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[doctor michael]

Is anyone else disappointed tthat you couldn't sit in judgment on Blackwall to personally execute him? I mean, what he did was horrendous. My Inquisitor wanted to chop off his head!!

[LonewandererD]

Let him rot in jail then, you don't swing the sword but he dies anyway

 

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[doctor michael]

It's just not as satisfying!

[LonewandererD]

I know, but then there will be no one standing in the way of your even manlier beard!

 

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[Shelidon]

Yes, I was very disappointed. The point of getting him out of jail was, for me, to state that the Inquisition claims the right to judge its own people. It sort of misses the purpose if then you can't condemn him. Worst than everything, it sends the message that the inquisition is not fair in its judgements.

[Teligth]

Is anyone else disappointed tthat you couldn't sit in judgment on Blackwall to personally execute him? I mean, what he did was horrendous. My Inquisitor wanted to chop off his head!!

I wouldn't kill him, but it's bs that we had one Gray Warden to just get yanked away. The whole appeal of his character is gone now. I simply don't want to use him.

[agonis]

"What he did is horrendous. I want to chop off his head!"

 

It is rather ironic.

 

 

There is an ucrainian joke along those lines:

 

One time the Good will triumph over the Evil.

It will force the Evil to it´s knees and chop off its head.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

Sten did horrendous things in Origins, still I recruited him so he could find redemption fighting the Blight. Blackwall doesn't seem different to me, I judged him saying he could stay until Corypheus was defeated, then he had to go through the Joining as he was intended to before the real Blackwall's death.

[Saberchic]

Let him rot in jail then, you don't swing the sword but he dies anyway

 

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^This totally.

 

OP, you sound bloodthirsty. Perhaps you are the one who should be judged.

[Teligth]

Sten did horrendous things in Origins, still I recruited him so he could find redemption fighting the Blight. Blackwall doesn't seem different to me, I judged him saying he could stay until Corypheus was defeated, then he had to go through the Joining as he was intended to before the real Blackwall's death.

Although we recruited Sten knowing his crimes and giving him the chance to make amends for it by fighting the blight. Blackwall is is drastically different, especially since in my playthrough I asked "What can one warden do?". He responds "save the f***ing world if pressed." This draws us back to DAO, since the wardens did save Thedas from the blight, but since Black wall isn't a warden he doesn't have those same abilities. If I needed him to track darkspawn we'd be screwed. Especially since he was bs'ing most of the time.

[Eyes_Only]

Blackwall was everything the wardens were. A criminal who got a chance to begin over and do good in the world. And that's what he did minus the actual joining. He just sort of skipped that step. Ok so you can't chop his head off but why the anger? Your HoF could have been a bastard who let people die on Redcliffe, killed the mages in the circle tower, defiled the ashes of Andraste and so much more. And yet he/she is a hero. What made Blackwall any different?

 

Same with Zevren. he assassinated countless people and yet you recruit him. And Sten. Heck Leliana's past isn't as clean as chantry virgin's sheets either.

 

Point is Blackwall deserved the chance to redeem himself. And since my Inquisitor was romancing him, it broke her heart but she gave him another chance. Both with her heart and with her inquisition.

 

Plus beards... get rid of him and no one else on your team has a beard. How is that fair?

[Teligth]

Blackwall was everything the wardens were. A criminal who got a chance to begin over and do good in the world. And that's what he did minus the actual joining. He just sort of skipped that step. Ok so you can't chop his head off but why the anger? Your HoF could have been a bastard who let people die on Redcliffe, killed the mages in the circle tower, defiled the ashes of Andraste and so much more. And yet he/she is a hero. What made Blackwall any different?

 

Same with Zevren. he assassinated countless people and yet you recruit him. And Sten. Heck Leliana's past isn't as clean as chantry virgin's sheets either.

 

Point is Blackwall deserved the chance to redeem himself. And since my Inquisitor was romancing him, it broke her heart but she gave him another chance. Both with her heart and with her inquisition.

 

Plus beards... get rid of him and no one else on your team has a beard. How is that fair?

