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[Sylvius the Mad]

Actually no it isn't. Not all industries do this and it isn't something that was happening all through out history especially since consumerism is actually relatively new.

They should, though. It's good business.

[AlanC9]

sold as a RPG but has a bad hybrid of MMO and Hack & Slash game play

Without real definitions for these terms, this statement doesn't even get to the level of being false. It's just empty.

[AdamJames]

Where did you get that armor? Also pics please! I want to see what it looks like fully. It looks sexy up top.

 

I have it too, actually. His armor is the tier 3 Warrior gear: mine's wearing Sturdy Battlemaster Armor, but there are other variants as well. You can buy it from the merchant in the Hissing Wastes. His helm is the Helm of the Inquisitor, which drops from Mistral in the Emerald Graves. I'll put a couple pics of my so very sexy Inquisitor below (and link to more here, in case that's not enough hunk for ya ).

 

 

[FOE]

For all of that special Frostbyte3 engine, I'm not seeing the improvements.  This engine doesn't allow you to zoom out past a certain viewpoint?  It's not JUST a complaint about a graphics engine - it's about the playability.  This game is an abomination.  It's NOT what it was supposed to be.

[Dio Demon]

I have it too, actually. His armor is the tier 3 Warrior gear: mine's wearing Sturdy Battlemaster Armor, but there are other variants as well. You can buy it from the merchant in the Hissing Wastes. His helm is the Helm of the Inquisitor, which drops from Mistral in the Emerald Graves. I'll put a couple pics of my so very sexy Inquisitor below (and link to more here, in case that's not enough hunk for ya ).

 

 

 

I see a hunk   he's standing behind your Inquisitor

[Lebanese Dude]

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

P.S. I love the outfit on your Dorian. So fashion forward.

[The Jackal]

I'm just let down by the choices. I really feel like we got the shaft. I think instead of story telling. They went in the direction of combat. I am re-playing DA-O again. The massive difference. Right at the Start. I forgot how much I missed Allister's and Morrgian's bickering back and forth. This game is really good. I feel like a bunch of people jumped the gun by naming it game of the year.

 

Nothing really changes the second time you play it. There are certain big choices you can make down the road. To get to the fun part of making choices. You have to run around doing a tons of errands for other people. It almost reminded me of a MMO in a way. Where you are are just grinding getting "XXX" amount of stuff for this person. I know its not a popular word around here. I'm looking to play the Witcher 3. To see if they fullfill what DA:I lacked.

 

If they continue down this road. This might as well make a MMO. It feels the same way in terms of grinding. Getting a ton of stuff. None of those things you get actually makes any difference in final battle. You could choose not to upgrade your keep at all. It wouldn't make a difference. So what's the point of doing all that running around. 

[Elhanan]

I'm just let down by the choices. I really feel like we got the shaft. I think instead of story telling. They went in the direction of combat. I am re-playing DA-O again. The massive difference. Right at the Start. I forgot how much I missed Allister's and Morrgian's bickering back and forth. This game is really good. I feel like a bunch of people jumped the gun by naming it game of the year.
 
Nothing really changes the second time you play it. There are certain big choices you can make down the road. To get to the fun part of making choices. You have to run around doing a tons of errands for other people. It almost reminded me of a MMO in a way. Where you are are just grinding getting "XXX" amount of stuff for this person. I know its not a popular word around here. I'm looking to play the Witcher 3. To see if they fullfill what DA:I lacked.
 
If they continue down this road. This might as well make a MMO. It feels the same way in terms of grinding. Getting a ton of stuff. None of those things you get actually makes any difference in final battle. You could choose not to upgrade your keep at all. It wouldn't make a difference. So what's the point of doing all that running around.

I love the banter in DAO; also highly amused by Solas & Vivienne banter while in the same party. Personally see (or hear) little difference, as both games offer much of the same, though DAO is more practiced in my fading memory.

