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One of the absolute worst endings I've played. Worse than ME 3.


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He's using the orb to brute force it, as it wasn't entirely shut. At that point he's pretty much lost all rationality (Which is why its a pretty poor ending sequence) and is just lashing out. The Anchor is needed to enter the Fade safely, hence the name, he's just gone mad because his last ditch alternative was stolen from his grasp. If he didn't need the Inquisitor's Anchor, he would have just ripped open the Breach or create a new one at any time. That's why he was looking for the Eluvian.
No, reread what I showed you, his explicit purpose in Haven is retrieving the Anchor, presumably not something a lackey could do. Corypheus doesn't reveal himself lightly, only when he has to and he didn't plan to leave witnesses.
Except that according to the lore, spirits find Tranquil no different than inanimate objects at best and outright repellent at worst. They explicitly lack any connection to the Fade. Normal non-mages have a greater connection to the Fade than they do. You're grasping at straws with that one.

Though that's a moot point since if being bodily cast into the Fade doesn't count as being "effected by magic" I don't know what does.

1. Nope. Even Solas said it was shut. And It make no sense to say sudden brute force is going to make it open the breach again if just mean to make the item to open the breach. At best you can say he only made the archor because using the orb directly would damage it.

2. Please, he only reveal himself when he thinks he's won. He wants everyone to know him and that he is a god. No way he would quietly kill the Divine and not let people know of him. He's only quit until he attacks.

3. Yet, the Seekers prove that wrong. The feels of the tranquil get the spirit to come but they must be tranquil first. That means they must be touched by magic first. 



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No, the explose was not. The explosion was a mistake and Solas would already know Cory can't die under normal terms. Cory would just body jump to the nearest blighted body.

 

The only confirmed mistake was the Inquisitor getting the Anchor, and there's no evidence that Solas knew anything about Corypheus' powers. If he did I find it highly implausible he would have given Cory free reign to use it without strings attached.



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The only confirmed mistake was the Inquisitor getting the Anchor, and there's no evidence that Solas knew anything about Corypheus' powers. If he did I find it highly implausible he would have given Cory free reign to use it without strings attached.

We do have evidence that Solas knew about Cory's power. Solas said it himself. And the quis made the orb explode by touching it.

Look at how Cory holds the orb at the time.  at 6:48.

 

And doing do did nothing. He did not even complete the sacrifice yet.



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We do have evidence that Solas knew about Cory's power. Solas said it himself. And the quis made the orb explode by touching it.

Look at how Cory holds the orb at the time.  at 6:48.

 

And doing do did nothing. He did not even complete the sacrifice yet.

 

He didn't make the orb explode by touching it or he'd be dead as well. He acquired the power that the ritual would've otherwise given Corypheus.

EDIT: and the only thing he explains is that the orb is elvhen and a foci used to channel magical energy, not that Corypheus is a darkspawn capable of surviving via his connection to the Red Lyrium dragon.



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1. Nope. Even Solas said it was shut. And It make no sense to say sudden brute force is going to make it open the breach again if just mean to make the item to open the breach. At best you can say he only made the archor because using the orb directly would damage it.

Sealed, but not gone. Solas says the heavens are still scarred. it is only after the Inquisitor uses the orb in conjunction with the Anchor that it is "healed... healthy, whole" as Cole puts it. The orb only became damaged when the inquisitor used it together with the Anchor, there's no reason to think using it alone would have damaged it. As Solas said, the orb is a Foci, its really just an immensely powerful magic battery as far as I can tell.

2. Please, he only reveal himself when he thinks he's won. He wants everyone to know him and that he is a god. No way he would quietly kill the Divine and not let people know of him. He's only quit until he attacks.

Except that is exactly what he does. Corypheus prefers to work through agents. Did he personally charge into the winter palace to murder Celene? No. Does he sic his Dragon on the Grey Wardens and demand their allegiance? No. Corypheus uses deception and subterfuge, acting indirectly through agents. He wants everyone to know that he's a god in the long run, but his primary concern is achieving that godhood. He knows that revealing himself only makes it harder for him to reach that throne he covets so much. He revealed himself at Haven because he needed the Anchor and the Inquisition had become a nuisance, not to show off.

3. Yet, the Seekers prove that wrong. The feels of the tranquil get the spirit to come but they must be tranquil first. That means they must be touched by magic first.

