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[Shechinah]

(to DaemionMoadrin) Some players like to use a specific set because it looks good and fits their character and sometimes they do it for various other reasons.

 

In Origin, I switched between various sets, some of which were terrible in terms of stats, to enhance my roleplaying like wearing the Chantry robes or putting my mage in armor to hide the fact that they were a mage when on the road or when visiting Denerim and Lothering.

 

In DA2, I used a mixture of cheat and console to get Bethany's gear for the first and a portion of the second act because it fitted better than running around in mage gear. I also used firebombs and such to pretend to hide the fact that my Hawke was a mage.

 

In Inquisition, I used the Keeper staff item because I was playing a dalish who kept it as a way of feeling less homesick and because drawing parallels between a Keeper's duty and that of an Inquisitor kept it from being too overwhelming as she grew into the role. I upgraded it over time but it was still terrible in comparison to other staffs I came across.

[Persephone]

So you ignored better gear in favor of the bonus gear? And I mean vastly better. You are not one of the "gamers" who find today's games too difficult, are you?

 

I have absolutely no issue with paying for good DLC like the ones you mentioned (although I wouldn't rate Citadel that highly).

 

The free Witcher 2 DLC contains excellent armor (chest, pants, gloves) that's good for at least the first third of the game, not something you throw out after wearing it once like the DA:I equivalent.

 

I use different things in different pts, mainly for RP reasons.

 

If that was supposed to be an insult, all I can do is LOL. With 20+ years of gaming to my name, I'm not even going to bother with that nonsense.

 

Eh, again, I wasn't all that impressed with it tbh. I mixed & matched a lot in TW2 and you know.......when it comes to useful armor, a game none of you will remember got them all beat: Might & Magic VII. (VI was fab too but VII was the peak of the franchise. I still mourn 3DO tbh) And 3DO didn't need any DLC. Or any of the gimmicks BioWare & CDPR are using these days. Good times, when RPGs where just RPGs instead of Choose Your Own Adventure books with watered down RPG elements. And DLC.

[Persephone]

I didn't even know you could import anything from game to game in that series.

You didn't miss out on a lot tbh. When I imported my Shani Save into TW2 and the game began with Geralt in bed with Triss, it just angered me. I don't even use it anymore, it's pointless.

[Il Divo]

"Witcher 3 getting 16 free on-disc locked content DLCs and friendly bullshit PR from CDPR" confirmed.

I love the games CDPR make but their PR is sooo transparent. We see right through the bull**** behind that smile. "see, we give free DLC give us attention, look at how amazing we are!"

 

That's pretty much my stance. As a consumer, why shouldn't I love the idea of free dlc? But at the same time, when I see their marketing ploy of "Our gamers paid full price for a game, we owe them!", I can't help but roll my eyes. 

 

A company doesn't owe me anything for paying for a product any more than I owe them if/when they deliver a quality product. 

[Cheylus]

Triss in my bed or not is not really the point.

 

The point is:

 

Would I prefer 10€/$ of digital stuff (DA:I)...

- one armor

- 4 weapons

- 2 mounts

- 1 throne

 

Or would I prefer to pay nothing to get, on a weekly basis (TW3)

- one armor for me / one armor for my horse

- one new appearance for a NPC

- a short sidequest

- new hairstyles and beards

- and 12 others unknown stuff

 

Meanwhile, in TW2, pre-order and collector bonuses were made available for free with patch 1.2. One month and a half after the release of the game.

 

You still have to pay 10€ to get the collector bonuses for DA:I or ME3 on Origin, 3 months or 3 years after the game's release.

Save imports or even the game's own quality have nothing to do with that.

[KaiserShep]

So you ignored better gear in favor of the bonus gear? And I mean vastly better. You are not one of the "gamers" who find today's games too difficult, are you?

 

I often ignored better gear in favor of stuff that I felt fit the character more.

 

In Mass Effect, for example, I only equipped Shepard with the Onyx armor, because it's the only gear that had N7 on the chestplate, and was part of the more iconic design. Not to mention that it makes more sense that Shepard is wearing it in the prologue and Conrad Verner would be wearing a knock-off of it in ME2.
 

I refused to wear the Regalia of Weisshaupt in DA2 Legacy, even though I had obtained it at a level that made it superior to the mantle of the Champion, because I did not want my Hawke wearing anything remotely Grey Warden.

[jedidotflow]

According to the guys who made the Witcher 3, they are releasing 16 DLC's FREE.

 

 

What has DAI done for us gamers? [bold and resizing mine]

 

 

http://ca.ign.com/ar...gainst-paid-dlc

 

http://www.pcgamer.c...-witcher-3-dlc/

 

 

CD Red Projekt is setting the new standard for rpg gaming and DLC's.

