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[Samakar]

 After having such a powerful connection to her from the first game, and reading the comic, as soon as I knew that Liara was around in the game, I was pretty sure Shepherd was gonna at least get a chance to see her again.

When he walked in and they saw each other for the first time in 2 years, it was such a beautiful moment. Just wanna say Bioware, I love you guys for making such a powerful story!

[darksider55]

hey why was that a beautiful moment for you..liara was my li in me1, but in me2 all she did is kiss me then punk me after,so did i miss something????

[MatronAdena]

If you read the comic ( or atleast know what she went through upon shepards death) you will know more than the game alone shares readily...and later in ME2 when talking to Liara when you ask her why she has all this anger she lays out a pretty emotionally powerful bit of info ( that is actually pretty easy to miss)

[Proud Larry]

All she did was kiss you and punk you? She is overworking herself for YOUR benefit, be grateful. You can say she has gotten colder and too focused on her work, but it is because of her hard work that Shep isn't on some collector lab table getting probed before being melted into genetic goo.



At least you got a kiss and nuzzle if you imported her romance, that should sate you until ME3.



Be a good Shepherd and help her out against the Shadow Broker, she might turn up something useful in ME3 for you and maybe rejoin you even.

[darksider55]

so that's it i got to read the comics...man!!! because she punk me, i went with miranda

[Vayrand]

Credit to ratzerman for writing this analysis on Liara in ME2.
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I posted the following in the ME1 Love Interest group last week, but
since there are so many awesome Liara fans in this thread, I thought I'd
share it here too. It's my overly long explanation of how the Liara
missions aren't really about hacking at all. They're about Shepard
breaking down the emotional barriers Liara has put up around herself.
I'd love feedback, positive or negative.....

Liara is a broken
woman, consumed with guilt and regret. But she's insecure, and still
lacks the skills to deal with her feelings effectively. Factor in the
added stress of being under constant surveillance, and it becomes clear
that she has hidden herself behind emotional walls.

And it
becomes Shepard's job to knock down those walls.

As you find out
later, she doesn't want Shepard to know the truth. She doesn't want
Shepard to "hate" her. So she tries to put on a brave face, talks about
having too much work to do, and all that. But she can't pull it off. She
comes off all wrong, and Shepard knows it. That's why you can respond
with an annoyed "what's this all about? Can't you just talk to me?"
Liara doesn't even crack a smile until you offer to help her. First wall
down.

After the first tasks are done, she relaxes a tiny bit.
She says that she "wishes" she could do her work on the Normandy, but
she can't. She also tells you about the Observer. Taking on that
assignment knocks down a second wall. She's still somewhat aloof and
business like, but she's also nervous and agitated; constantly sitting
and standing, and pounding her hand on the desk.

It's not until
the Observer has been dealt with that we get to talk to the real Liara,
and even then, you have to pick the right dialog options. Your chance
comes when Liara makes the "coffee cup" comment. In that moment, she is
raw and angry, and Shepard knows that her defenses are down. So she asks
where her anger is coming from.

And then the floodgates open,
and you see the real Liara, the woman Shepard fell in love with, for the
first time. Everything about her in that moment changes. Her walls
collapse, and she tells you everything. Ali Hillis and the facial
animation team deserve some praise for what they are able to accomplish
in this last scene. When you're finally able to knock down the walls
Liara has built up around herself, and she breaks down and confesses,
it's truly the best piece of NPC acting I've ever seen.

"I gave
it to them Shepard, I gave YOU to them...."

Even then, you have
to encourage her to continue by asking why she didn't tell you this
earlier....

"Because.... I screwed it up, Shepard."

Typing
that out, I can hear it in my head. I can see her face. And it is
heartbreaking. Liara has led a charmed life, being the daughter of a
powerful Matriarch. She spent 50 years excelling in a field of study she
enjoyed, wanting for nothing. She then saved the friggin galaxy and
fell in love along the way. Liara has never known failure. Until now.

And
when she fails..... Whoo Boy, does she ever. Not only did she get Feron
captured, and likely killed, but she also condemned the only person
she's ever loved to a tortured existence, working for an organization
Liara knows she despises. And she didn't even do it for the right
reasons. She did it because she "couldn't let you go."