My own second campaign included dialogue choices added from Perks that were unused in the initial session, as well as differing storied racial references. While I did choose many of the same side-quests for similar reasons, I still have some noted differences made from a RP standpoint, and a few quests still left unexplored. From these tons of content, I as the Player am allowed to select what and how to proceed; not willing to complain over having more choices.

But I do hope that the actual MMO is avoided, as it is the massive throngs that seem to spoil the experience; not the stories.

[Lebanese Dude]

@ the GIF: I need to be alone right now.

You sure?

 

[Lebanese Dude]

But I do hope that the actual MMO is avoided, as it is the massive throngs that seem to spoil the experience; not the stories.

 

The day DA becomes an MMO and discontinues the SP is the day a part of me dies. Good thing it will never happen though

 

I like WoW but I would have much preferred continuing the story in Warcraft 4. I still pray to this day that we will be blessed with another awesome Warcraft strategy game.

[PhroXenGold]

The day DA becomes an MMO and discontinues the SP is the day a part of me dies. Good thing it will never happen though

 

I like WoW but I would have much preferred continuing the story in Warcraft 4. I still pray to this day that we will be blessed with another awesome Warcraft strategy game.

 

I would like an MMO set in Thedas, but only if it were to exist alongside futher single player DA games. If I had to chose one or the other, SP games win by a country mile.

[fizzypop]

They should, though. It's good business.

I disagree. It is only good business in the short term, not long term. Every time you do this you risk losing costumers instead of gaining them. This type of tactic only works if you have an endless supply of people willing to buy your games. The game industry doesn't. The majority of "gamers" are casual gamers. Bioware's games aren't casual. The longer they do this the less likely people are to buy their games. It is the same problem in the MMO market and relying on whales. At some point whales wash ashore and then where are you? For most of those games a slow steady decline until nothing.

[fizzypop]

I have it too, actually. His armor is the tier 3 Warrior gear: mine's wearing Sturdy Battlemaster Armor, but there are other variants as well. You can buy it from the merchant in the Hissing Wastes. His helm is the Helm of the Inquisitor, which drops from Mistral in the Emerald Graves. I'll put a couple pics of my so very sexy Inquisitor below (and link to more here, in case that's not enough hunk for ya ).

 

 

Thank you. It is seriously one of the better looking armors in this game lol. So few I want to actually wear. Love your quizzy he is definitely a hunk

[fizzypop]

Cassandra originally had white hair in early alpha footage in DA2 and people raised a stink about it when they changed it

 

 

 

And LOOK at this Dragon Age 2 trailer...........

 

 

Did you see any of this footage in Dragon Age 2.  You didn't. This was all alpha footage in the game.

You do realize this actually furthers the point of the OP and those who believe they didn't get what was advertised right? Using DA2 to justify DAI is a really stupid move because by all accounts DA2 was terrible. People complained a lot about what ended up being the final product lol. Not a very good argument.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I disagree. It is only good business in the short term, not long term. Every time you do this you risk losing costumers instead of gaining them. This type of tactic only works if you have an endless supply of people willing to buy your games. The game industry doesn't. The majority of "gamers" are casual gamers. Bioware's games aren't casual. The longer they do this the less likely people are to buy their games. It is the same problem in the MMO market and relying on whales. At some point whales wash ashore and then where are you? For most of those games a slow steady decline until nothing.

The casuals are the vast majority of the market, and they're not paying close enough attention to care.

And I don't see why anyone would be alienated by this entirely predictable and reasonable behaviour.

[RVallant]

The casuals are the vast majority of the market, and they're not paying close enough attention to care.

And I don't see why anyone would be alienated by this entirely predictable and reasonable behaviour.

 

The MMO market isn't really the cash-cow EA/Squenix whatever thought it was. Iirc FF14 AAR / SWTOR / TES and so on all have rather poor subscription numbers and just do enough to cruise with.

 

They can go for a Dragon Age MMO, I don't think they half the fanbase on the level of the above three series to draw in a crowd enough to be comfortable to 'cruise' though.

[AlanC9]

Who was talking about MMOs?