My god your right..not even the damn dwarf had a beard.

[SetecAstronomy]

I wouldn't say I was disappointed. I think they missed an opportunity to make him undergo the Joining, with the possibility for it to kill him.

[Phoe77]

I'm almost certain I'll never exile him or leave him in prison, so I don't care that the option to kill him isn't there.  I'd never take that one either.  

 

As to the man himself, his past only makes me like him more.  I like heroes who are good and virtuous, but I like them more when there's something meaningful in their background that makes them that way.  

 

Also, beard.  

[Fran-kiki]

Is anyone else disappointed tthat you couldn't sit in judgment on Blackwall to personally execute him? I mean, what he did was horrendous. My Inquisitor wanted to chop off his head!!

I would have cut his head off, if the option was available. But like many things in DA:I there wasn't many options. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I wouldn't execute him. The crimes he committed against the Inquisition don't warrant the death penalty. If I want him executed, I'll leave him in Orlais' hands because the crimes he committed against them do warrant it. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

No reason to execute him for what he did. Exile him? Yes, but he did nothing that warrants killing him.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No reason to execute him for what he did. Exile him? Yes, but he did nothing that warrants killing him.

Butchering a family warrants the death penalty. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Butchering a family warrants the death penalty. 

Was referring to his situation with the Inquisition, not the Orlesians.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Was referring to his situation with the Inquisition, not the Orlesians.

Ah, my mistake. I apologize. 

I agree with you. 

[AtreiyaN7]

Oh gee, here we go again. Now that you're done here, maybe you'd like to go to the DA:O forums and complain that you didn't get to chop off Sten's head/Zevran's head/Leliana's head? I'll say that while what Blackwall did was terrible, he's also truly repentant and is a changed man - kind of like how Sten and Leliana change. Zevran doesn't actually seem to have entirely changed, now that I think about it.

If you get Zevran's help during those war table missions, it seems to me like he's still happily working as, you know, an independent assassin who still kills people for money (as far as I can tell). But hey, the fact that he's your companion from DA:O and is killing someone as a favor to Leliana and the Inquisitor (while making money and thumbing his nose at the Crows) makes things okay, right? I mean, he's clearly morally superior to the (formerly bad) man who's actually been trying to atone for his sins. *sarcasm*

If, after all the dialogue and banter and information that fills in all the details about what happened, you can't see that the situation with Blackwall is more complex than "he ordered a whole family murdered" and refuse to acknowledge things like him not actually knowing that there would be children there that day, then eh - whatever.

Regarding Shelidon's point, by pulling strings or sending in soldiers or using Leliana's deception, you de facto open yourself up to accusations that you abused your power. It seems silly to believe that beheading someone after you really did abuse your power in at least two cases (or gave the impression that you did by calling in a favor) is magically going to make people believe that the Inquisition is fair.

[Dieb]

Blackwall is the "best" and most trustworthy person among all the companions, as far as I'm concerned.

 

His only lie was his identity, and I think that's what his plot is supposed to be about. He lies because he's disgusted by what he did, not to plot take advantage of anyone. There is no agenda, unlike everyone else. Him and Cole are the only ones who prefer helping people, and dislike not helping people

[Bigdoser]

Then we should chop the heads off several DAO companions and even DA2 if that's the case.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I wouldn't say I was disappointed. I think they missed an opportunity to make him undergo the Joining, with the possibility for it to kill him.

If you have the Wardens as allies, this is an option actually. It just doesn't happen during the events of the game. The sentence is essentially "Serve the Inquisition until Corypheus is defeated, then go to the Grey Wardens." 

[SetecAstronomy]

If you have the Wardens as allies, this is an option actually. It just doesn't happen during the events of the game. The sentence is essentially "Serve the Inquisition until Corypheus is defeated, then go to the Grey Wardens." 

Yeah I got that. There were just these things throughout the game that you would find like a Joining cup or a vial of 'spawn blood. Felt like it was setting up for a Joining. Plus the irony of Blackwall finally doing the ceremony after all these years and it killing him would be delicious.