No, the spirits only come after the tranquil seekers have spent a full year in a solitary vigil, fasting, praying, and devoting all the intense concentration only a tranquil can achieve to thoughts of faith and Andraste. The tranquility helps them reach that state, but it is not what draws the spirit. It is the vigil, not the rite, that summons the spirit.
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He didn't make the orb explode by touching it or he'd be dead as well. He acquired the power that the ritual would've otherwise given Corypheus.

EDIT: and the only thing he explains is that the orb is elvhen and a foci used to channel magical energy, not that Corypheus is a darkspawn capable of surviving via his connection to the Red Lyrium dragon.

1.Not what I mean. You saying Solas thought if Cory handled the orb it would explode.  Cory holds on the orb the entire time and nothing happens. It only explodes once the quis has it. And it not even charge by the ritual Cory is doing yet.

2. I'm not taking about the meeting with Solas. I'm talking about what Solas said to Cassandra after the breach is closed. Before the atteck on Heaven happen Cassandra comes up and tells you that Solas says the breach is totally sealed and the only issue is the smaller fade openings.



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Sealed, but not gone. Solas says the heavens are still scarred. it is only after the Inquisitor uses the orb in conjunction with the Anchor that it is "healed... healthy, whole" as Cole puts it. The orb only became damaged when the inquisitor used it together with the Anchor, there's no reason to think using it alone would have damaged it. As Solas said, the orb is a Foci, its really just an immensely powerful magic battery as far as I can tell.
Except that is exactly what he does. Corypheus prefers to work through agents. Did he personally charge into the winter palace to murder Celene? No. Does he sic his Dragon on the Grey Wardens and demand their allegiance? No. Corypheus uses deception and subterfuge, acting indirectly through agents. He wants everyone to know that he's a god in the long run, but his primary concern is achieving that godhood. He knows that revealing himself only makes it harder for him to reach that throne he covets so much. He revealed himself at Haven because he needed the Anchor and the Inquisition had become a nuisance, not to show off.
No, the spirits only come after the tranquil seekers have spent a full year in a solitary vigil, fasting, praying, and devoting all the intense concentration only a tranquil can achieve to thoughts of faith and Andraste. The tranquility helps them reach that state, but it is not what draws the spirit. It is the vigil, not the rite, that summons the spirit.

1. Not want I mean. By any account the veil can open not matter how it's close. It is artificial. My point is not that it can't reopen. It's that it need a spacificl power to be open. It's no longer so weak it easily reopen. Any part of the veil can be open by force. It that he used the orb to do it.

 

2.No that's not what he's doing. Heaven would not of happen the way it did if he was trying to hide  himself. The entire point was to get the archor back, destroy the competition, and show how powerful he is. His actions for him to work in stealth till he strikes. Once he strikes he let everyone knows who he is.

 

3. It matter not when the spirit comes. The point is before anything can happen the Seeker must be touched by magic first. If it were a case a tranquil could not attrack a spirit then no seekers would not exist. They would not draw a spirit no matter how long it took.

 The fact remain they must be effected by magic first. No one is effect by a spirit  with out being effected by magic first.



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1.Not what I mean. You saying Solas thought if Cory handled the orb it would explode.  Cory holds on the orb the entire time and nothing happens. It only explodes once the quis has it. And it not even charge by the ritual Cory is doing yet.

2. I'm not taking about the meeting with Solas. I'm talking about what Solas said to Cassandra after the breach is closed. Before the atteck on Heaven happen Cassandra comes up and tells you that Solas says the breach is totally sealed and the only issue is the smaller fade openings.

 

Not what I said. I said the energy unleased from the orb could possibly cause an explosion that would kill someone, and as has been said already, the orb isn't exploding in that video. The energy unleased by the foci is imparting the Anchor onto the Inquisitor.

 

Your second point doesn't show that Solas knew anything about Corypheus' nature, which is what I was talking about, and thus is a non-issue here.



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Not what I said. I said the energy unleased from the orb could possibly cause an explosion that would kill someone, and as has been said already, the orb isn't exploding in that video. The energy unleased by the foci is imparting the Anchor onto the Inquisitor.

 

Your second point doesn't show that Solas knew anything about Corypheus' nature, which is what I was talking about, and thus is a non-issue here.

1.Then you not getting what I'm saying. I'm saying if the energy of apply the archor did that then your missing one detail. The ritual of using the divines life was not completed. If a sacrifice is needed to make an archor then why did the orb make one without a sacrifice made. And of course the orb made the explosion. It's called cause and effect. That's like saying bombs don't make explosions, the energy release form bombs make the  explosions.

