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#51
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Excuse me? But who are you to say "we"? You speak for me? I don't think so my dear. 

I love the multiplayer and met really nice people through it who enjoy the MP too. Everyday I play with a few friends and we've a lot of fun. The devs have also said that there's more to come. 

No one is forcing you to play MP. Microtransacions? No one is forcing you to buy platinum. If someone does that's his own choice. 

 

Nowhere did I say "we feel this way or that way". I said "we" as a community might have gotten a better SP game had there not been MP. Neither did I say "we as a community believe this or that". Not sure where you got that idea from.

 

As to your original question about 'was it forced by EA?', I don't know, but my feeling is, no.  I believe Bioware always wanted to put MP in DA:I and DA:O, in particular.  Perhaps DA2 as well, although the design/setting of the game doesn't lend itself as well to MP.

 

With respect to your opinion about 'integrating' the two making MP more interesting...ah, hell no.  If it requires integration into a SP campaign in order to be enjoyable, it is a failure.  Moreover, we were promised until the devs twitter thumbs were bloody that the two modes would be totally separate and it was on launch.  Changing that now....let's say that wouldn't be the best look and move on.

 

As a general rule, I have no problem with SP affecting MP, but the other way around is a big fat red flag.  It practically screams 'pay to win'.  But if people wanted - and got - to play their Inquisitor in MP matches, that wouldn't bother me in the slightest (as long as nothing they achieved in MP in any way opened up something in SP that couldn't also be unlocked via SP only).

 

If the MP was based on the wartable missions we sent our forces on, it would have been better. Let us be the charger or other INQ forces setting off to set right the wrong of the world.



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Why? WHY?!

Why not?

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I hope that after this and multi from ME3 it won't be tacked to ME4

 

ME3's multiplayer generated enough microtransactions to merit a year's worth of support and maintains a playerbase to this day. On various sites I frequently see positive mentions of it when people discuss the franchise.

 

They'd be pretty stupid to drop a feature that made money and has proven popular.



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ME3's multiplayer generated enough microtransactions to merit a year's worth of support and maintains a playerbase to this day. On various sites I frequently see positive mentions of it when people discuss the franchise.

 

They'd be pretty stupid to drop a feature that made money and has proven popular.

Except the ME3 multiplayer was done well in my opinion. The DAI multiplayer really feels like an afterthought. More of a cash out than the ME MP was.



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What resources? You mean micromanagement? Infinite grinding? Merging MP with SP will give no better result.

And please don't use "we" when you express your opinion.



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What resources? You mean micromanagement? Infinite grinding? Merging MP with SP will give no better result.

And please don't use "we" when you express your opinion.

Seriously? I didn't "we" in the context as speaking for the community. If you look and what I typed I said "we could have gotten a better game", as in the whole community could have gotten a better game. Not "we the community believe". Context clues friend, follow them.



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I really feel like we could have had a better DAI if there wasn't multiplayer/microtransactions shoved into DAI by what I assume was EA.

 

I can't be the only one here who feels this way.

 

Yes/ i've played the multiplayer and it's ok, but with only three stages it gets boring after a few hours. Also there is no reward or significance for participating in it, unlike ME3 (as much as I hated it, it integrated the two together).

Multiplayer is a great extension to single player. We get to be those agents of the inquisition that gets sent on missions. Then in single player we see those agents around Skyhold. I think its pretty cool. 



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Mp is fine I just wish they would have went through with the plan of giving us mp coop campaign to play with a bud or 2 instead of me 3 styles mp.

It's still fun though it just needs more maps and things to do.

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Multiplayer is a great extension to single player. We get to be those agents of the inquisition that gets sent on missions. Then in single player we see those agents around Skyhold. I think its pretty cool. 

How? We get cookie cutter forces to use that lack any emotional attachment. If you somehow saw them at Skyhold, it's because they look like every other random member of the Inquisition. We aren't playing the agents on the missions we have set up on wartable.



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Actually, it seems Bioware's dream have always been that there will be multiplayer in DA games, and remember first they have wanted DAI to be MP ONLY.

Not just MP, they wanted DA;I to be a MMO. That's why we've got so many fetch quests in the SP. I much as I hatet to say this, but I think bioware will make a DA MMO in the near future.



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Not just MP, they wanted DA;I to be a MMO. That's why we've got so many fetch quests in the SP. I much as I hatet to say this, but I think bioware will make a DA MMO in the near future.

 

I'm not sure EA would be willing to fund something like that after TOR underperforming.



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I'm not sure EA would be willing to fund something like that after TOR underperforming.

TOR didn't underperform, TOR was gutted by EA shortly after release even though it sold millions of copies. However, I hated the fact it was shoved into an MMO and that console players got the shaft.



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How did TOR not underperform?

 

They spent around 200 million dollars on it, EA wanted to make a run at WoW not go F2p within a year.



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How did TOR not underperform?

 

They spent around 200 million dollars on it, EA wanted to make a run at WoW not go F2p within a year.

A few months in EA fired most of the Bioware Austin staff. Thusly they couldn't have regular updates and keep the promises they made with content creation. You can't kill a titan like WoW that's been around for a decade in a few months.

