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Solas would be your best bet, I think, if you can handle the feels. It's left up to your imagination whether he and the Inquisitor ever do the deed. It can easily be interpreted either way. And if I were to peg anyone in the Inquisition as actually being asexual, it would be Solas. After all, he is way more concerned with matters of the Fade and spirits than any physical relationships with others outside the Fade. You need to play a female elf to romance Solas.

 

Josephine is your other option. I've never played her romance yet, but there is no sex scene involved, so you could easily imagine that she and the Inquisitor never consummate their relationship or even that Josie herself is asexual. It's not a huge stretch to imagine that she is ace. One thing in Josie's favor is that you can play a male or female Inquisitor of any race to romance her. She is bisexual, or biromantic if you headcanon she is ace too. :)

 

Thanks for your input! I'm playing as a female elf, and so far I can't choose between Josephine or Solas, though my Inquisitor flirted with both of them. I think both of their romances could be great.



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As an Ace myself, I found Solas and Josie to be really good romances for Asexual roleplay. Especially Josie, she has cute romance scenes. But Solas is my favorite romance in DA:I. :wub:


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That does tend to reflect the RL experiences of some asexual people, though. "He thought I was flirting with him?! I was just trying to be friendly!" :P

 

The not-overtly-sexual nature of many of the flirts in this game is what makes me enjoy choosing them so much. Especially with Dorian and Cassandra on a female character, where it's so very "all in good fun."

 

My goodness, I'm so grateful for the heart icons in DA2 and DA:I. I accidentally started a romance with Zevran in Origins when I didn't realize I had picked a flirt line.  (It's okay, though, I wasn't playing an ace character and he was a perfect match for my Warden - a very lucky accident in retrospect).

 

Whereras now I'm compulsively clicking ALL the hearts with Dorian. :D


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As an Ace myself, I found Solas and Josie to be really good romances for Asexual roleplay. Especially Josie, she has cute romance scenes. But Solas is my favorite romance in DA:I. :wub:

 

I like hearing positive thoughts about the romances from other Aces, as it tends to reassure me that I'll enjoy them too. :)

 

Does anyone else love the various reactions to flirting? Josephine seems oblivious (although I only got to flirt with her once), Solas seems flustered, and Cassandra just goes with it like, "Yeah, I'm a force of nature." I just think it's neat.



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It's not so much of an issue as a simple preference. :)

 

It's like how a heterosexual guy might be a bit uncomfortable playing through Dorian's romance scenes on his first playthrough. I like to have my first playthrough be my canon playthrough, and as such, I usually play my characters as asexuals because that's what I'm comfortable with. Actually, asexuality is about the only thing I "impose" onto my own characters in most games I play. Sometimes I make my characters completely different from myself, but keep them asexual.

 

That being said, I don't always play asexual characters; I just like to. I've romanced characters in the past that I knew would have sex scenes in them, like Morrigan in DAO.

 

Ehh I'm not sure I understand this totally. As a heterosexual male playing through Dorian's romance would not make me uncomfortable, it just would not make me feel anything, at least with respect to sex.



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why didn't they do something like this with Josephine?
I was very disappointed with her romance

it felt too childish but thats just me


Keep in mind that Dorian is the one that initiates in this scene, giving your character the option to go with it or suggest the slow down. In order for it to be consistent with Josephine's personality it seems to me that you would have to be the one to initiate at which point she would turn you down (in a nice way, I'm sure).

 

While this might be realistic, I don't think that the idea "feels good" from a game dev perspective. Here you have progressed to a certain point in a romance with an NPC and most adults playing the game might expect a sexual encounter, especially if they have played the previous DA games or done other DAI romances. Alluding to it and having the character respond negatively, even if it's just "I'm not ready for this yet," might not sit well with many players. Game devs have more to consider than realism. They also craft stories, scenes, and relationships to be evocative of certain emotions. Granted, players don't always respond in the desired way, as seen with DA2's zombie!mom or the post-Haven The Dawn Will Come camp sing along, but the developer intention is there. Players call it the "Disney Romance" and I think that this feeling was intentional on the part of the devs.



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Just coming in here to say that I've beaten the prologue, and I've gone into the Hinterlands. Before that, I was talking to everyone, and I was shocked to see that even as a female you can flirt with Cassandra. She doesn't even react badly at all.

I'm wondering whether you can flirt with all romance options regardless of what gender or race you are? If so, that's pretty great.

