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No fetch quests in Witcher 3, how will that compare to DAI?
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#151
Posté 10 février 2015 - 01:28
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Indeed. Colon left parentheses.
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Posté 10 février 2015 - 06:28
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Quoted for good measure. Some posts here are feeding on other posts in this thread which are unbased. Heck, even in the part quoted by CDPR, they specifically say, “When we do have these situations, which is rarely, we compensate for it with the narrative,”. The actual source admits to having some degree of fetch quests, but that they try to beautify them. Where are you guys getting that CDPR are boasting no fetch quests at all?
People don't have to go through entire threads just to make one post, but at least read the original post with some minimal attention, c'mon.
I'm not sure what's a dick move here. I googled the paragraph quoted, and it's from an article from May 1, 2014. Needless to say, Inquisition wasn't even out yet. And throughout the entire article, there's no comparison to Dragon Age. The only time it's mentioned is at the end, where the writer of the article says that since it's still far away, this is CDPR's time to shine.
http://www.pcgamer.c...ith-36-endings/
So like the "no fetch quests at all" claim is falsely attributed to CDPR, so is this comparison to DA. At least, not from this article.
This isn't to say there aren't ever any mentions on CDPR's behalf of Skyrim or DA. I remember them referring to those games here and there, but usually as a passing comment in an interview, and never in a "these games suck" sort of way, but more of a "they're great, we love them, but this is what we want to do differently". I don't have a source, though, so could be that I'm imagining it.
I'm not seeing any dick moves, and personally I think finding offense at these very mellow mentions CDPR occasionally does is being ultra-sensitive. Especially since they're, I believe, not some controversial matter. If the Reds would have brought DA up to start some gender war, that would have been a dick move (pun intended) and ugly. That's an issue where people have different preferences, and statements that basically mean "your preferences suck" are sucky statements. But on the matter of fetch quests? I mean, even if CDPR had said that (which, again, isn't the case - at least not based on the article the OP brought forth), how is bringing up a matter that, in every review I've read, whether "professional" or user-based, is considered a bad side of Inquisition in particular and the genre in general, and mentioning they want to improve it, amounts to no less than a dick move? Does someone not want less fetch quests?
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I missed an interview where they completely bashed other companies. If so, I'd like a link, because I can't recall anything of the sort. If it's just a matter of mentioning one negative side of games they like and saying how they want to improve it, then it's not anything dirty. It's not mud slinging. It's not being cocky. At the worst it's just not diplomatic by being a bit direct, and still not in an obnoxious way.
Fair enough. Mud slinging is bad, but if it's not that I have no problem with it.
When you said the Reds I thought you meant the baseball team at first. Never heard them called that.
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Posté 10 février 2015 - 07:18
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It's a d*ck move all around.
It was a d*ck move when Ubisoft did it (A month is long enough to play in Los Santos, come to Chicago!), it's a d*ck move when CDPR does it.
It's the most lowbrow method of garnering publicity.
The offense here is hilarious.
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#154
Posté 10 février 2015 - 07:23
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I also like a few days ago the Witcher 3 developers commented on how they played DAI and it had way too many fetch quests. That news was music to my ears
Lol. That's PR talk at work for you, and it's very succesfull apparantly.
And this is not even the sneaky, hidden kind. This is just reading some reactions on DA:I and cashing in on it. Literally cashing in.
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#155
Posté 10 février 2015 - 07:43
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Lol. That's PR talk at work for you, and it's very succesfull apparantly.
And this is not even the sneaky, hidden kind. This is just reading some reactions on DA:I and cashing in on it. Literally cashing in.
It's been posted on the previous page that it's a quote from an interview dating back to May 1, 2014. When was DA:I released again? Oh, wait... Poland must have some kind of time-travelling portal.
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Posté 10 février 2015 - 08:49
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It's been posted on the previous page that it's a quote from an interview dating back to May 1, 2014. When was DA:I released again? Oh, wait... Poland must have some kind of time-travelling portal.
Read what I quoted. That's not from may 1, 2014.
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#157
Posté 10 février 2015 - 09:28
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Fair enough. Mud slinging is bad, but if it's not that I have no problem with it.
When you said the Reds I thought you meant the baseball team at first. Never heard them called that.
We have club scarfs and all.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 01:17
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Personally I blame King Saul for popularizing fetch quests when he told David to go out and collect 100 philistine foreskins. David, wanting the XP bonus, went one further and collected 200 which was the bonus optional objective.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 01:54
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The offense here is hilarious.
