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[Andrew Waples]

in pax south, someone asks a question whether or not the architect will return. I forget his name but he esstentially said yes in a round about way. If you killed him would he have the same abilties as cory? I believe the architect had a "blighted" person with him.

[Farangbaa]

Yes.

And a blighted person being around isn't necessary for him to survive. Corypheus can jump to any blighted body anywhere.

And I'm asuming here the Architect and Cory are both magisters who entered the Fade and started the Blight.

Maybe I should've wiki'd that before I posted. I'ma do that now
Edit: I'm probably very wrong

[X Equestris]

He might have the same powers, if he is indeed a Magister like Cory was.

[Farangbaa]

Yeah, that's the kinda the question I think: is he a magister or not.

I'd say, from what I've read (I have Awakenings, never finished it for some reason though...), that this is the case though. We've only ever have met two intelligent Darkspawn that can talk, and one of them was a magister.

[King Cousland]

Yeah, that's the kinda the question I think: is he a magister or not.

I'd say, from what I've read (I have Awakenings, never finished it for some reason though...), that this is the case though. We've only ever have met two intelligent Darkspawn that can talk, and one of them was a magister.

 

It's confirmed that he is a magister, yes. I'll try to find the interview where this was stated (or perhaps some loremaster has the link handy?). 

 

I'd say it's logical that The Architect has Corypheus' regenerative powers, yes. If he was killed in Awakening, he probably jumped into Utha's corpse or into Seranni. 

[Han Shot First]

I think they should bring the Architect back as a character. 

 

If you killed him, have it impact him by giving the respawn a slightly different/more hostile personality. 

[Kantr]

Yeah, that's the kinda the question I think: is he a magister or not.

I'd say, from what I've read (I have Awakenings, never finished it for some reason though...), that this is the case though. We've only ever have met two intelligent Darkspawn that can talk, and one of them was a magister.

4. The Mother, Corypheus, The Architect and The Messenger (and maybe one of the mothers disciples.)

 

Alpha's can also talk apparently (there's a codex entry on one)

[Farangbaa]

4. The Mother, Corypheus, The Architect and The Messenger (and maybe one of the mothers disciples.)
 
Alpha's can also talk apparently (there's a codex entry on one)

I should really have played Awakenings I suppose, I know none of these

Even though my reasoning was false, apparantly he is a magister, as someone else posted here.

Technically speaking, the Mother is not a darkspawn btw, but a ghoul.

[Super Drone]

The Lore goes back and forth on whether Darkspawn who aren't Disciples, or Corypheus, can talk.  I'm pretty sure Emissaries are called in in D:AO codexes as being called "Emissaries" because they were known to speak.

 

Then talk Darkspawn show up in Awakening and everyone is all "gasp, that's not possible!"

 

Now the codex in DAI indicates Alphas can speak.

 

 

Someone needs to make up their minds. Personally, I think the Darkspawn are more terrifying if they never speak. It makes them alien intelligences, unable to think like humans even enough to communicate with them.

[Ashagar]

It's confirmed that he is a magister, yes. I'll try to find the interview where this was stated (or perhaps some loremaster has the link handy?). 

 

I'd say it's logical that The Architect has Corypheus' regenerative powers, yes. If he was killed in Awakening, he probably jumped into Utha's corpse or into Seranni. 

 

If its the interview I think you are talking, it confirmed that the architect was the same type of character as Corypheus which gives them some wiggle room on the architect's fate anyway.

[In Exile]

The Lore goes back and forth on whether Darkspawn who aren't Disciples, or Corypheus, can talk. I'm pretty sure Emissaries are called in in D:AO codexes as being called "Emissaries" because they were known to speak.

Then talk Darkspawn show up in Awakening and everyone is all "gasp, that's not possible!"

Now the codex in DAI indicates Alphas can speak.


Someone needs to make up their minds. Personally, I think the Darkspawn are more terrifying if they never speak. It makes them alien intelligences, unable to think like humans even enough to communicate with them.

The lore on darkspawn is very messsed up from what most Theodosians know. Keep in mind in DAA we never have any true GWs with us beside the HOF. They broke the lore by having a random seneschal know the Joining but otherwise they keep with the GWs lie to everyone theme.

The talking darkspawn was more the pitch for the players. DAO had indications they had some form of culture.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I remember Gaider assuring us that he wouldn't be back after death, and modifying this assurance using the adverb "obviously." Of course, he might have changed his mind when Cory's existence made that less obvious.

