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[Corto81]

Well, they COULD give us a Chargen FOR Geralt. Within reason, of course. (I.E. white hair & cat eyes are obligatory but you get hairstyles, skintones, beards, scars, ink etc.) I'd appreciate that, like a lot.

 

Nah, wouldn't work.
Leave it as it is, finish his story this way, then they can make a customizable protagonist for the next game.

Also, the amount of Bioware fanboys who for some reason feel insulted by another studio's design, development and marketing decisions is ranging from hilarious to worrisome.

It's like watching believers trying to argument with a scientist about God, and they're only answer against a hundred arguments is: "It's like that because I believe hard it is so."

[SnakeCode]

Or maybe representation and inclusivity are beautiful, extremely rare things that matter to a lot of people who rarely get that anywhere else. As a "victim" I'm gonna tell ya something right now: Non cis, non white, non straight people existed in the Medieval Times, and......wait for it.......weren't created in the last 20 years. Maybe BioWare also wanted to do right by women, non het, non cis, non white folks and thus included them? As a non straight lass, I really appreciate not being reduced to a gimmick/object to the male gaze for a change when people like me appear in a story, ya know? Or maybe have one or two pseudo medieval games where women aren't just reduced to boobs/damsels to bed/scheming witches with boobtastic dresses.


I like the Witcher Series. I like the DA series. As in what they got away with? Reducing an entire character arc/relationship to a codex? Disregarding my choices in TW1 (Esp. re: Geralt's personality) in their joke of an Import system in TW2? Sexist porn card games? (They know better now tho) Heck, BioWare gets away with stuff too, it's just different.

"Done right by the fans." Well, at least their marketing's working, such uncritical adoration......but I was called a "fanboy", ironic, innit?

I'm not sure what the aggressive tone is for. I was being perfectly civil. And nice hypocrisy at ebeing offended by being called a fanboy (which wasn't me by the way) yet heavily implying that I'm one, which I can assure you I'm not. I just recognise the steps CDPR are taking to reward the fans for their continued support in a way that other devs have never done. I feel that is worth some praise, you don't. Different strokes.


As for inclusion of various "minorities" in the game, I am just as supportive of that as you. The thing is, just because those people have always existed in the real world, doesn't mean that CDPR have to put them in a fantasy world that is not even theirs to take liberties with. If it was their own IP then they would be free to do as they please. It isn't though.

I agree about the card game, that was a really bad design choice on behalf of CDPR, you won't see.me defending that sort of thing.

Also seriously, you should drop talking about the "male gaze" it does you no credit. It's phrases like that I can't take seriously and you come of as one of Sarkeesian's lot.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Also seriously, you should drop talking about the "male gaze" it does you no credit. It's phrases like that I can't take seriously and you come of as one of Sarkeesian's lot.

 

The concept of the male gaze has been around for decades in feminist theory and has a long and important critical history. It's not as if Sarkeesian's videos are the first time someone has applied it to video games, either.

[Persephone]

I'm not sure what the aggressive tone is for. I was being perfectly civil. And nice hypocrisy at ebeing offended by being called a fanboy (which wasn't me by the way) yet heavily implying that I'm one, which I can assure you I'm not. I just recognise the steps CDPR are taking to reward the fans for their continued support in a way that other devs have never done. I feel that is worth some praise, you don't. Different strokes.


As for inclusion of various "minorities" in the game, I am just as supportive of that as you. The thing is, just because those people have always existed in the real world, doesn't mean that CDPR have to put them in a fantasy world that is not even theirs to take liberties with. If it was their own IP then they would be free to do as they please. It isn't though.

I agree about the card game, that was a really bad design choice on behalf of CDPR, you won't see.me defending that sort of thing.

Also seriously, you should drop talking about the "male gaze" it does you no credit. It's phrases like that I can't take seriously and you come of as one of Sarkeesian's lot.

 

My apologies, that did get rather heated, I just didn't appreciate the words "victims" and the idea that BioWare was pressured into catering to folks like...you know...me. Sorry if I misunderstood.

 

That's the thing though, what CDPR is doing is nice, no question but it's not new or unheard of. Other devs, including BioWare, have given & give free DLC. Other devs, not including BioWare, publish DRM free games. Other devs, including BioWare sometimes, reach out to their fans & listen to them. That's not diminishing the effort CDPR is making. But I'd question the altruism behind it tho, while still appreciating it.

 

No they don't have to, ofc. But they DID and reduced it to a joke/display for their male target audience. (That Lesbomancy joke/scene with the ridic. BDSM elements.... But BioWare also had awful stuff in that regard, I.E. Branka) Why not.....not do it instead rather than that? That's all I'm asking.