Uh huh
We have club scarfs and all.
I have no interest in sports but I must admit I have a soft spot for the team of my home turf.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 01:56
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Personally I blame King Saul for popularizing fetch quests when he told David to go out and collect 100 philistine foreskins. David, wanting the XP bonus, went one further and collected 200 which was the bonus optional objective.
And David didn't even get the reward! What a jerk. At least he got the XP though.
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#161
Posté 11 février 2015 - 02:02
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The offense here is hilarious.
Yep. Haha.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 02:05
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Uh huh
How do you feel about this?
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 02:17
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How do you feel about this?
I think it's just as pathetic (in addition to not even describing what "blast processing" actually does, but that's typical marketing) as every other piece of marketing that tries to tear others down. I first noticed it in car ads.
Betas, the lot of them. I have no time for such insecurity.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 02:20
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I think it's just as pathetic (in addition to not even describing what "blast processing" actually does, but that's typical marketing) as every other piece of marketing that tries to tear others down. I first noticed it in car ads.
Betas, the lot of them. I have no time for such insecurity.
They did describe what blast processing is. It's that special something that allows Genesis to do what Nintendon't.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 02:21
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While I don't agree with these methods either, companies wouldn't use them if they didn't work.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 02:21
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They did describe what blast processing is. It's that special something that allows Genesis to do what Nintendon't.
It makes you go like dis. *vroooooooooooooooommmm*
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 02:27
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It makes you go like dis. *vroooooooooooooooommmm*
Fast action, homie. Fast action. "You can't do this on Nintendo! Genesis does!"
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#168
Posté 11 février 2015 - 03:10
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Personally I blame King Saul for popularizing fetch quests when he told David to go out and collect 100 philistine foreskins. David, wanting the XP bonus, went one further and collected 200 which was the bonus optional objective.
I blame God. Noah collecting 2 of every animal? Having to collect enough gopher wood to make a ship 300 cubits long? His whole life turned into a fetch quest.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 03:11
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I have no interest in sports but I must admit I have a soft spot for the team of my home turf.
Your home turf team is the Dragons. Embrace it and shun the heathen Reds.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 03:13
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And David didn't even get the reward! What a jerk. At least he got the XP though.
But if he hadn't gathered the foreskins, the romance option with Bathsheba wouldn't have been available.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 03:16
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I blame God. Noah collecting 2 of every animal? Having to collect enough gopher wood to make a ship 300 cubits long? His whole life turned into a fetch quest.
Don't forget it was seven and two. Everytime Noah looked at his quest log and saw a clean animal he sighed.
Your home turf team is the Dragons. Embrace it and shun the heathen Reds.
??? How do you know that? Is it possible Fast Jimmy is near here?
Also, l-o-l-n-o. As I said I'm only cool with them as a symbol of my city. The Dragons are just pathetic (and I don't consider this place my home town, though it's alright).
But if he hadn't gathered the foreskins, the romance option with Bathsheba wouldn't have been available.
No no, that one came directly from his Renegade choice to stay home from the war.
Gathering the foreskins in Act 1 got him Michel in Act 3. Not that she was worth it though...
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#172
Posté 11 février 2015 - 03:47
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These hilarious bible references make my insomnia bearable.
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#173
Posté 11 février 2015 - 03:51
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While I don't agree with these methods either, companies wouldn't use them if they didn't work.
This the truth. People react very strongly to going negative, like the message being conveyed indicates the company gets what you feel, as a disgruntled consumer. It develops instant affiliayion with the brand and product, because clearly they understand the concerns of the conquerors and would never duplicate the same mistakes or engage in the same practices.
The problem with "positive" marketing, of course, is what is NOT said. Omissions, implications and even unintentional customer expectations are all downfalls of promoting your product on its own merits (or perceived merits).
Negative marketing isn't inherently bad anymore than positive marketing is inherently good. It is merely another tool in the arsenal of a business.
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#174
Posté 11 février 2015 - 04:13
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There is always truthful marketing.
"Eh, its all right. Its a good game, but its got some serious flaws."
Might not work too well tho.
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Posté 11 février 2015 - 04:21
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Speaking of positive marketing I decide to dust of Mass Effect 2 recently and I was watching some of there interviews that are on the bonus disc (that comes with the Collector Edition). Yeah, they were laying it on pretty thick but I don't believe it crossed there minds that in trying to streamline the RPG mechanics that they had actually pretty much gutted them. So its not like they were out right lying but were just really confident that they had nailed there design goal, probably overly confident.