 

LOL, entitled much? BioWare owes you nothing. They made a game and you paid for it. Transaction over. 

[Elhanan]

Both games apparently have more in common that some mention: 'flawless' mechanics offering no complaints, and a decided lack of minor quests....



Will have to see more of TW3 as it nears; still pass on the previous titles.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

The Witcher 3 has no DRM, it automatically wins some points for that alone.

[AWTEW]

'snip '
 
I won't even begin with the Collector edition of DA:I and TW3. The level of quality of DA:I collector edition is embarrassing.
 

I'm not the biggest fan of the witcher, but even I have to concede here. I saw the beauty and QUALITY of the Witcher 2 collectors edition, and in comparision DAI collectors edition is Sh**., The DAI collectors edition is not even worth being in the same room as Witcher 2 collectors edition.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I often ignored better gear in favor of stuff that I felt fit the character more.

 

In Mass Effect, for example, I only equipped Shepard with the Onyx armor, because it's the only gear that had N7 on the chestplate, and was part of the more iconic design. Not to mention that it makes more sense that Shepard is wearing it in the prologue and Conrad Verner would be wearing a knock-off of it in ME2.
 

I refused to wear the Regalia of Weisshaupt in DA2 Legacy, even though I had obtained it at a level that made it superior to the mantle of the Champion, because I did not want my Hawke wearing anything remotely Grey Warden.

 

My characters are more pragmatic. I wear the best I can get my hands on unless it looks really ugly. Having stylish armor makes for pretty corpses.

[Shechinah]

(to DaemionMoadrin) Not if you know how to make ugly corpses of the other guys first.

 

Sometimes it is a challenge but it is an enjoyable challenge like murdering your way through the arl's estate in your wedding dress while playing on a higher difficulty or playing the Legacy dlc at a lower level while wearing less armor because in the desert heat, armor seems more detrimental than helpful.

 

Sure, it is a self-imposed challenge but it only adds to the playthrough and roleplay as far as I am concerned.

[DaemionMoadrin]

(to DaemionMoadrin) Not if you know how to make ugly corpses of the other guys first. Sometimes it is a challenge but it is an enjoyable challenge like murdering your way through the arl's estate in your wedding dress while playing on a higher difficulty or playing Legacy at a lower level while wearing less armor because in the desert heat, armor seems more detrimental than helpful. Sure, it is a self-imposed challenge but it only adds to the playthrough and roleplay as far as I am concerned.

 

That's a playstyle that wouldn't be fun for me.

 

I get it though.

[Shechinah]

(to DaemionMoadrin) It's what I love about some games; you can play in a lot of different ways; I do lazy runs, modded runs, difficult runs and naked runs, the latter of which is where I do whatever I feel like at the moment and ignore the consequences.

 

 

[Teligth]

And suddenly it has nothing to do with DLCs and their prices (or lack thereoff).
 
BioWare did a good job by not releasing a Day-1 DLC this time. I like the fact they haven't release any "weapons pack", not too much exclusives items or even DLC.
But patches are lackluster.
 
There's something wrong with Witcher 2 DRM?
They got rid of it one week after release (and there might be performance issues with DA:I because of Denuvo).
 
The game needs an item storage?
They added it in a patch one month after the release of the game (DA:I was released 3 months ago and there is no plan for an item storage afaik).
 
Of course they can make good story-based DLCs. My gripe with it is that BioWare manages to be fan-friendly but they forgot how to be customer-friendly (but I guess that's not entirely up to them).
 

*facepalm*

And yet the "Ultimate Edition" of DA:O doesn't include pre-order exclusive items from the collector's edition.

The Ultimate Edition of DA:O is, for "reasons", not available in my country (on PC).

Excuse me, but what do you call "The flames of the inquisition pack" that Bioware wants me to upgrade to for 10 bucks?

[X Equestris]

Excuse me, but what do you call "The flames of the inquisition pack" that Bioware wants me to upgrade to for 10 bucks?

You got the Flames of the Inquisition stuff for free if you preordered the regular edition. The ten extra bucks was for the deluxe edition, which had a fair amount of content, including the soundtrack.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

Ok, most of the people complain because The Witcher hasn't a custom character, but a default one.

You should be grateful, because Geralt will always be cooler than any qunari, elf or hurlock you will customize.

Deal with it.

[DragonAddict]

You just owned this thread.

 

Pretty much sums it up

 

 

DAO was a really great rpg, than DA2 came along it was okay but a bomb and now DAI is here, only better than DA2 because of the new graphics, long cut scenes and everyone is gay, sex, sex, sex.

[DragonAddict]

(Free) enhanced editions for TW1 and 2 impressed me much more than free cosmetic DLCs.