 

The "Male Gaze" concept has been around for much longer than Gaming as we know it, throughout the media. It's harmful. Hence me pointing it out. If that wasn't CDPR's intent, they'd be fair game & offer us ladies something to ogle at too, ever wonder why they never do?

[Dread-Reaper]

My apologies, that did get rather heated, I just didn't appreciate the words "victims" and the idea that BioWare was pressured into catering to folks like...you know...me. Sorry if I misunderstood.

 

That's the thing though, what CDPR is doing is nice, no question but it's not new or unheard of. Other devs, including BioWare, have given & give free DLC. Other devs, not including BioWare, publish DRM free games. Other devs, including BioWare sometimes, reach out to their fans & listen to them. That's not diminishing the effort CDPR is making. But I'd question the altruism behind it tho, while still appreciating it.

 

No they don't have to, ofc. But they DID and reduced it to a joke/display for their male target audience. (That Lesbomancy joke/scene with the ridic. BDSM elements.... But BioWare also had awful stuff in that regard, I.E. Branka) Why not.....not do it instead rather than that? That's all I'm asking.

 

The "Male Gaze" concept has been around for much longer than Gaming as we know it, throughout the media. It's harmful. Hence me pointing it out. If that wasn't CDPR's intent, they'd be fair game & offer us ladies something to ogle at too, ever wonder why they never do?

I always thought Geralt was pretty good looking.

[KaiserShep]

- no main campsite

 

[Il Divo]

 

That doesn't count. It's a Castle, not a Camp Site. 

[Cheylus]

Customer-friendly practices are good-looking too.

 

At least it's more good-looking than off-topic posts.

[ThreeF]

I always thought Geralt was pretty good looking.

YMMV applies.

 

The more trailers and game plays I see the more uninterested and somewhat alienated I feel about Witcher series, not all of it is because of Geralt, but a lot of it has to do with how Geralt looks, moves and talks, a lot of it has also to do with how the other characters are portrayed.  Not my cup of tea.

[rafoquinha]

You know... I think they made a game, cut some pieces of it and they are now offering 16 DLCs based on things that should have in the game already. Good marketing, right?

 

I know that some companies do the same thing, but they charge for it and its terrible, but I dont think CD PROJEKT RED is anykind of saviour too. I yet have to see if those free DLCs will be great addons, cause if they manage to be, then I was wrong

[jeromefiefdom]

Well, it is important to consider that the free dlc for the witcher really doesn't add mcuh. At most a quest, and as little as a optional alternate costume. Nothing that truly adds to the game imporves. Yet people still get all excited and boastfull about it

[jeromefiefdom]

My apologies, that did get rather heated, I just didn't appreciate the words "victims" and the idea that BioWare was pressured into catering to folks like...you know...me. Sorry if I misunderstood.

 

That's the thing though, what CDPR is doing is nice, no question but it's not new or unheard of. Other devs, including BioWare, have given & give free DLC. Other devs, not including BioWare, publish DRM free games. Other devs, including BioWare sometimes, reach out to their fans & listen to them. That's not diminishing the effort CDPR is making. But I'd question the altruism behind it tho, while still appreciating it.

 

No they don't have to, ofc. But they DID and reduced it to a joke/display for their male target audience. (That Lesbomancy joke/scene with the ridic. BDSM elements.... But BioWare also had awful stuff in that regard, I.E. Branka) Why not.....not do it instead rather than that? That's all I'm asking.

 

The "Male Gaze" concept has been around for much longer than Gaming as we know it, throughout the media. It's harmful. Hence me pointing it out. If that wasn't CDPR's intent, they'd be fair game & offer us ladies something to ogle at too, ever wonder why they never do?

 

She has a point. THe witcher is more than slightly mysogonistic most of the time. It really is a shame, given that the writing is so good.

[Elhanan]

She has a point. THe witcher is more than slightly mysogonistic most of the time. It really is a shame, given that the writing is so good.

A factor in why I have yet to see the story; also no Pause and heavy use of profanity. Perhaps when they switch from the books to something else, this might change. I hold on to wishful thinking.

[Dread-Reaper]

She has a point. THe witcher is more than slightly mysogonistic most of the time. It really is a shame, given that the writing is so good.

It doesn't seem that way to me, since everyone is portrayed as assholes or just selfish.

[jeromefiefdom]

A factor in why I have yet to see the story; also no Pause and heavy use of profanity. Perhaps when they switch from the books to something else, this might change. I hold on to wishful thinking.