 

Not Solas or Blackwall, which have no flirts whatsoever unless they are available to you. Cullen has very limited options which cut off in Haven fast (as in, the second flirt is your last flirt)

Makes we wonder if race-gated Solas would have expressed interest in other Inqis if only ever ignored his expectations and flirted with him. :P And why couldn't we? Why couldn't my Inqi who OWED SOLAS their LIFE during the prologue promise to protect him just because he was a dwarf? (And also a man?)

 

I like hearing positive thoughts about the romances from other Aces, as it tends to reassure me that I'll enjoy them too. :)

 

Does anyone else love the various reactions to flirting? Josephine seems oblivious (although I only got to flirt with her once), Solas seems flustered, and Cassandra just goes with it like, "Yeah, I'm a force of nature." I just think it's neat.

 

Cass, Sera, and Dorian all have full flirts if they're out of your pool, iirc (excluding the ones that are responses to their flirts, like "how pretty are you").

Cass takes them pretty much the same, as compliments (w/ cute smiles!)...

...and Sera mostly ignores them or says something cheeky. (Unless you're an elf. She doesn't like elves. Romancing her as an elf is incredibly difficult, esp. compared to qunari.)

Dorian sees it as a game and will flirt madly back, which is great.

 

Bull and Josie are obv available for anyone regardless of their CC options, so there's no such thing as incompatible flirts ;)

 

 

As for Blackwall, what you say on the battlements (you'll know what that means when you get there) is what locks him. If you DON'T take the flirt there, he is no longer in the dating pool and you lose all flirts. If you DO take it, he is the ONLY one in the dating pool (also known as "locked in"). All other flirts (eg: charming, admiring) are safe.

 

 

It's interesting that some of the "flirts" in this game are actually more about expressing respect or just a bit of humor and not "let's do the mattress mambo until the bed breaks down". I'm of two minds about that. On one hand, I guess it helps if you want to test the waters with a character without coming on too heavy, especially if going for an asexual relationship. On the other hand, these "flirts" are so non-flirty that it feels weird when they are treated as an expression of sexual/romantic interest and not simply as friendly banter.

 

I felt like some of those so-called 'flirts' made for better lines than the others, like telling Cass she can do anything she wants to, or complimenting Dorian instead of just brushing him off or insulting him.

...but then, I've always seem the 'flirts' as two-way street. The heart doesn't always mean you flirting with them, it's a 'warning' icon that means you're opening a path into romance territory. I see it as a way of them warming up to you, because you're so damn charming/supportive/cute.


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Makes we wonder if race-gated Solas would have expressed interest in other Inqis if only ever ignored his expectations and flirted with him. :P And why couldn't we? Why couldn't my Inqi who OWED SOLAS their LIFE during the prologue promise to protect him just because he was a dwarf? (And also a man?)

Ha! Well we can't go confusing the poor man. ;) What if he develops feelings for your dashing and supportive dwarfquisitor?

 

Wow, now I kinda want to see a romance between Solas and a male dwarf.


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Here you have progressed to a certain point in a romance with an NPC and most adults playing the game might expect a sexual encounter, especially if they have played the previous DA games or done other DAI romances. Alluding to it and having the character respond negatively, even if it's just "I'm not ready for this yet," might not sit well with many players.

 

And yet this is exactly what BioWare had a LI in Origins do. In II they went even further and came up with the whole "chaste marriage" thing. They're not - or at least they used not to be - afraid of potentially eliciting a negative reaction from part of their fanbase if there's a certain story they want to tell with a character. And good on them for that, because there are people out there who'll object to anything. Like, it seems the fact that you were able to potentially become engaged to Zevran was bad and wrong because the option wasn't there for all the other LIs too.... :huh:

 

I can't see BioWare going the whole way and actually having an asexual LI in the game, though. As fascinating as that would be.



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Ha! Well we can't go confusing the poor man. ;) What if he develops feelings for your dashing and supportive dwarfquisitor?

 

Wow, now I kinda want to see a romance between Solas and a male dwarf.

 Mmm yes, now so do I. Or at least a subverted version. >>"

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And yet this is exactly what BioWare had a LI in Origins do. In II they went even further and came up with the whole "chaste marriage" thing. They're not - or at least they used not to be - afraid of potentially eliciting a negative reaction from part of their fanbase if there's a certain story they want to tell with a character. And good on them for that, because there are people out there who'll object to anything. Like, it seems the fact that you were able to potentially become engaged to Zevran was bad and wrong because the option wasn't there for all the other LIs too.... :huh:

 

I can't see BioWare going the whole way and actually having an asexual LI in the game, though. As fascinating as that would be.