 

Actually I'm more impressed by the price of the game itself. I got a discount to pre-order TW3 on Gog.com because I had the two previous games. The digital game costs me 43,79€. For this price I have:

- No DRM

- Fair price (they acknowledged some countries have to pay more than other and I have a discount to buy another game on Gog for the difference of price - in my case I got 6€ to spend on GOG)

- a copy of Neverwinter Nights

- a comic book

- another interactive comic book

- the OST of the game (4 titles to download immediately)

- paper toys

- artbook (200 pages)

- a making of

- a map of the game

- I also had beta access to "The Witcher Adventure Game" (a board game)

- and the list is growing sometimes with new stuff

 

On top of that I would add:

- MODS support on PC

- Free DLCs

- TW1 and 2 are often available for 1,59€.

 

For the "Deluxe edition" of DA:I I had to pay 69,99€.

- the game has DRM...

- DLC "weapons of the Inquisition"

- DLC "Inquisition armor"

- Horse armor

- Chests for multiplayer

- Incomplete OST (tavern songs aren't there)

- A throne

- two mounts

All of that for 10€. TEN EUROS. It should be standard stuff to put in a game.

 

And no artbook. For nearly 30€ more than TW3.

 

I won't even begin with the Collector edition of DA:I and TW3. The level of quality of DA:I collector edition is embarrassing.

 

Though I would say that DA:I marketing was way better than DA2's or ME3's regarding DLC/exclusives/incentives.

(and the Keep was awesome)

 

Nicely said.

[SetecAstronomy]

Do CDPR have forums, it seems like many of you would be very happy there. Not telling anybody what they should do, mind you. Just seems like you would be welcome there.

[DragonAddict]

DAO, a Bioware game has:

 

 

- isometric view,

 

- optimized for the PC and console,

 

- many skills to chose from,

 

- select your attributes,

 

- storage chest,

 

- main campsite,

 

- chat with party characters

 

- buy gifts whenver you wished,

 

- not dumbed down,

 

- not simplified almost like for kids,

 

- not a hack and slash controller game,

 

- story line and plots were very well written

 

- good DLC's and expansion pack

 

- change armor, weapons and items between party characters on the fly

 

- no swearing

 

- tastefully done adult choices, not gay everything

 

- pet

 

- enchantment!!!

 

- useful side quests

 

- long game

 

- addictive with high replayability

 

- more for young adults and not kids

 

- gore, blood with a darker theme

 

 

This is part of a RPG game. DAI has none of these things....and we still call it a rpg.....

[Andraste_Reborn]

DAO was a really great rpg, than DA2 came along it was okay but a bomb and now DAI is here, only better than DA2 because of the new graphics, long cut scenes and everyone is gay, sex, sex, sex.

 

I feel obligated to point out that there are only four gay characters in DAI that you can really talk to. Five counting Ritts and assuming she's gay rather than bi or pansexual. Adding the Orlesian nobles on the balcony and the dead mage Ritts was passing time with gives us eight (possibly) gay characters out of hundreds. I don't think they're going to take over the game any time soon.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I feel obligated to point out that there are only four gay characters in DAI that you can really talk to. Five counting Ritts and assuming she's gay rather than bi or pansexual. Adding the Orlesian nobles on the balcony and the dead mage Ritts was passing time with gives us eight (possibly) gay characters out of hundreds. I don't think they're going to take over the game any time soon.

 

I'd totally play a game with nothing but lesbians in it.

[Il Divo]

DAO, a Bioware game has:

 

 

- isometric view,

 

- optimized for the PC and console,

 

- many skills to chose from,

 

- select your attributes,

 

- storage chest,

 

- main campsite,

 

- chat with party characters

 

- buy gifts whenver you wished,

 

- not dumbed down,

 

- not simplified almost like for kids,

 

- not a hack and slash controller game,

 

- story line and plots were very well written

 

- good DLC's and expansion pack

 

- change armor, weapons and items between party characters on the fly

 

- no swearing

 

- tastefully done adult choices, not gay everything

 

- pet

 

- enchantment!!!

 

- useful side quests

 

- long game

 

- addictive with high replayability

 

- more for young adults and not kids

 

- gore, blood with a darker theme

 

 

This is part of a RPG game. DAI has none of these things....and we still call it a rpg.....

 

Not gonna lie,  your list is pretty laughable.  No swearing, storage chests, and buying gifts are part of what make an RPG? Interesting set of criteria. Pets?

 

Clearly, Bioware has been making their games wrong. 

[Cheylus]

From DLC to "Triss in my bed" and homosexual characters. Can we stay somewhat on topic and focus on DLC practices?

 

You got the Flames of the Inquisition stuff for free if you preordered the regular edition. The ten extra bucks was for the deluxe edition, which had a fair amount of content, including the soundtrack.

It would have been fine to me with a digital artbook. Digital Deluxe DA:I is very expensive for what it is.