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robertmarilyn

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I really doubt his plan is that horrific as to wipe out whole peoples from existence. He gives approval to helping people and is concerned about the oppressed. I do think he's a "you have to break a few eggs" kind of guy, but he was desperately trying to stop the Breach from swallowing the world. Would he do that then turn around and become Corypheus himself? He despised Corypheus and his methods.

 

 

I always get hopeful when Solas approves of good deeds and champions helping others but he's so cagey about everything. He won't give a straight answer to anything and I do think that he isn't just helping with the breach out of the goodness of his heart. He wants something (the orb) and we don't know why. I'd love to see more of him and I'd love for him not to be a "bad guy" but we don't know what he's really up to.  :unsure:


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I agree. The idea that Solas has "written off" the modern elves is kind of scary.

I think he's given up on trying to convince them of his way and in essence written them off due to that.  Some elves might have been willing to learn from him and follow him if he hadn't given up.


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Base explanation: I'm African but live out side of it and there African living in Africa. Those African will never say I'm one of their people. Why? Because I'm not. You looking at race to much on the statement of people.

 

 

Solas is quite clearly referring to elves when he says things like 'our people', 'our gods', 'our pantheon' etc. What else could he possibly mean when saying 'our people' in conversations (exclusively) with Lavellan and Sera?

 

 

Look at the circumstances where he uses those words - my people, our people. 

 

The circumstances in which he uses 'our people' are exclusively conversations with modern elves. How can it be referring to anything other than elves?



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I really doubt his plan is that horrific as to wipe out whole peoples from existence. He gives approval to helping people and is concerned about the oppressed. I do think he's a "you have to break a few eggs" kind of guy, but he was desperately trying to stop the Breach from swallowing the world. Would he do that then turn around and become Corypheus himself? He despised Corypheus and his methods.

 

He does approve of helping people when you can but I do think his current plan, which he kicks off by killing his oldest friend, is going to be up there on the horrific scale. If he believed that in the long run elves would be better off as magical immortals then yes he would kill them as they are now and reset the population. He would tear down the Veil to make the world how it used to be, resulting chaos be damned, because he's desperate to fix what he broke. 


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I think he's confused and frustrated.



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Solas is quite clearly referring to elves when he says things like 'our people', 'our gods', 'our pantheon' etc. What else could he possibly mean when saying 'our people' in conversations (exclusively) with Lavellan and Sera?

 

 

The circumstances in which he uses 'our people' are exclusively conversations with modern elves. How can it be referring to anything other than elves?

More of the case he want Sera to be his people. He still looks down on most modern elves.



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I think Solas has an idea about who "his people" are supposed to be , except they don't really exist anymore...

He's left with a bunch of elves who don't have his culture , point of view etc...main thing in common is the pointy ears.

Still , I guess even if they are not what he expected , he feels responsible for their current situation.


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The circumstances in which he uses 'our people' are exclusively conversations with modern elves. How can it be referring to anything other than elves?

 

You have to read the context in light of the revelation of his quasi-godhood. He can't say "my people" as if he's their leader - that would out him in a second. 



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I highly doubt he's given up on modern elves. He feels responsible for their current situation, and based on several of his dialogues he's tried very hard to find a solution. But this is a big problem. How does one man, even a possibly immortal one, go about solving thousands of years of systematic oppression?

 

 

So he feels both responsible and powerless to help. But that doesn't mean that he doesn't care. And he can still care about modern elves while at the same time not seeing them as "his" people. Because, frankly, they aren't. His people are gone. Modern elves are, on a cultural level, so drastically different as to be alien to Solas. You can see this when he talks to Sera.

 

I don't think this means that he wants to kill the lot of them, though. That'd be ridiculous. He knows that they aren't responsible for their own oppression. And in fact, if you play a dalish and befriend him, he expresses multiple times that the Inquisitor has shown them that perhaps the elves are still worth fighting for. I believe that's what's going on in that final sequence. He's made the decision to stop sitting on his hands and give it one last try. Because the People need him.


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He does approve of helping people when you can but I do think his current plan, which he kicks off by killing his oldest friend, is going to be up there on the horrific scale. If he believed that in the long run elves would be better off as magical immortals then yes he would kill them as they are now and reset the population. He would tear down the Veil to make the world how it used to be, resulting chaos be damned, because he's desperate to fix what he broke.

Well I really hope Bioware is not planning to turn him stupid evil. That would be a disappointing waste of a good character.

A lot of people thought this kind of thing about Flemeth and Morrigan, too, after Origins. I think and hope the truth will be more complex.
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Well I really hope Bioware is not planning to turn him stupid evil. That would be a disappointing waste of a good character.

A lot of people thought this kind of thing about Flemeth and Morrigan, too, after Origins. I think and hope the truth will be more complex.

 

I have faith that they won't.

 

Along with Cole, he seems to be one of the companions that most approves of kindness. It would be so strange for them to veer away from that for no reason.