That is basically Sebastian though (having an asexual LI). Even though he doesn't identify as asexual, he still chooses to abstain from sex, and you have to abide by that if you want to be with him. Definitely the closest thing we've gotten.

 

I personally tend to view Josie as a more "wait til marriage" type of gal, rather than asexual. However, I'm sure it's easy to headcanon her as asexual.

 

I personally hope they don't add an asexual romance. As LGBT-friendly as bioware is, there are just so many different sexualities out there, it's not really possible to have a character that represents each one of them. But so far, we've seen a transexual man, transexual woman, a gay character, a lesbian character, and a lot of bisexual characters. Gaming has come a long ways from having no gay/bisexual male options in ME1.

 

However, I do wish they would make the majority, if not all of, romances asexual-friendly. It would be nice if they added more options like they did with Dorian, where you have the option to refuse sex without ending the relationship, but those that want to see a sex scene can opt to do it. It's perfectly reasonable for it not to be optional with say, Iron Bull, but I'm honestly surprised Cullen and Cassandra's romances didn't have that option to refuse sex, since they seem like people who would be okay with waiting on or not having sex with their partner as long as they luv each other forever. 

 

Who knows, maybe they'll add Cole as a LI option in the next game and he'll be the asexual option. :P


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The heart doesn't always mean you flirting with them, it's a 'warning' icon that means you're opening a path into romance territory. I see it as a way of them warming up to you, because you're so damn charming/supportive/cute.


OH this is a great way of looking at it.
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Sebastian is the closest we've gotten, yeah, but the chastity thing is only if you friendmance him. It's not quite the same as someone who makes it clear they're not really interested in sex at all, ever, no matter what the PC does. But including a LI with that mindset would indeed get a lot of people complaining, I imagine.



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Personally the romances in this if that's what you want to call them! are keyed to asexual's, they are all very flat, almost non existent, have very little meaning and well aren't really worth following, the past games did romances far far better, here its just fluff and very little at that..

 

You are better off leaving the romances alone as all the companions are pretty bad.



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I haven't gotten to play the game yet (ugh!) due to life reasons, but I do mostly know what I want to do in my first playthrough (classes and such wise). I'm just not sure what romance I'm going to go for, as I know next to nothing about the romance options other than their orientations.

 

I'll probably play as either a Qunari or an Elf.

 

I'm asexual, and I tend to avoid da sexy scenes in games. I also usually roleplay asexual characters, so I'd appreciate a heads up from you guys letting me know what romances I could roleplay as asexual. I'm pretty sure Iron Bull is off-limits. :P

I don't care about the gender of the romance option, as long as I don't have to watch my Inquisitor naked porking them.

 

Thanks in advance to anyone who gives suggestions!

 

As a fellow ACE, I  recommend Solas, for story/plot reasons. Some of the comments can be implied to be sexual, but they are vaugeish. Josiphine is good as well.



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I felt like some of those so-called 'flirts' made for better lines than the others, like telling Cass she can do anything she wants to, or complimenting Dorian instead of just brushing him off or insulting him.

 

Full agreement. That "you can do anything" line in the aftermath of her personal quest was the perfect example of a situation in which the "flirt" worked so much better at expressing support, respect and/or friendship than the generic lines. These "non-flirty flirts" should either not be flirts, IMO, or be available to everyone regardless of gender/race/class. Like you say, why can't non-female, non-elf Inquisitors promise to protect Solas?

 

...but then, I've always seem the 'flirts' as two-way street. The heart doesn't always mean you flirting with them, it's a 'warning' icon that means you're opening a path into romance territory. I see it as a way of them warming up to you, because you're so damn charming/supportive/cute.

 

That makes a lot of sense, yes.



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Personally the romances in this if that's what you want to call them! are keyed to asexual's, they are all very flat, almost non existent, have very little meaning and well aren't really worth following, the past games did romances far far better, here its just fluff and very little at that..

 

You are better off leaving the romances alone as all the companions are pretty bad.

