Oh and btw, dubstep originated from reggae, seeing as we are having this discussion. Its origins are from London, where I grew up. Jungle, Dubstep and Drum and Bass are all derived from reggae in the same way as hip hop is derived from disco. I figured this was common knowledge, at least it is here.
Sure man. So dubstep, jungle, drum & base all originates from reggae you say? Can you elaborate a bit more on how these genres connect? In fact I can help you quite a bit:
Back in the late 60's early 70's one of the genres spawned from reggae, called dub was using the studio equipment to produce echoes and delayed effects while also adding some noises (one of the most original ones being bringing cows into the studio to record their noises) to the track, while also removing and adding the different musical elements and usually removing all or most of the vocals. In essence an instrumental. This was created not only for experimenting purposes but also to fill the B-side of a 7" recording, with a dub track - which again was heavily in demand by the islands popular DJ's, which is something I will get into later. The most credited people for inventing this style of music and studio (ab)use was Lee Perry (the man credited for creating the star Bob Marley among many other reggae singers), King Tubby and Scientist, both studio engineers with a keen interest in both music and technology. Lee Perry was especially known for walking around town recording noises and mumbling into his microphone, while walking backwards and heavily intoxicated by pot and rum. Probably in the end, why he burned his whole studio down.
Anyway, the studio experimenting in dub is therefore credited to have started the musical experimentation with the studio equipment. Hence all electronic music created today can in some way or another credit dub for its experimentational ideas, hence you can say that all electronic music originates from dub which again originated from reggae. What a genre likef.ex. jungle has derived from dub is not only the use of studio as a vehicle for music production, but also one specific thing from the music, namely the bassline, which are usually slow and rolling in both genres. It doesnt borrow the particular reggae rythms, harmonies, guitar licks, horn arrangements, nor the soul vocal that was heavily prevalent in almost every single reggae track that was recorded during its prime days.
Did you know that reggae is also credited for being the inspiration of hip hop, among many other things? The other piece connecting reggae and dubstep. Again, in the 70's Jamaica, the music industry was bustling. No where else in the world could you see such a productivity as far as music and hits goes. A song could be recorded in the moring, turn into a hit in the record store in the evening, and dubbed up by the DJ's all through the night. Jamaica was a in a league of its own, and the reason for that is that people there wanted it. And because people there wanted to party and dance.
This resulted in what they called the reggae soundsystem, which essentially was a DJ travelling around with his decks and his speakers. To create more atmosphere during these parties they incorporated playing 7" B-sides, called dubtracks, or the aforementioned dubs while a person was toasting over the track to build up the atmosphere at the party. This toasting, very similar to what we view as rap, is credited for inspiring early rap and hip hop artists to do the same at street parties in New York and elsewhere in USA, mainly over looped breaks containing everything from James Brown-like funk to the electronic weirdness of Kraftwerk. And of course things like disco. This toasting style is also something you will hear alot in early jungle music and other similar electronic genres. The reggae soundsystems is also the originator of what most people view as reggae today, namely dancehall. Which again, is only a subgenre of reggae. Or a bastard child as I would put it. A far away and distant one, that you never wanna see again.
Just to note here, reggae also has several origins of itself, mainly being a blend between nyanbinghi drumming, mixed with western instrumentation, caribbean mento, calypso and also american soul music. Very influential people here, is Ras Michael and Count Ossie Also the genre ska which can be viewed as a quicker version of reggae, predates the actual genre and was very influential in its creation. Notable people here are Prince Buster, Coxsone Dodd and of course The Skatalites. In the end you might as well say that all western popular music derives from african ritual drumming, brought over from Africa, to south and north america, where it has evolved ever since.
In the end I'll argue that the predating genres to dubstep, like jungle, drum & bass, 2 step, and UK garage has its main origin in breakbeat hardcore which has a more complex rythm than earlier dance music like disco, rave, techno and house with its 4 to the floor, steady beat. The creation of jungle probably derived from breakbeat hardcore mixing with certain exotic cultures like the african and jamaican subcultures of London, resulting in a more exotic sound with not only elements from disco, house and funk but also from the likes of reggae, highlife and afrobeat - with the dancehall toasting culture mixed in. The most influential sound to Jungle (as I view as probably the father of dubsteb, while breaktbeat hardcore is probably the grandfather) is actually something they call "The Amen Break", which is actually a sampled beat from a song called "Amen Brother" by The Winstons, dated back to 1969. I urge you to actually google it.
And saying hip hop comes from disco is to oversimplify, as disco has very little, but still some to do - with the evolution of hip hop.
Do you have anything to add to that Penguin?
TL;DR: Just no, simply no.
If you as musically knowledgeable as you claim then you would know that there is this thing in the musical world called preference. This means that the video is not necessarily ruined for everyone with musical interest. It just means that you don't like the same kind of music as I do.
Thats why I wrote "For me". Maybe I should have written it twice so that it might actually register on your radar. For me, it ruined the video. For me.
And it actually does mean that we dont like the same music, thats correct. Especially if you like dubstep, I cant stand it. Cancer for the ears. I'm more into reggae as you can see. Though not exclusively.
I think it is fitting to end this post with a song showcasing some Nyanbinghi drumming and rastafarian chants:
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