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#151
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Yeah, agreed.  And it's a shame because Aveline, Isabela, and Carver are some of my favorite companions in the series, so it's a shame that (with the introduction of the Keep), I'll probably never play that game again.

I was pretty pissed when I lost Bethany due to bad story writing. She was my go to mage and I had to scramble to replace her with a mage I don't like. (Screw Anders for obvious reasons.)

 

But all this is off topic. Point is yes race choices do matter for a franchise who started with making a point of diversity in characters. 


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Was a nice touch, a shame that there were not much armour designs for races besides human...



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Worth it. When given the option, I do not play human in games. I'm a human in real life, why would I want to be one in game?

I also don't give a damn about armor or hairstyles. To my - apparently barbaric - eyes, they have plenty of variety. Besides, I'd trade hair and armor (which are purely cosmetic and can easily be expanded on in later titles or dlc) for races (which have story impact) any day of the week.

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Worth it. When given the option, I do not play human in games. I'm a human in real life, why would I want to be one in game?

I also don't give a damn about armor or hairstyles. To my - apparently barbaric - eyes, they have plenty of variety. Besides, I'd trade hair and armor (which are purely cosmetic and can easily be expanded on in later titles or dlc) for races (which have story impact) any day of the week.

Hinestly the Quninari need better hair styles. They are a bit bland as is if you don't want horns.



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Hinestly the Quninari need better hair styles. They are a bit bland as is if you don't want horns.


Per my avatar, I've played as a qunari. Still don't give a damn about hair. More power to you if you want more, but personally I just don't care if I have 1 hairstyle or 20.

For me, the race option is more important than any number of hair or armor options.

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Per my avatar, I've played as a qunari. Still don't give a damn about hair. More power to you if you want more, but personally I just don't care if I have 1 hairstyle or 20.

For me, the race option is more important than any number of hair or armor options.

That is important, but if I want a Quinari similar in nature to Sten; i'd hate to have giant dents in my head as if I sawed my horns off ya know?



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Felt tacked on to me.

Quite literally.

 

I  was a staunch advocate of the idea of multiple races back in the day. In retrospect, I feel those resources and manpower put into the additional races would have been better spent creating a significantly deeper experience for a human Inquisitor, as was originally intended. 

 

Human is still the best race narrative-wise, but imagine what could have been without the extra races...


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Quite literally.

 

I  was a staunch advocate of the idea of multiple races back in the day. In retrospect, I feel those resources and manpower put into the additional races would have been better spent creating a significantly deep experience for a human Inquisitor, as was originally intended. 

 

Human is still the best race narrative-wise, but imagine what could have been without the extra races...

Have you played as an elf yet?



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Have you played as an elf yet?

Yup, my last playthrough in fact.

 

I enjoyed it, but I didn't feel nearly as authoritative as I was as a human. Something felt missing somehow.



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Human is still the best race narrative-wise, but imagine what could have been without the extra races...

I find Trevelyan dull as a board. Lavellan makes a much more interesting Inquisitor.

So obviously, there are opinions here.
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Yup, my last playthrough in fact.

 

I enjoyed it, but I didn't feel nearly as authoritative as I was as a human. Something felt missing somehow.

What?Sorry but all races are equally authoritative. What could they do to do that?



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Quite literally.

 

I  was a staunch advocate of the idea of multiple races back in the day. In retrospect, I feel those resources and manpower put into the additional races would have been better spent creating a significantly deep experience for a human Inquisitor, as was originally intended. 

 

Human is still the best race narrative-wise, but imagine what could have been without the extra races...

Opinion, I still wouldn't have bought the game if they did that I personally find human noble the dullest origin in the game and narrative wise as well. Pretty much you are accepted everywhere and its pretty much standard noble dialogue every where else when people talk about it. 

 

The only interesting thing was that you have Tevinter relations in my opinion. 


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I find Trevelyan dull as a board. Lavellan makes a much more interesting Inquisitor.

So obviously, there are opinions here.

 

I agree, it's all our opinions however, but I can't agree with those who wanted it to be only humans.

 

 

Opinion, I still wouldn't have bought the game if they did that I personally find human noble the dullest origin in the game and narrative wise as well. Pretty much you are accepted everywhere and its pretty much standard noble dialogue every where else when people talk about it. 

 

The only interesting thing was that you have Tevinter relations in my opinion. 

 

Hey if we had made that human choice a Tevinter it really would have stirred the pot a bit. More interesting too in my opinion. 