 

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Full agreement. That "you can do anything" line in the aftermath of her personal quest was the perfect example of a situation in which the "flirt" worked so much better at expressing support, respect and/or friendship than the generic lines. These "non-flirty flirts" should either not be flirts, IMO, or be available to everyone regardless of gender/race/class. Like you say, why can't non-female, non-elf Inquisitors promise to protect Solas?

Yeah, I really wish that could've been an option that was open to all Inquisitors. I really liked that line. It was perfect for my Inquisitor, and much more subtle than I'd come to expect from Bioware games.



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So wait, from what I hear, there can be a few ace-like romances if you play them in a certain way. But most people think either Josephine or Solas are the most asexual romances? Is that correct?

 

There is no way to get a sex scene with Josephine and Solas, so if you want to avoid entirely that's your best bet. Blackwall and Dorian do have sex scenes, but its optional.

 

I think Cullen would be a nice choice. You DO have sex with him if you romance him, but theres no graphic scene like in some of the other romances. And hes just so adorkable and cares about you so much- and gets all nervous and everything! It's really cute! There is a moment where you lie down on his desk and make out fully clothed though. And after, your fully dressed PC is leaving and has a conversation with a fully nude Cullen about mushy feelings on his bed. So you did sleep together, but you don't really 'see' it happen.

 

Actually, I'm realizing a lot of the flirts you have to do to initiate the romance ARE pretty sexual. In fact, you fluster him. I don't think theres any other flirts possible though- you have to ask if he took a vow of celibacy. So, maybe not right for an asexual inquisitor! He is a fun romance though.



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There is no way to get a sex scene with Josephine and Solas, so if you want to avoid entirely that's your best bet. Blackwall and Dorian do have sex scenes, but its optional.

 

I think Cullen would be a nice choice. You DO have sex with him if you romance him, but theres no graphic scene like in some of the other romances. And hes just so adorkable and cares about you so much- and gets all nervous and everything! It's really cute! There is a moment where you lie down on his desk and make out fully clothed though. And after, your fully dressed PC is leaving and has a conversation with a fully nude Cullen about mushy feelings on his bed. So you did sleep together, but you don't really 'see' it happen.

 

Actually, I'm realizing a lot of the flirts you have to do to initiate the romance ARE pretty sexual. In fact, you fluster him. I don't think theres any other flirts possible though- you have to ask if he took a vow of celibacy. So, maybe not right for an asexual inquisitor! He is a fun romance though.

Well, for the playthough I'm doing currently (my first playthrough) I'm probably going to romance Josie or Solas. But I'll eventually romance Cullen in one of my later playthroughs. He seems to have developed a lot more since DAO/DA2, and although I wasn't the biggest fan of him before, I like him as much as the next character now (except if that character happens to be Varric). :)



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No, no, no, Cullen's "vow of celibacy" flirt is NOT required. You can avoid it completely (which I usually do, though his reaction is worth seeing at least once). And none of his other flirts are sexual at all. Believe me, I've played that romance through enough times - I'm embarrassed to say how many :rolleyes: - to know.



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I like hearing positive thoughts about the romances from other Aces, as it tends to reassure me that I'll enjoy them too. :)

 

Does anyone else love the various reactions to flirting? Josephine seems oblivious (although I only got to flirt with her once), Solas seems flustered, and Cassandra just goes with it like, "Yeah, I'm a force of nature." I just think it's neat.

 

Solas is really smooth when it comes to flirting, before release I always thought he would be a (romantically) shy romance, but that is not the case. He flirts back and is confident (especially at the Winter Palace). He has a great romance arc, but I don't want to spoil anything  ;) 


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Solas is really smooth when it comes to flirting, before release I always thought he would be a (romantically) shy romance, but that is not the case. He flirts back and is confident (especially at the Winter Palace). He has a great romance arc, but I don't want to spoil anything  ;)

 

The first couple of flirts he seems... Reluctant? I don't know whether that's the right word. Since I'm not advancing much in the story (only got to Val Royeaux and recruited Sera, Vivienne, and Blackwall), I haven't gotten to flirt much with Solas. I should probably leave the Hinterlands now and do more story things...


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The first couple of flirts he seems... Reluctant? I don't know whether that's the right word.

He's...hesitant. I mean, he definitely knows you're flirting with him. And he tentatively flirts back. But he's unsure of why you're flirting with him.  :lol:  I do recall he gets a bit flustered by one of the early flirts though, which was adorable, especially because he's usually so damn unflappable.



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