Why did
she keep this bottled up inside? Because she didn't want Shepard to
"hate" her.

This is other side of the Liara coin. The same social
awkwardness that we all thought was so adorable in the first game is
still at work here. But here, it manifests itself as guilt, some
warranted, some not, and a naive fear of being hated for what she's
done. It also shows up as selfishness, an unwillingness to part with
something (Shepard) that she treasured.

But Shepard is able to
set her straight somewhat, convincing her that she did the right thing.
Liara then smiles warmly, leans forward, and thanks Shepard for saying
that. If there ever was a right moment for a "hug interrupt" it would've
been right then. But no, we don't get that kind of warm and fuzzy
ending. Maybe next time.
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Modifié par Vayrand, 04 février 2010 - 12:33 .

[Proud Larry]

Nadia73 wrote...

And sadly, no matter who you tell her to kill in the 'Observer' mission, nothing changes. It's the same reaction with all the potentials so that's not meant to be solved in ME2 at least.

I was sad she didn't at least hang out with me more after all that we'd had.... *sob*.

Err, I thought you were supposed to tell her that NONE of the suspects match the Observer and she realizes that it is her secretary.

[Caion]

Proud Larry wrote...

Err, I thought you were supposed to tell her that NONE of the suspects match the Observer and she realizes that it is her secretary.

Exactly. It was funny to hear her call her secretary into her office before killing her. You can even ask Liara about that afterwards.

[Sleepicub09]

darksider55 wrote...

hey why was that a beautiful moment for you..liara was my li in me1, but in me2 all she did is kiss me then punk me after,so did i miss something????

here man 

Modifié par Sleepicub09, 04 février 2010 - 12:44 .

[--Master of All--]

Now, now, there's still a possibility the Observer was a female Batarian.

[darksider55]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

darksider55 wrote...

hey why was that a beautiful moment for you..liara was my li in me1, but in me2 all she did is kiss me then punk me after,so did i miss something????

here man 

thanxs buddy..but i guess if i went with miranda that screws my chance with her in me3 (a summing i don't play through it again)

[--Master of All--]

You get this option once you find all five pieces of data, I think. And it's done over the radio.

[Ulathar]

--Master of All-- wrote...

You get this option once you find all five pieces of data, I think. And it's done over the radio.

that's right.

[--Master of All--]

All I can say is that I've done the quest more than once, and each time I had the option to tell her over the radio that none of the suspects fit.

[Ulathar]

Nadia73 wrote...

--Master of All-- wrote...

You get this option once you find all five pieces of data, I think. And it's done over the radio.

Nope, I found all 5 and all it did over the radio was give me all the options of who to kill and 'goodbye'.

You must have to go talk to her in person.

No, it's definately done over the radio. She then asks her assistant to come into her office. When you then walk up to her, her assistant is dead (cause she's the agent) and you get the conversation in the video above.

[Daeion]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

darksider55 wrote...

hey why was that a beautiful moment for you..liara was my li in me1, but in me2 all she did is kiss me then punk me after,so did i miss something????

here man 

Still feel like she punked me even after I got that scene.  Could have at least gone out for cofee with shep....

[Proud Larry]

Nadia73 wrote...

--Master of All-- wrote...

You get this option once you find all five pieces of data, I think. And it's done over the radio.

Nope, I found all 5 and all it did over the radio was give me all the options of who to kill and 'goodbye'.

You must have to go talk to her in person.

If you got all 5 pieces of data correctly, when you contact Liara the entire conversation wheel should have an option on it. Pick the middle right option to complete the quest properly.

[Daeion]

Nadia73 wrote...

--Master of All-- wrote...

You get this option once you find all five pieces of data, I think. And it's done over the radio.

Nope, I found all 5 and all it did over the radio was give me all the options of who to kill and 'goodbye'.

You must have to go talk to her in person.

After you have all 5 pieces of data and you give her a call the  middle right option should be something like none of them. 

[Obadiah]

That extra info Liara has is WAY too easy to miss. I'm not buying the comic to get the rest of that story - I'll wait for the summary on wikipedia.