2. Sorry,I put that in the wrong conversation. Solas is shown Cory's abilities in the epilogue.



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1. Use the characters logic and feeling togather what they would do. Not your own or logic in general. Cory is not one to cover up what he is doing. He only uses stealth uptill the time he attacks once done he want everyone to know he did it for recognition of his god hood. If it were all about making sure know one knows about him and his actions he would never attacked Heaven the way he did.

You're reinforcing my position here. I agree that that's how he works. So if we don't know about his involvement somewhere, that he is subtle for a purpose. It's like Halamshiral where he uses his allies to assassinate Celene and put the blame on Gaspard. Cory is all about making a statement (like in Haven) but it doesn't mean that he's above using subtlety to watch his enemies squirm and fight each other preparing way for his glorious victory.
 

2.You don't have to be a mage to use magic. Example: enchantment magic. That requires magic via lyrium. And guess what need to become tranquil...Lyrium.
3.That was all gone since dao when the ashes were moved.
4.That's not an assumption. That's what literaly happened. This was shown to you in the fade. You're not getting the explosion was a mistake?
5.The point is not which spirits are drawn but which of the spirit drawn are the most powerful. The most powerful draw away the weaker one. This is a fact from the time Hawke went to the fade in da2. And we all know which spirit/demon is the most powerful....Nightmare.

Ashes were there for almost a millenium. Then they were gone for ten years. Think about it. And I don't say the explosion was planned - killing Divine in a magical ritual was. Perhaps getting a couple demons in in the process.
And Nightmare wouldn't have anything to do with the Summit, really, he's Fear of the Blight above anything else, fears associated with Summit weren't really his thing. Also, do you remember Magi Origin in DA:O? We had a Valor, a Sloth, some unusually smart Rage and, it seems, a Pride, sitting pretty much on top of each other. The fact that Spirits tend to get territorial sometimes doesn't mean that places and people can't draw in many kinds. How would you otherwise explain a Compassion spirit in the place where Cole found Cole? You think part of the Fade connected to that dungeon wasn't more suited for Fear or Rage demons?

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You're reinforcing my position here. I agree that that's how he works. So if we don't know about his involvement somewhere, that he is subtle for a purpose. It's like Halamshiral where he uses his allies to assassinate Celene and put the blame on Gaspard. Cory is all about making a statement (like in Haven) but it doesn't mean that he's above using subtlety to watch his enemies squirm and fight each other preparing way for his glorious victory.
 
Ashes were there for almost a millenium. Then they were gone for ten years. Think about it. And I don't say the explosion was planned - killing Divine in a magical ritual was. Perhaps getting a couple demons in in the process.
And Nightmare wouldn't have anything to do with the Summit, really, he's Fear of the Blight above anything else, fears associated with Summit weren't really his thing. Also, do you remember Magi Origin in DA:O? We had a Valor, a Sloth, some unusually smart Rage and, it seems, a Pride, sitting pretty much on top of each other. The fact that Spirits tend to get territorial sometimes doesn't mean that places and people can't draw in many kinds. How would you otherwise explain a Compassion spirit in the place where Cole found Cole? You think part of the Fade connected to that dungeon wasn't more suited for Fear or Rage demons?

1. He only does that to get them to fight one another and to distract. He does not need that with the Chantry. In fact it would be better for him because it distracts everyone from the demon army he is building in the western approach.

 

2.Yes in those ten years all the mystical stuff id gone. No more trails, no more test, no more guardian spirits.  The fact remain that all of it is gone byt eh time the chantry found it. and It took a year. And no Nightmare does not fear the blight. He's indirectly empowered by it. And by the fact it shown the quis and the divine got directly to his realm when the explosion happens. And you need to play the fade part of da2 again. It's made a point the stronger spirits scare weaker ones away



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1. Not want I mean. By any account the veil can open not matter how it's close. It is artificial. My point is not that it can't reopen. It's that it need a spacificl power to be open. It's no longer so weak it easily reopen. Any part of the veil can be open by force. It that he used the orb to do it.

Not sure what you're trying to say. You claim it needs a specific power to open, but there's no proof raw power won't work. Corypheus and his Foci are simply the only things with enough raw power to exploit the sealed Breach forcefully (not to mention the only one crazy enough to do that in the end). The Breach required a great deal of energy to seal. Of course it would require great energy to rip open again. And it required just as much energy to finally heal completely (Anchor+Orb)
 

2.No that's not what he's doing. Heaven would not of happen the way it did if he was trying to hide  himself. The entire point was to get the archor back, destroy the competition, and show how powerful he is. His actions for him to work in stealth till he strikes. Once he strikes he let everyone knows who he is.

