- Cullen and Solas are good additions. The game would be poorer without them. I enjoyed the Cullen romance, funnily enough, although I never was a fan of him before (his character seems to have matured a lot / got a big helping of 'compatibilisation', however you wish to see it). I don't see why it would be a good course of action to take these from the people who enjoyed them simply to prove a theoretical point about "equal opportunities".
c- I still reserve the right to dislike female lesbian and male straight options, and to say so. It really irks me how BSN jumps on anybody who dares to voice their feelings on those romances, as if it were a moral taboo to do so.
Just to clarify, I think people are free to post whatever they want to post, provided that they aren't breaking board rules. My personal opinion is that, if Cullen and Solas were not LI's, there wouldn't have been outrage at the skewed ratio. That outrage just ramped up people's dislike of Cassandra and Josephine to create the perfect storm that we are currently dealing with, where at least one or two new "the straight male LI's are terrible/manly/ugly/etc." threads are created each day.
Would we still get people complaining about them? Sure. But I genuinely think that, if everyone had two option, we wouldn't see that outrage that we are seeing. That's just my personal opinion.
And, keep in mind that prior to DA: I being released, I was a huge proponent of them creating whatever romances they wanted, provided everyone got at least two options. I had no problems with some groups getting more than others, especially if they were going to mix up which group got more. But, frankly, the boards have been really tough to deal with lately and a lot of it has to do with the negativity that has come about because of the straight male LI's. Again, my opinion.
I don't think people would have been happy even with 10 or 100 options lol. That's because people are different and like different things which is okay.
I don't think lot of straight female players would have been happy in that case since Solas and Cullen are lot more popular than Blackwall and Iron Bull.
The idea of being stuck with Blackwall and Iron Bull as the only options for straight female PC's sounds really sh*tty lol.
LOL. Okay, so maybe that wouldn't have helped out! 
This is a great point. For a DA game, DA: I has a ton of romance options. ****, it's double what was in DA: O. An people still aren't happy. I think that this demonstrates that there's nothing that they can do to please everyone. To be honest, I kind of selfishly wish that they had never added in Cullen and Solas, so people wouldn't have this skewed vision of 'getting shafted' in their options. If everyone just had two options, then it would be much more obvious that people just don't like their choices, not that their choices are somehow inferior. Of course, that's easy to say, given that I've never played as a human or elf, so giving up Cullen and Solas is fairly painless for me.
The "mistake" was not to include the typical bad girl DA always had, from that perspective even making Blackwall a female would bring something of it, however I put quotes there because discussing what should and what shouldn't be in romance options is like putting the cart before the horse (which is the characters themselves and the story). Heck some people are just dissatisfied with how their options look.
The idea of being stuck with Blackwall and Iron Bull as the only options for straight female PC's sounds really sh*tty lol.
Single IQ for life crafting a chastity belt at the first opportunity.
Single IQ for life crafting a chastity belt at the first opportunity.
I can see it being a T3 schematic. 22 nugskin, 5 great bear, 3 dragon webbing hide and 15 silverite ftw.
I can see it being a T3 schematic. 22 nugskin, 5 great bear hide and 15 silverite.
yes, exactly!
As I wrote in a similiar thread, I'd rather see DLC that expanded on the existing romances instead of introducing new ones. None of the options appealed to me, there simply wasn't "my type" among them. Neither straight, bi or gay matters in that case... what I am looking for is an actual relationship and not 4 conversations, 3 cutscenes and 2 conversations/banter from the companions after. There's not enough content in any romance. Things don't change.
Why is your LI not moving into your chambers? Why do they never surprise you with anything? Why do you always have to initiate everything? Why does nothing change?
Oh... and the IB romance? BioWare -really- needs to get some writers who know what they are writing about. Holy crap, this is almost as wrong as 50 Shades of Grey.
Although my main beef with the DA:I romances might simply be that I can't related to any of the NPCs in game, because they are all so... meh. I don't know.
The "mistake" was not to include the typical bad girl DA always had, from that perspective even making Blackwall a female would bring something of it, however I put quotes there because discussing what should and what shouldn't be in romance options is like putting the cart before the horse (which is the characters themselves and the story). Heck some people are just dissatisfied with how their options look.
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+1 for a scout Harding romance! 
(including a sweet but goofy "Dance lesson" scene before the Winter Palace, because in my mind the inquisitor was a worse dancer than Commander Shepard before taking lessons)
Dave: Yeah, I agree. And I would also expect there to always be complaints, perhaps more, perhaps less.
Why people may not dislike Cassandra or Josephine, but may dislike, say, Blackwall and Iron Bull, is beyond me. I'm aware that there's nothing to be done now, but maybe everybody needs a cookie, hm?
Well, I can't say that the two pairs are exactly on equal footing here. While I can't really see too wrong with Iron Bull's persona, the fact that he's a big ass minotaur does present a bit of an obstacle for those who prefer the less beastly variety (that's putting aside the potentially off-putting sexually domineering stuff), and Blackwall's a total fraud that you have to bust out of prison in order to keep around.
Well, I can't say that the two pairs are exactly on equal footing here. While I can't really see a whole lot wrong with Iron Bull's persona, the fact that he's a big ass minotaur does present a bit of an obstacle for those who prefer the less beastly variety, and Blackwall's a total fraud that you have to bust out of prison in order to keep around.
LOL. Okay, so maybe that wouldn't have helped out!
Yep. I think the problem with having only Blackwall and Iron Bull would be that many players might not be comfortable with idea of BDSM and Blackwall's lying about who he is and being mercenary who has murdered children can be too much for them. I'd say Cullen is safest choice as LI for straight female characters.
Lace, please.
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