[Anvos]

The answer is we really don't know but Architect has a worse case for being back, as from the archdemon we pretty much know their soul is supposed to go into the closest blighted creature, which in this case would be the party but none of them went strange afterwards, and the same rule seemed to apply to Cory hoping to Larius/Janeka and then the closest surviving enthralled warden.

[Lumix19]

The Lore goes back and forth on whether Darkspawn who aren't Disciples, or Corypheus, can talk.  I'm pretty sure Emissaries are called in in D:AO codexes as being called "Emissaries" because they were known to speak.
 
Then talk Darkspawn show up in Awakening and everyone is all "gasp, that's not possible!"
 
Now the codex in DAI indicates Alphas can speak.
 
 
Someone needs to make up their minds. Personally, I think the Darkspawn are more terrifying if they never speak. It makes them alien intelligences, unable to think like humans even enough to communicate with them.

Well Emissaries are chosen from Alphas (apparently) so it's not a stretch to think that some Alphas could talk as well. I think it's just shocking because Darkspawn don't generally talk to non-Darkspawn. Also note that the Inquisition codex entry on Alphas is part of a classified collection in Tevinter only available to the Magisterium. Hence why few know about it.

[robertmarilyn]

The answer is we really don't know but Architect has a worse case for being back, as from the archdemon we pretty much know their soul is supposed to go into the closest blighted creature, which in this case would be the party but none of them went strange afterwards, and the same rule seemed to apply to Cory hoping to Larius/Janeka and then the closest surviving enthralled warden.

 

Seems like the Architect could have gone into his warden dwarf companion. Oh yeah, except I killed her. But dead isn't dead in DA games. 

[Shechinah]

Could be seen as the potential explaination as to why we never see or hear about Seranni again.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Seems like the Architect could have gone into his warden dwarf companion. Oh yeah, except I killed her. But dead isn't dead in DA games. 

It usually is, so if the Architect does use a loophole we can assume it's not that loophole.

[Andrew Waples]

It usually is, so if the Architect does use a loophole we can assume it's not that loophole.

but doesn't cory take the body of a dead warden at mythal?

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Yes, he does, thus the body can be freshly killed and, with a strong enough will, the magisters can claim it and even reshape it to their own. Cory tells us he gathered the will to return in no form but his own, and we see him resume that form in the freshly killed warden at Mythal's Temple as well. So he did reshape Janika or Larius to his own form.

 

So if this is true.

 

 

THE ARCHITECT

In the Dragon Age 2 downloadable content, Legacy, players discover that Corypheus, an ancient darkspawn, was one of the original Tevinter magisters. I asked David Gaider if the Architect of Dragon Age: Awakening is also a former magister, and if he’ll play a part in upcoming events in the DA universe. “Yeah,” Gaider agreed, “he is the same type of character as Corypheus, absolutely. Whether he pops up, well, possibly. I think so… I mean, obviously not if you killed him.”

Source: http://shallowgraves...n-age-universe/

 

Then the Architect could do the same thing.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Yes, he does, thus the body can be freshly killed and, with a strong enough will, the magisters can claim it and even reshape it to their own. Cory tells us he gathered the will to return in no form but his own, and we see him resume that form in the freshly killed warden at Mythal's Temple as well. So he did reshape Janika or Larius to his own form.

 

So if this is true.

 

Source: http://shallowgraves...n-age-universe/

 

Then the Architect could do the same thing.

Except that Gaider also says in that exact post that he can't.

[X Equestris]

There's still Seranni, whom we never see again. If the Architect has the same powers, it would make sense to jump into her,

[Nefla]

There's still Seranni, whom we never see again. If the Architect has the same powers, it would make sense to jump into her,

Makes sense as she disappears if you kill the Architect.

[Brockololly]

Considering how BioWare basically waved their hands with Leliana's possible death with the elaborate explanation that "She got better," I think its well within the realm of possibility that they could bring back the Architect if they needed him in the story. Assuming he's another magister like Corypheus, it wouldn't seem like a reach that he could somehow jump bodies to Seranni or somebody else.

 

Considering how the whole cure for the Calling thing was at least mentioned a bit in Inquisition, plus how the Architect was involved in Fiona's "cure", I could see the Architect popping up again if they do anything more with that whole cure for the Calling plotline.

[robertmarilyn]

Could be seen as the potential explaination as to why we never see or hear about Seranni again.

 

Oh yeah, he was just keeping her around for his personal body hopping storage, if he needed it.