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Witcher 3 releasing 16 FREE DLC's soon....DAI?


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#376
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So exactly what was the point you were trying to make when someone said that there was very little complaining even on youtube?

The guy even extrapolated on it, and since you're replying to nearly every single post in this thread, you can't have missed what he was talking about.


So you were proving... what? Or did you just have to randomly enter some more anti EA into the conversation?

The voices that reaches the most ears gets money for changing their tone. Simple as that.



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He's male and likes sex? And women in the game seem to like him for no reason?

He is fit, quite unique looking, strong; giving aura of strength and he has money. Money alone would be enough but 'bad boy' works too.



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It isn't set in stone. You do have some sway over it, just not as much as your Inquisitor or Hawke. You've intrigued me though, what about his personality do you not like? He hates racism and bigotry of all kinds, he defends the powerless, hates political scheming and BS. Sticks up for the unprivileged. Has a dry sense of humour. He has many qualities that are often championed on the BSN, and yet so many say they dislike Geralt.

 

It's cause he's way too gritty and anti-heroic. He's a mutant, he's sterile, and a failed experiment. He's a relic, he's too "simplistic" in his approach to sex, and he ain't got a single romantic or suave bone in his entire body. He's the anti-Dorian of gaming lol. All of which I utterly love personally (yes even the shagging everybody lol), but I can understand why some people wouldn't like that. :)


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He's male and likes sex? And women in the game seem to like him for no reason?

 

So, like real life?

 

And BIoware's been guilty of the "for no reason" at times, too. Looking at the Anders conversation with Male Hawke in DA2, where about ten minutes after they've met, if you don't want in his pants (or vice versa, I guess) you get a massive penalty. The same size as one you'd get for making someone Tranquil.


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Those bugs I mentioned are the only bugs I have encountered in the game, though. Those and the music not playing outside cutscenes. Played for 75 hours total and I still don't know what the game sounds like.

 

Uuuuuuuuuuugh, that IS a shame because the score is really lovely. I can understand where you are coming from far better now. Not having run into those issues I was not aware of them. (I did run into bugs, mind ya, but not like that)



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The voices that reaches the most ears gets money for changing their tone. Simple as that.


Ah, so we're all tricked into believing we actually like this game.

Come on, man.

This is vaguely reminiscent of IT: Only I see the truth, I payed attention!
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Sure some if not most of the Wither 3 dlc will be simple things like new armor and weapons. But, it still really matters. Because we are living in the day and age where sections of a finished game a cut out and made pre-order bonuses or paid dlc. 



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Ah, so we're all tricked into believing we actually like this game.

Come on, man.

This is vaguely reminiscent of IT: Only I see the truth, I payed attention!

 

Not saying everyone "falls for it". Just saying that EA pays people to dish out false advertisement.



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Sure some if not most of the Wither 3 dlc will be simple things like new armor and weapons. But, it still really matters. Because we are living in the day and age where sections of a finished game a cut out and made pre-order bonuses or paid dlc. 

 

All you can really judge someone is prior history. Have they been guilty of holding back content so they could sell it before? Or not?

 

I think it's a bit tinfoil hat to judge CDPR on it, given that more often than not they've been generous with things most developers/publishers would've charged for. How many people have released massive revamps (Extended Editions) and made them free upgrades? I can think of one other, and that was Tecmo with the Ninja Gaiden Hurricane Pack (that eventually got re-released as Ninja Gaiden Black).


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Uuuuuuuuuuugh, that IS a shame because the score is really lovely. I can understand where you are coming from far better now. Not having run into those issues I was not aware of them. (I did run into bugs, mind ya, but not like that)

 

The game has other issues too, believe me. But that bug is the main one. and it seems to be a very fixable bug too. Its just something not triggering. should have been fixed in the first patch.



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So, like real life?

 

And BIoware's been guilty of the "for no reason" at times, too. Looking at the Anders conversation with Male Hawke in DA2, where about ten minutes after they've met, if you don't want in his pants (or vice versa, I guess) you get a massive penalty. The same size as one you'd get for making someone Tranquil.

 

It is not massive at all. You can have his Friendship or Rivalry at 100 by the end of frigging Act I. No massive -100 Approval stuff. (I got that from Alistair once for the impardonable sin of openly ordering him around, lmao, now THAT is a massive drop)



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All you can really judge someone is prior history. Have they been guilty of holding back content so they could sell it before? Or not?

 

I think it's a bit tinfoil hat to judge CDPR on it, given that more often than not they've been generous with things most developers/publishers would've charged for. How many people have released massive revamps (Extended Editions) and made them free upgrades? I can think of one other, and that was Tecmo with the Ninja Gaiden Hurricane Pack (that eventually got re-released as Ninja Gaiden Black).

 

So where did I imply that CDPR held content back in the past?



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It is not massive at all. You can have his Friendship or Rivalry at 100 by the end of frigging Act I. No massive -100 Approval stuff. (I got that from Alistair once for the impardonable sin of openly ordering him around, lmao, now THAT is a massive drop)

 

That's not the point. It's also the only time in the game that happens.

 

 

So where did I imply that CDPR held content back in the past?

 

Sorry, wasn't so much poking at you as I was the general sentiment that a lot of people seem to have. I could've worded that better.



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Not saying everyone "falls for it". Just saying that EA pays people to dish out false advertisement.