 

I live in Austin as well so that particularly sucked.



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Ugh. Every time I read this misinformation, I want to throttle someone. Multiplayer has 4 ability slots. 4! FOUR! F-O-U-R! Single player has more. How is that (8 slots) a MP fault? Someone explain it to me, because I don't get it. Other than people complaining about how "bad" single player is and needing something to blame it on.

 

AGH!


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Ugh. Every time I read this misinformation, I want to throttle someone. Multiplayer has 4 ability slots. 4! FOUR! F-O-U-R! Single player has more. How is that (8 slots) a MP fault? Someone explain it to me, because I don't get it. Other than people complaining about how "bad" single player is and needing something to blame it on.

 

AGH!

People likes to stick with their often incorrect and biased criticisms. They won't accept anything that contradicts with their 'misinformation'.


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How? We get cookie cutter forces to use that lack any emotional attachment. If you somehow saw them at Skyhold, it's because they look like every other random member of the Inquisition. We aren't playing the agents on the missions we have set up on wartable.

 

Wow, you are seriously missing out then !

  • Luka the Alchemist is so off her head with Mushroom addiction that she's hilarious.
  • Rion the Elementalist is so up beat all the time he sparks with the grumpy and miserable Sidony, the Necromancer.
  • And there is drama! Argent the Assassin had a Parakeet. It was blue, but then it died...

These are not cookie cutter characters.


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Wow, you are seriously missing out then !

  • Luka the Alchemist is so off her head with Mushroom addiction that she's hilarious.
  • Rion the Elementalist is so up beat all the time he sparks with the grumpy and miserable Sidony, the Necromancer.
  • And there is drama! Argent the Assassin had a Parakeet. It was blue, but then it died...

These are not cookie cutter characters.

And Neria the Keeper is Pro-Elves. Elves all the time.  :P


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Nowhere did I say "we feel this way or that way". I said "we" as a community might have gotten a better SP game had there not been MP. Neither did I say "we as a community believe this or that". Not sure where you got that idea from.

 

 

If the MP was based on the wartable missions we sent our forces on, it would have been better. Let us be the charger or other INQ forces setting off to set right the wrong of the world.

You still speak for yourself on this forum. So don't use 'we' in ANY case. You use 'we' to address the community. Including me and other people. I'm part of the community and I doubt SP game might have been better without MP.


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The awards where given out by sites and publications weeks before the game was released. These same sites and publication spent weeks hyping up the game while making massive amounts of ad revenue and paid incentives from EA.The game of the year awards mean NOTHING. Because EA out right paid for them. The fact that DA:I won so many awards is proof that gaming journalism is completely corrupt. If you can't see that, you really need to look

Or the most likely that people thought it was a good game as it won both editors and user's choice awards for goty.

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Wow, you are seriously missing out then !

  • Luka the Alchemist is so off her head with Mushroom addiction that she's hilarious.
  • Rion the Elementalist is so up beat all the time he sparks with the grumpy and miserable Sidony, the Necromancer.
  • And there is drama! Argent the Assassin had a Parakeet. It was blue, but then it died...

These are not cookie cutter characters.

 

Not sure where you are finding these names at, i've never seen a single one of these people in my Inquisition camp and in MP they keep saying the same boring phrases like "I've never been tested in all my life!"

 

 

You still speak for yourself on this forum. So don't use 'we' in ANY case. You use 'we' to address the community. Including me and other people. I'm part of the community and I doubt SP game might have been better without MP.

 

I never said I was speaking for anyone, especially you who has taken offense for no reason. Your understanding of the word "we" is flawed.



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Not sure where you are finding these names at, i've never seen a single one of these people in my Inquisition camp and in MP they keep saying the same boring phrases like "I've never been tested in all my life!"

 

 

 

I never said I was speaking for anyone, especially you who has taken offense for no reason. Your understanding of the word "we" is flawed.

Oh maker. There were descriptions! Big words you can't miss. Everyone who played MP know these names. And "I've never been so tested in my life" is spoken by an early character. It's clear that you quitted without any attention paid.



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Not sure where you are finding these names at, i've never seen a single one of these people in my Inquisition camp and in MP they keep saying the same boring phrases like "I've never been tested in all my life!"

 

As others are also saying, there is so much in the multiplayer to enjoy, it just needs more than a momentary glance (or listen) to find it.

Dismissing the format that many people enjoy, on such a thin understanding, is shoddy grounds for a thread, to be honest.

 

And Neria the Keeper is Pro-Elves. Elves all the time.  :P

 

I bet you'd have an elf tending your garden !!



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this game  started out as multiplayer only

 

 

this was a test run for MP campaign in ME4

i am very happy this failed 



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Oh maker. There were descriptions! Big words you can't miss. Everyone who played MP know these names. And "I've never been so tested in my life" is spoken by an early character. It's clear that you quitted without any attention paid.

Can you kindly point out where I can find them? Because i've played the MP for several hours and didn't get past most of those generic phrases? Am I doing something wrong? Maybe the MP was just buggy the two days I played it? Can you find them in at Skyhold and if so where? I need some evidences here.