Thats the strange thing. There are incredibly strong female charactes in the novels, one of whom eventually supersedes Geralt as main character. So I have no idea why the games chose such a different route.

[Il Divo]

Well, it is important to consider that the free dlc for the witcher really doesn't add mcuh. At most a quest, and as little as a optional alternate costume. Nothing that truly adds to the game imporves. Yet people still get all excited and boastfull about it

 

That would be my next question. What does 16 pieces of free dlc mean? Is it going to be Warden's Keep or the Stone Prisoner quality? Or more in line with Feast Day Gifts? 

[Dread-Reaper]

Thats the strange thing. There are incredibly strong female charactes in the novels, one of whom eventually supersedes Geralt as main character. So I have no idea why the games chose such a different route.

You never know, she might star in the next game set in the Witcher universe. CDPR did say this is the last game that follows Geralt's story, not the last in the Witcher series.

[Dread-Reaper]

That would be my next question. What does 16 pieces of free dlc mean? Is it going to be Warden's Keep or the Stone Prisoner quality? Or more in line with Feast Day Gifts? 

It's more of a statement. Look at Inquisition's $10 upgrade package, which is just a few items and mount, they are basically releasing those 16 small DLC to stay people shouldn't be charged for such sparse content, when they already dropped $50+ on your game.

[DanniloSan]

The Witcher is an amazing RPG series,and this thing of free DLC is a commendale attitude,but unfortunately it will not be an example to other companies,they already create the games planning the DLCs to be able to charge more after the realease...That's business...DAMN Business!

[Octarin]

Bumping, cause.... Witcher. 

 

Also, I really wanna thank Bioware, and EA for making such a [...] up game that turned me off so badly that made me turn to look for something else and i found a true love in Witcher. 

 

Many, many thanks. I'll be financing that franchise from now on, and retroactively as well. 

 

 

Har, har, har har got my second warning for this reply *lols lots* 

[blackdeath]

"We, as gamers, would like to be treated this way."

By Jenna Pitcher CD Projekt co-founder and joint CEO Marcin Iwiński tells IGN that the developer is releasing 16 free The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt downloadable post-launch content packs to make a statement against the “steeply priced” paid DLC economy.
“Because people just paid full price for our game,” Iwiński responded when we asked why the developer is releasing its next 16 DLC packs for free. “We owe them.”
“Yeah, we are making a statement,” he added. “We, as gamers, would like to be treated this way, 'Hey, give me free DLC.' It doesn't have to be something huge. And I'm saying we aren't giving out huge stuff, we aren't giving tens of hours of storyline here, we are giving small bits of pieces that don't cost a lot. And I think people would feel better about our game, and, so, they will enjoy the adventure even more."

Hey Man come on what about the Free Tavern songs????

[Cheylus]

nevermind

Modifié par Cheylus, 09 février 2015 - 06:07 .

[jeromefiefdom]

That would be my next question. What does 16 pieces of free dlc mean? Is it going to be Warden's Keep or the Stone Prisoner quality? Or more in line with Feast Day Gifts? 

 

More like Mass Effect's costumes packs

[Lord Surinen]

She has a point. THe witcher is more than slightly mysogonistic most of the time. It really is a shame, given that the writing is so good.

It is--- what? I hope that the writing of the Witcher series will never change; manly, gritty stuff for manly, gritty men. Focus on the most probable the buggest monetary contributors: straight men, I like it.

 

 

So, where are our free DLC? Hell, where are actual patches for this game and by patch I mean an actual fix but not in a sense of a fix called 'patch' like 'patch 4'.

[jeromefiefdom]

It is--- what? I hope that the writing of the Witcher series will never change; manly, gritty stuff for manly, gritty men. Focus on the most probable the buggest monetary contributors: straight men, I like it.

 

 

So, where are our free DLC? Hell, where are actual patches for this game and by patch I mean an actual fix but not in a sense of a fix called 'patch' like 'patch 4'.

 

See that is where I will have to disagree. My sister is absolutely disturbed by the stuff in the Witcher. When we got the Witcher 2 for xbox last year she was really excited, as she loves the novels. However, the sexist tone of the game and pure wish fulfillment. What she said to me was that "If any game was made for men who wanted to "put women in their place" it was that series". Personally, I agree with her. The first game had actual sex cards for heaven''s sake! Also, gaming shouldn't just be for straight men. Apart from my sister and aunt and cousins, myy best friend is gay, and she loves Bioware games given that they are the only place she has seen her sexuality without it being fanservice or fetishized.