So it really was just some random anti EA bit and served no purpose to what the guy (or gal) actually said.

I'm glad we finally established that.

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So it really was just some random anti EA bit and served no purpose to what the guy (or gal) actually said.

I'm glad we finally established that.

 

Actually it isn't. EA has been caught handing people money to speak highly of their products. That is called propaganda. And you are defending it, by trying to just handwave it away.


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I would also like to see actual proof for EA paying off big time YT reviewers that is more than a sensationalist article?

I mean, whenever these YT reviewers rail agains BioWare (ME3 Ending, DAII) they're proof that said things are terribad. When they praise BioWare/or a BioWare Game that came out after DAO they're all paid shills........ Same goes for awards. When The Witcher will win lots of them you lot will be overjoyed, even if others think it's undeserved. So?

 

Can't have it both ways.


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I've never really understood the complaints about getting rivalry points for turning down Anders' advances. I understand the gripe that you had to be a dick in order to do so, but not the the fact that you get rivalry points. Turning people down hurts their feelings whether it's harsh or as diplomatic as possible. It still knocks people's self esteem. Nobody likes being knocked back.


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I would also like to see actual proof for EA paying off big time YT reviewers that is more than a sensationalist article?

I mean, whenever these YT reviewers rail agains BioWare (ME3 Ending, DAII) they're proof that said things are terribad. When they praise BioWare/or a BioWare Game that came out after DAO they're all paid shills........ Same goes for awards. When The Witcher will win lots of them you lot will be overjoyed, even if others think it's undeserved. So?

 

Can't have it both ways.

 

http://www.joystiq.c...e-with-rules/  This one sheds more light on it. A pdf file is included.



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Actually it isn't. EA has been caught handing people money to speak highly of their products. That is called propaganda. And you are defending it, by trying to just handwave it away.

 

Yep, and that's why people making such a big deal about DA:I winning game of the year awards ticks me off.  It's like I have said a few times before:

 

Websites and publications gave DA:I game of the year weeks before it was released. These same websites and publications hyped the game up since it was announced. While making tons of ad ad revenue and paid incentives from EA. The game of the year awards mean nothing because EA out right paid for them. They are proof positive that gaming journalism is completely corrupt.


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 Appealing to the minority while you already have a core set of fans is

an insult to the core fans, because it assumes you take them for granted.



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I've never really understood the complaints about getting rivalry points for turning down Anders' advances. I understand the gripe that you had to be a dick in order to do so, but not the the fact that you get rivalry points. Turning people down hurts their feelings whether it's harsh or as diplomatic as possible. It still knocks people's self esteem. Nobody likes being knocked back.

 

Because DA2, unlike DAO, actually avoids this. DAO's Rivalry/Friendship points are about character actions. Do you do something that's to a certain character's advantage (pro mage, anti mage, etc?)? Yes? You get points.

 

There's also the way it was written (one "no" option to two "yes" options), and voice acted - if you refused him, it's both written and voice acted like your Hawke sees him as the most disgusting thing on earth. I'm not one of those people who believe Bioware has a secret agenda, but really.

 

The penalty is also equivalent to some of the most morally reprehensible actions in the game. Which, taken with the fact that DA2 generally does not do this, looks that much worse.


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Yep, and that's why people making such a big deal about DA:I winning game of the year awards ticks me off.  It's like I have said a few times before:

 

Websites and publications gave DA:I game of the year weeks before it was released. These same websites and publications hyped the game up since it was announced. While making tons of ad ad revenue and paid incentives from EA. The game of the year awards mean nothing because EA out right paid for them. They are proof positive that gaming journalism is completely corrupt.

 

I know a few people in the gaming industry, and the gaming journalism. The all tell me the same thing: gaming journalism is one of the most corrupt businesses in the world today. The whole damn thing, not just EA or whatever, its all rotten to the core.


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Yep, and that's why people making such a big deal about DA:I winning game of the year awards ticks me off.  It's like I have said a few times before:

 

Websites and publications gave DA:I game of the year weeks before it was released. These same websites and publications hyped the game up since it was announced. While making tons of ad ad revenue and paid incentives from EA. The game of the year awards mean nothing because EA out right paid for them. They are proof positive that gaming journalism is completely corrupt.   

 

So just out of sheer curiosity, why doesn't the same company end up sweeping the awards every year then? Is the next layer of the conspiracy that EA knew people would hate Dragon Age II, so it would look too obvious if they paid for the award?



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http://www.joystiq.c...e-with-rules/  This one sheds more light on it. A pdf file is included.

 

Yeah, that's not propaganda nor illegal. I understand feeling iffy about it, but this doesn't even qualify as shady quid pro quo. And it certainly won't stop big YT reviewers from criticizing the games they review, they did it aplenty with the game used as an example in the article.

 

Mind you, I do NOT approve of methods like that. But I thought there'd be more to it than......just this.



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Yep, and that's why people making such a big deal about DA:I winning game of the year awards ticks me off.  It's like I have said a few times before:

 

Websites and publications gave DA:I game of the year weeks before it was released. These same websites and publications hyped the game up since it was announced. While making tons of ad ad revenue and paid incentives from EA. The game of the year awards mean nothing because EA out right paid for them. They are proof positive that gaming journalism is completely corrupt.

 

The game released on November 18. What publications gave it GOTY before that?