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One of the absolute worst endings I've played. Worse than ME 3.


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#151
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They're not going to ever get anywhere if they don't try. They can't settle on a 2/10 because they're afraid to gamble and risk a 1/10.

Except we're not talking 1/10 or 2/10.  DAI may not have been inspired, but it's not really bad.  It's a solid 5 at least.  And after ME3, I think that's worth settling for.


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But he is mundane. He's a Tevinter magister called Sethius Amladaris who tried to attain godhood and got corrupted.  His faith was shattered so he tried to become a god himself to champion withered Tevinter etc..  His powers may have been amplified for some reason but he's nothing close to a deity.

He is borderline immortal, he wields power through the DA Universe's equivalent of ultimate evil, he has defied what is "possible", there is very little mundane about him at all



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He is borderline immortal, he wields power through the DA Universe's equivalent of ultimate evil, he has defied what is "possible", there is very little mundane about him at all

Too bad he let it all go to his head and let himself get punked by an uppity soporati. 



#154
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He is borderline immortal, he wields power through the DA Universe's equivalent of ultimate evil, he has defied what is "possible", there is very little mundane about him at all

Don't forget he's also wielding an ancient elven artifact that let's him go Beyond the Impossible as well.



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He is borderline immortal, he wields power through the DA Universe's equivalent of ultimate evil, he has defied what is "possible", there is very little mundane about him at all

 

He was immortal via adapting an ancient elven technique used to hop between tagged bodies by binding his life force to a dragon. 

The powers he had were ultimately amplified by the ancient elven orb. That's how he opened the Breach.

 

He's a really powerful and arrogant magister but that's all he is. 



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Good gods, you have me sounding like

 

 

HIM



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He was immortal via adapting an ancient elven technique used to hop between bodies by binding their life force to a dragon. 

The powers he had were ultimately amplified by the ancient elven orb. That's how he opened the Breach.

 

He's a really powerful magister but that's all he is.

He is well beyond a magister.

 

Alexius is a powerful magister, he can unravel time.  Corypheus is on a whole new level because of the Blight.  He is no more mundane than Andraste or Flemeth



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Except we're not talking 1/10 or 2/10.  DAI may not have been inspired, but it's not really bad.  It's a solid 5 at least.  And after ME3, I think that's worth settling for.

 

If BioWare was interested in going down that route, there's no point in them even having conflicts and antagonists at all. They may as well just have games that consist of 'talk to your friends about stuff' for 50 hours.

 

Yes, it's really bad.



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Good gods, you have me sounding like

 

 

HIM

 

This HIM?
 

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He is well beyond a magister.

 

Alexius is a powerful magister, he can unravel time.  Corypheus is on a whole new level because of the Blight.  He is no more mundane than Andraste or Flemeth

He is very powerful, but not so powerful that he can overcome his very human flaws.


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#161
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This HIM?
 

*snip*

Nah, that's only a gender muddled anthropomorphized version of Satan

 

I speak of something far worse

 

 

 

 

I of course speak of David7204



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Lebanese Dude

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He is well beyond a magister.

 

Alexius is a powerful magister, he can unravel time.  Corypheus is on a whole new level because of the Blight.  He is no more mundane than Andraste or Flemeth

 

Ok fair enough. You are correct that "mundane" isn't a good adjective to use.

 

Still, until we learn more about the truth of the Elven pantheon, I'd venture to say that he's no more powerful than they are and they're likely not deities at all.



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Nah, that's only a gender muddled anthropomorphized version of Satan

 

I speak of something far worse

 

 

 

 

I of course speak of David7204

 

Ha!



#164
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He is very powerful, but not so powerful that he can overcome his very human flaws.

Being a demigod doesn't make you immune to human failings, just look at the entire pantheons of the Greeks/Romans/Norse/Egyptians/Inca/Aztecs/Celts etc...


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It's a shame too because there were times when Corypheus should have gained the upper hand on us in the story

 

Definitely. The attack on Haven could have been more devastating, and been better for it. The temple of mythal could have felt more urgent, and been better for it. There was really only one moment in the game where it really felt like Corypheus had the upper hand to me. 


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#166
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Nothing's worse than an ending that fails to even make an attempt to say anything meaningful about the central conflict, the fundamental core of the story.

I think you're applying standards somewhat willy-nilly. A story just needs to be entertaining. All this other stuff you're describing is interesting, but not really necessary.

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I think you're applying standards somewhat willy-nilly. A story just needs to be entertaining. All this other stuff you're describing is interesting, but not really necessary.

its the difference between The Iliad and Fifty Shades of Gray



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Definitely. The attack on Haven could have been more devastating, 

The entire base was destroyed and you barely escaped. How more devastating can it get? 



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The entire base was destroyed. How more devastating can it get? 

ten minutes later you discover an abandoned badass castle, everybody loves you, and whatnot

 

killing off a squadmate might be called for


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ten minutes later you discover an abandoned badass castle, everybody loves you, and whatnot

 

killing off a squadmate might be called for

Virmire style?

 

 

Roderick dies :(



#171
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The antagonist in stories is very often a great deal weaker than the protagonist. There still needs to be a climax. You still can't have the protagonist just kill him with no struggles or challenges.

But you didn't Kill Cory with out any struggle or Challenges. The entire game was that.



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Definitely. The attack on Haven could have been more devastating, and been better for it. The temple of mythal could have felt more urgent, and been better for it. There was really only one moment in the game where it really felt like Corypheus had the upper hand to me. 

 

Haven I thought was done well, it's after that when his army starts to fumble because "video game logic"



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I think you're applying standards somewhat willy-nilly. A story just needs to be entertaining. All this other stuff you're describing is interesting, but not really necessary.

 

If BioWare wants to make masterpieces or anything close to them and continue to generally be considered a company with a strong focus on good writing, it's absolutely necessary.
 

There are plenty of developers of both video games and other mediums that don't bother with this sort of thing and make mediocre stories at best because of it. Does the world really need one more of them? And one less company that tries to understand and implement these fundamentals?



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ten minutes later you discover an abandoned badass castle, everybody loves you, and whatnot

 

killing off a squadmate might be called for

So. It does not mean you did not go through the darkest hour.



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The entire base was destroyed and you barely escaped. How more devastating can it get? 

 

It's not really concrete numerical losses I'm getting at, but a sense of tension and desperation. 

 

If I'm using Mass Effect as a comparison, Inquisition lacks as much of a sense drama when it comes to that defeat.


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