You're right that its about getting the Anchor back and crushing the Inquisition. Yes, he announces himself, but not to everyone, only to the Inquisitor he is planning on killing imminently. Its not about showing off.
 

3. It matter not when the spirit comes. The point is before anything can happen the Seeker must be touched by magic first. If it were a case a tranquil could not attrack a spirit then no seekers would not exist. They would not draw a spirit no matter how long it took.
 The fact remain they must be effected by magic first. No one is effect by a spirit  with out being effected by magic first.

And as I've said, the lore is quite unambiguous on this. The tranquil have even less connection to the Fade than dwarves. You're literally trying to say that a mage's connection to magic is somehow the same as a Tranquil's total lack of magic. Tranquility helps them achieve the intensity of concentration they need to draw the spirit forth.  Faith summons the spirit, not a magical connection.

 

And like I also said, that Justinia is neither a mage nor tranquil is a bit of a moot point considering she has physically entered the Fade.  She's practically swimming in magic.



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1. He only does that to get them to fight one another and to distract. He does not need that with the Chantry. In fact it would be better for him because it distracts everyone from the demon army he is building in the western approach.

 Yeah, sure, enemies united against him would be so beneficial for him. Definitely. Do you even read what you post?...

2.Yes in those ten years all the mystical stuff id gone. No more trails, no more test, no more guardian spirits.  The fact remain that all of it is gone byt eh time the chantry found it. and It took a year. And no Nightmare does not fear the blight. He's indirectly empowered by it. And by the fact it shown the quis and the divine got directly to his realm when the explosion happens. And you need to play the fade part of da2 again. It's made a point the stronger spirits scare weaker ones away

And how long does it take for weakened veil to become strong again? When veil is weakened, it tends to stay weakened for centuries... Also, You need to play again through the Harrowing; that and you could notice the fact that even if you encounter only demons somewhere, they are often of wildly different kinds. Spirits may try to establish their own pockets of Fade reality, but that doesn't change the fact that we KNOW that spirits not exactly fitting the local theme do show up (we even have one in our party through the majority of Inquisition).
Also also, where did the part about being in Nightmare domain come from? Is that another of your baseless assumptions or is it actually stated somewhere?

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1.Then you not getting what I'm saying. I'm saying if the energy of apply the archor did that then your missing one detail. The ritual of using the divines life was not completed. If a sacrifice is needed to make an archor then why did the orb make one without a sacrifice made. And of course the orb made the explosion. It's called cause and effect. That's like saying bombs don't make explosions, the energy release form bombs make the  explosions.

2. Sorry,I put that in the wrong conversation. Solas is shown Cory's abilities in the epilogue.

 

No one saying the orb didn't make the explosion. I'm saying it didn't happen when the Inquisitor was there but after the fact. Secondly, we don't know the nature of the ritual, and he may very well have been trying to do something else, likely use the Anchor to enter the Fade physically. Instead, the Inquisitor and Justinia entered the Fade when Quizzy gained control of it accidentally.



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Not sure what you're trying to say. You claim it needs a specific power to open, but there's no proof raw power won't work. Corypheus and his Foci are simply the only things with enough raw power to exploit the sealed Breach forcefully (not to mention the only one crazy enough to do that in the end). The Breach required a great deal of energy to seal. Of course it would require great energy to rip open again. And it required just as much energy to finally heal completely (Anchor+Orb)
 

You're right that its about getting the Anchor back and crushing the Inquisition. Yes, he announces himself, but not to everyone, only to the Inquisitor he is planning on killing imminently. Its not about showing off.
 

And as I've said, the lore is quite unambiguous on this. The tranquil have even less connection to the Fade than dwarves. You're literally trying to say that a mage's connection to magic is somehow the same as a Tranquil's total lack of magic. Tranquility helps them achieve the intensity of concentration they need to draw the spirit forth.  Faith summons the spirit, not a magical connection.

 

And like I also said, that Justinia is neither a mage nor tranquil is a bit of a moot point considering she has physically entered the Fade.  She's practically swimming in magic.

1. Sorry but the fact that the only time it was show to be able to open to a massive amount of blood sacrifices show you can't power your way into the fade.

If Cory could do that he would not need the orb or the mirrior in the Amber wilds.