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Opinion, I still wouldn't have bought the game if they did that I personally find human noble the dullest origin in the game and narrative wise as well. Pretty much you are accepted everywhere and its pretty much standard noble dialogue every where else when people talk about it. 

 

The only interesting thing was that you have Tevinter relations in my opinion. 

Yep.



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That all sounds well and good, however the sense that I'm gleaning when people talk about the Inquisitor is that if they are human, they mostly seem ignorant of their culture and ask inane questions they should already know. They've been described as humans in (insert race here)'s bodies.

So I ask if it's really like that for those of you who choose dwarf and qunari, since I hear elves get really impactful in the last half, especially we a Solas romance.

There could be improvements of course, but it's still worlds better than being stuck as human. Some of the questions you can ask are much better than others, for example when an elf inquisitor asks Solas "tell me about the Dalish" the Dalish inquisitor says something like "are the other clans you've met like my clan?" instead of "what are the Dalish?" In the temple of Mythal however I've heard there is an option to ask "who is Mythal?" which is especially cringe-worthy if you're wearing her vallaslin. I never picked that though. It reminds me of a mage warden in DA:O asking Alistair "what is a templar?" :pinched:



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nope they were a waste of resources and felt tacked on
at least with the warden it made sense lore wise (most of the time)

The herald of andraste being a dwarf or qunari is a complete joke
they should have focused on human only maybe then the inquisitor wouldn't be so bland
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nope they were a waste of resources and felt tacked on
at least with the warden it made sense lore wise (most of the time)

The herald of andraste being a dwarf or qunari is a complete joke

No it's not.



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What?Sorry but all races are equally authoritative. What could they do to do that?

My impression is since the story was originally written with a human in mind, human Inquisitors tend to be the most fitting from a narrative perspective. Everything between attending the Conclave, becoming the Herald of Andraste, and partaking in the Game feels genuinely more organic with a human Inquisitor.

 

It's opinion, I won't deny that. But it's one that appears to be shared by many.


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No it's not.


yes it is it makes no sense at all that in a place like thedas a dwarf or qunari or elf would be allowed to lead such a big army and have so much influence its just ridiculous

also no one would think they are the herald of andraste they would lock them up

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I share the opinion that they feel tacked on (elves to a much lesser extent in this story), but seeing as how I can avoid them entirely if I have an issue, it doesn't really matter.



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My impression is since the story was originally written with a human in mind, human Inquisitors tend to be the most fitting from a narrative perspective. Everything between attending the Conclave, becoming the Herald of Andraste, and partaking in the Game feels genuinely more organic with a human Inquisitor.

 

It's opinion, I won't deny that. But it's one that appears to be shared by many.

There is truth to this. But I think human and elven are working equally well with the story. Dwarf and especially Qunari felt a little tacked on (Qunari being the last added, it's no wonder).



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I would not trade the ability to play as a lady qunari for anything. I know it's not much when compared to, say, sexuality, but personal representation as a tall woman in an RPG who is actually recognized as being tall is wonderful.

yes it is it makes no sense at all that in a place like thedas a dwarf or qunari or elf would be allowed to lead such a big army and have so much influence its just ridiculous

also no one would think they are the herald of andraste they would lock them up


There are many, many, many, many other complaints of implausibility to level at the game. Perhaps you should start with those, instead of focusing on the one that allows people to roleplay as they choose.

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Opinion, I still wouldn't have bought the game if they did that I personally find human noble the dullest origin in the game and narrative wise as well. Pretty much you are accepted everywhere and its pretty much standard noble dialogue every where else when people talk about it.

The only interesting thing was that you have Tevinter relations in my opinion.


surprised to see so many people here that are anti human
I always though ca. 90% of the players played as a human

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Race selection rendered the inquisitors back story inconsequential, How can the PC experience character development if they have no personal investment in the story? 

 

We could have had some cool stuff involving Trevelyan's noble house, like what does it mean for the future of a family when a member is marked as Holy? What kinda politics does it involve? What if my family becomes a target?

 

Instead we got this cookie cutter "One Chosen One fits all" plot where the players background means jack ****. 

 

Special snow flake protagonists drive me up the ****** wall, the PC's race should be what makes the most sense for the plot.

 

The leader the inquisition, an arm of the Orlesan Chantry should be Human. Seeing as we are dealing with the religion that is central to human culture in two countries where humans are in charge

 

The notion of A qunari Inquisitor is ridiculous, they should have been lynched.  


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surprised to see so many people here that are anti human

 

Considering that the internet is only 30-40% human, why should this be a shock to anyone?


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