[LinksOcarina]

The MMO market isn't really the cash-cow EA/Squenix whatever thought it was. Iirc FF14 AAR / SWTOR / TES and so on all have rather poor subscription numbers and just do enough to cruise with.

 

They can go for a Dragon Age MMO, I don't think they half the fanbase on the level of the above three series to draw in a crowd enough to be comfortable to 'cruise' though.

 

Yet The Old Republic is turning a profit now and has been able to hit a sweet spot in terms of a subscriber base. Hell, FF XI and XIV are still popular enough to warrant open servers.

 

Not only is it sustainable, it's possible at this point that Dragon Age CAN go mmo, and I suspect the style of Inquisition might be how it's done.

 

I think the issue stems from "should it?" more can it. Personally, I don't care as much as others, but i do think we lose something if it goes MMO in the end, mainly in terms of content. however, considering what BioWare Austin was able to do with Star Wars, it might not be as bad as we think. You have to give it to them; the single player content in The Old Republic is among the strongest in a MMO game in a while. Only City of Heroes really competed with it I feel.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Who was talking about MMOs?

I was talking about marketing, and how its objective is not to educate, but to sell.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Yet The Old Republic is turning a profit now and has been able to hit a sweet spot in terms of a subscriber base. Hell, FF XI and XIV are still popular enough to warrant open servers.
 
Not only is it sustainable, it's possible at this point that Dragon Age CAN go mmo, and I suspect the style of Inquisition might be how it's done.
 
I think the issue stems from "should it?" more can it. Personally, I don't care as much as others, but i do think we lose something if it goes MMO in the end, mainly in terms of content. however, considering what BioWare Austin was able to do with Star Wars, it might not be as bad as we think. You have to give it to them; the single player content in The Old Republic is among the strongest in a MMO game in a while. Only City of Heroes really competed with it I feel.

Are we talking about the same Austin team and swtor game? Swtor is on life support and has been on steady decline for a while now due to the incompetence of the remaining 2 devs who are still working on that title. You think DAI is unplayable? Take a look at a truly disfunctional game (swtor) and realize that DAI is not nearly in as bad a shape as that. We are lucky if we can get a new pvp map in two years time. Ranked is a big joke due to their pathetic rewards and each season has had a steep decline in participation due to it and the ludicrous class balancing. The only thing they've excelled at is nickel and diming you for everything in the game. The servers are near ghost towns with the same 15-20 people generally being the only faces you will see for the majority of the day.

I would love a DA mmo or Mass Effect, but not if its done by that extremely lazy Austin team or with the same nickel and dime approach swtor has taken since it went f2p. I'll get off my soap box now.

[AlanC9]

I heard SWTOR had stabilized at a reasonable number of subscribers and revenue.

[Gold Dragon]

*I*  heard that these were the Dragon Age: Inquisition forums, not the Star Wars: The Old Republic forums.

 

Any truth to that?

[LinksOcarina]

Are we talking about the same Austin team and swtor game? Swtor is on life support and has been on steady decline for a while now due to the incompetence of the remaining 2 devs who are still working on that title. You think DAI is unplayable? Take a look at a truly disfunctional game (swtor) and realize that DAI is not nearly in as bad a shape as that. We are lucky if we can get a new pvp map in two years time. Ranked is a big joke due to their pathetic rewards and each season has had a steep decline in participation due to it and the ludicrous class balancing. The only thing they've excelled at is nickel and diming you for everything in the game. The servers are near ghost towns with the same 15-20 people generally being the only faces you will see for the majority of the day.

I would love a DA mmo or Mass Effect, but not if its done by that extremely lazy Austin team or with the same nickel and dime approach swtor has taken since it went f2p. I'll get off my soap box now.

 

Thats not what I played a few months back, unless things have changed since October.

[AlanC9]

*I*  heard that these were the Dragon Age: Inquisition forums, not the Star Wars: The Old Republic forums.
 
Any truth to that?

Apparently not. I don't know why we're talking about this either, and I was just doing it.