 

2.His crushing of the inquisition is his announcement to the world. You don't subtly destroy an entire army. The fact the entire army of the inquisition is gone would being people notice.

3.It's not ambigoius. You being told by the person who took part of it. This is not a maybe or a warped perspective. The only way to prove you point is to show someone who was never touched by magic draw a spirit. Both Cassy and Wynne are touched by magi one way or another. You can't use them to support your case.



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No one saying the orb didn't make the explosion. I'm saying it didn't happen when the Inquisitor was there but after the fact. Secondly, we don't know the nature of the ritual, and he may very well have been trying to do something else, likely use the Anchor to enter the Fade physically. Instead, the Inquisitor and Justinia entered the Fade when Quizzy gained control of it accidentally.

1. He was trying to get into the fade physically. That was the point.

2. He was not using it for something else.

 

My point is people are saying a sacrifice was need to get orb unlocked. Yet the quis unlocked it with out anyone sacrifice. I'm saying anyone who thinks a sacrifice is need to unlock the orb is jumping to assumptions. If a random guy can unlock like the quis then that would mean there is something more need and is going on for Cory and Solas' goal. Solas says he need power to unlock the orb and Cory had it. Yet Cory is using a sacrifice for that power but to what? We see that it's already unlocked when the quis picks it up. That would mean something more is needed and it's power based. No average person would naturally have that power. So it would seem they need some one with a specific power to enhance the orb not a random sacrifice.

 

What I'm saying Justina was going to be sacrifice because of something that made her unique not that she was divine.



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3.It's not ambigoius. You being told by the person who took part of it. This is not a maybe or a warped perspective. The only way to prove you point is to show someone who was never touched by magic draw a spirit. Both Cassy and Wynne are touched by magi one way or another. You can't use them to support your case.

I'm not sure why you keep defending the lore-defying claim of Tranquil being somehow more visible for spirits than normal dreamers, but the point is that it really has no bearing on situation of Justinia. She got sucked into Fade physically. You really can't get more Fade presence than this. If dreamers are somewhat visible to spirits and mages shine brightly then a person physically in the Fade is likely a goddamned lighthouse in comparison.

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What I'm saying Justina was going to be sacrifice because of something that made her unique not that she was divine.

We know what you're saying. But you have nothing but your assumptions to back it up.

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ME3 was the end of the trilogy,this is not,the ending is on par with ME  and ME2



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 Yeah, sure, enemies united against him would be so beneficial for him. Definitely. Do you even read what you post?...

And how long does it take for weakened veil to become strong again? When veil is weakened, it tends to stay weakened for centuries... Also, You need to play again through the Harrowing; that and you could notice the fact that even if you encounter only demons somewhere, they are often of wildly different kinds. Spirits may try to establish their own pockets of Fade reality, but that doesn't change the fact that we KNOW that spirits not exactly fitting the local theme do show up (we even have one in our party through the majority of Inquisition).
Also also, where did the part about being in Nightmare domain come from? Is that another of your baseless assumptions or is it actually stated somewhere?

1. Please, the only way any of his enemies would unite against him is if they stop being paranoid with each other. The mages and templer fear each other too much to unite to fight him and we being manipulated into his own army. Celene and Gaspard were too distracted with one another to unite to fight Cory so much that they could not see the dagger in there backs. And Chantry has no army. Everyone is too scattered to be a threat. The only time they united was with the lead of the quis. We see this first hand in the furture quest with the mages. No one is ready to face him with out the quis there to lead them. It would be the same case if Cory's planned did not fail in the conclave.

 

2.It matter not. None of the mistical thing that were there are present anymore. And even if we do know spirit do show up it only under unique conditions. Heck, Cole only shows up because he went to a place that he though would protect the world from him.

And we know it's night mares domain because the quis was being chased by spiders at the start of the game. Nightmare even took your memories.



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We know what you're saying. But you have nothing but your assumptions to back it up.

No. I have the fact that events on had shows that a random sacrifice is needed makes no sense.

1.If a sacrifice is need to unlock the orb, why is the quis able to make an archor before the sacrifice is even sacrificed. That would mean the orb is unlocked already.

 

2.Added on the last time someone walked into the fade, kirkwall had to be made just to do all the massive blood sacrifices to power it. Why would one do now? On top of point 1.

 

It makes no sense the divine was sacrifice for just being the divine and the disruption of the chantry. There has to be more to it then that. The issue with the orb is power. How is one person being sacrifice going to supply that power when an entire city of slaves were need for that last time and Cory already unlocked the orb.



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1. Sorry but the fact that the only time it was show to be able to open to a massive amount of blood sacrifices show you can't power your way into the fade.
If Cory could do that he would not need the orb or the mirrior in the Amber wilds.

Actually, all those blood sacrifices prove that entering the Fade physically can be forced, just not safely. That's what the Anchor was for. He was only trying to force it at the end as sort of a last gasp lash out at the world. He completely lost it.
 

2.His crushing of the inquisition is his announcement to the world. You don't subtly destroy an entire army. The fact the entire army of the inquisition is gone would being people notice.

The Inquisition is based in a remote mountain village far from any other civilization. Corypheus and his forces could be long gone by the time any outside forces noticed. He was only revealed because the Inquisition managed to evacuate through a secret path.

3.It's not ambigoius. You being told by the person who took part of it. This is not a maybe or a warped perspective. The only way to prove you point is to show someone who was never touched by magic draw a spirit. Both Cassy and Wynne are touched by magi one way or another. You can't use them to support your case.

I have, the tranquil are entirely divorced from magic, that's sort of the whole point of them.  The tranquil are not touched by magic, magic plays no role in attracting the spirits to seekers, that's why the only other known tranquil to touch a spirit had to have a demon forcibly stuffed inside him to do it.  That's the lore.  On the contrary, the burden of proof is on you to show that tranquil have a connection to magic.  The lyrium brand you keep pointing to severs magic, it does not grant it.  You have to prove it does something else.


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I'm not sure why you keep defending the lore-defying claim of Tranquil being somehow more visible for spirits than normal dreamers, 

The lore says the opposite.

 but the point is that it really has no bearing on situation of Justinia. She got sucked into Fade physically. You really can't get more Fade presence than this. If dreamers are somewhat visible to spirits and mages shine brightly then a person physically in the Fade is likely a goddamned lighthouse in comparison.

She sucked into the part of the fade control by the most powerful demon ever. How is a spirit getting there with out being corrupted?



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Actually, all those blood sacrifices prove that entering the Fade physically can be forced, just not safely. That's what the Anchor was for. He was only trying to force it at the end as sort of a last gasp lash out at the world. He completely lost it.
 

The Inquisition is based in a remote mountain village far from any other civilization. Corypheus and his forces could be long gone by the time any outside forces noticed. He was only revealed because the Inquisition managed to evacuate through a secret path.

I have, the tranquil are entirely divorced from magic, that's sort of the whole point of them.  The tranquil are not touched by magic, magic plays no role in attracting the spirits to seekers, that's why the only other known tranquil to touch a spirit had to have a demon forcibly stuffed inside him to do it.  That's the lore.  On the contrary, the burden of proof is on you to show that tranquil have a connection to magic.  The lyrium brand you keep pointing to severs magic, it does not grant it.  You have to prove it does something else.

1. Nope. Remember. The magester were helped by the old gods. It was not blind powering into the fade. The build kirkwall in a specific way just to make the rune for the ritual.

 

2.Nope. Not with how easy one can get to val royeaux and the hinterlands. In fact, Roderick goes back a forth from Heaven to val royeaux and back with ease.

 

3.No. They are just disconnected from the fade. They are instead connected to something different now....To LyuIm. Cole and DAGNA tells you this.  And Lyrium is magic. Try again.



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1. Nope. Remember. The magester were helped by the old gods. It was not blind powering into the fade. The build kirkwall in a specific way just to make the rune for the ritual.

They were supposedly directed by the Old Gods. There certainly isn't any proof that the Old Gods had an active hand in the ritual. As for kirkwall, there's nothing linking it's design to the magister's ritual. Just about everything you just said is unconfirmed guesswork.
 

2.Nope. Not with how easy one can get to val royeaux and the hinterlands. In fact, Roderick goes back a forth from Heaven to val royeaux and back with ease.

By ease, do you mean several days of travel down mountains and across largely deserted land to reach the nearest town? haven is described as remote even within the game itself. Josephine complains about it.
 

3.No. They are just disconnected from the fade. They are instead connected to something different now....To LyuIm. Cole and DAGNA tells you this.  And Lyrium is magic. Try again.

Cole and Dagna say nothing of the sort. Lyrium is magic but the tranquil are not connected to it in some special way. Everything we learned from the games tells us that spirits find Tranquil undesirable. Why are you resisting that? How is it that normal people, who are still connected to the Fade, are less likely to attract spirits than the one group we know spirits find unappealing.