Im speaking the truth. I helped countless people get their game to work by private messaging. What I don't have patience for are stubborn lazy people who hate change and are unwilling to adapt.
Good of you to do that. The problem is that Bioware are the ones that should be helping customers get their games working, not forum users.
Im speaking the truth. I helped countless people get their game to work by private messaging. What I don't have patience for are stubborn lazy people who hate change and are unwilling to adapt.
What I don't have patience for are stubborn lazy people at Bioware, who hate PC gaming, but spit out lies in order to increase sales figures.
What I don't have patience for are stubborn lazy people who hate change and are unwilling to adapt.
That's BS. As primarily a PC gamer, i've played almost every BioWare product since BG's in 98 and LOVED every single one of them, including the console port releases where the PC market was ignored and just an afterthough(Jade Empire, KOTOR, ME series). Each of those were quite different in story, RPG mechanics and introduced "change" that made one different from past releases. I didn't even have to think about "adapting" or "molding to change", i just sat down, went with the flow and said to myself Wow another great product from BioWare.
As loyal and dedicated as I was to BioWare for many years, I won't offer them blind devotion, something brought on starting with the second DA.
And its the same old song. Ive heard it all the way back even when Origins came out and people will be whining when DA4 comes out.
You are NOT happy because you did NOT get what you wanted. Its that simple. Please stop assuming you are speaking for everybody.
Oh and didn't you troll the forums before and blamed your friend on it?
1 - Of course Origins butchered a lot of good things from DnD. As I said you are right, because Bioware keep removing options from games. It is obvious that DA4 will be even more dumbed down, and of course people will complain, not me, I will not buy.
2 - I never assumed anything so, no need to stop assuming. On the contrary, I am pretty sure NOBODY shares my preferences, nor here, nor anywhere else. I talk to people, I know nobody agrees with me, not in real life, not in internet. But the funny thing is that even with nobody agreeing with me previous Bioware game offered me the freedom to do what I wanted, they were not made for me, but they used to work for me, because they had more options. A game made for me would sell nothing, even the smallest indie company would break. I never wanted for them to make a game for me. I just wanted OPTIONS. Now are you really trying to argue that less customization is indeed goood? Less customization needs adaptation? What the hell? If a game gets less and less classes and races with time I sould adapt? So I just quit a character concept that makes me happy and play another that I can't relate to? Is this what are you calling adaptation?
3 - You are obviously addressing gameplay problems and pretending it is the game problem. What I tried to say is that I had absolutely no gameplay problems but still, game lacks options. Talk about this, Talk about less customization. Talk about having only one specialization and the BAD things about it. The good thing I acknowledge, for some people having one specialization is more interesting because it defines your character better, specially because people recognize your specialization in game, it is not just a gameplay mechanics anymore. Ok, I understand that for people who like this crap setting and crap game this is interesting. But can you acknowledge that for people who like options character building became VERY limited? Or are you just going to pretend that less options is good for everyone?
Also... like Lebanese dude and others... you focus on ONE kind of player. Yes, the game became A LOT better for one kind of player. But more options means more people could enjoy the game. If I don't see myself as one of the three (arguably 9) archetypes they offered me, what should I do? Adapt and play a class I dislike? 9 specialization where you can only choose one and 2 weapon styles... Can you understannd how limited is that for people who like dozens of classes with dozens of weapons variations? It is not about not being what I wanted, I mean, yes it is, but what I wanted is what Bioware gave me in BG, IWD and NWN. Then I adapted in DAO, accepted the limitations, the lack of classes and weapons. But a person who loves complex and exotic, how can I have joy in Inquisition?
The whole point of my post is, and I'd like you to answer:
1 - For me, and anyone like me, people who's preferences aren't covered by any of Inquisition classes/skills/equipment combinations. In name of adaptation we should forsake our identities and roleplay something we have absolutely no interest in to?
2 - And also, are you telling me that less options, which made me unable to create a combination to represent me, in a RPG, is a good thing? Seriously.
And to be clear, as I have stated here many times the main classes I like and I have not been able to play since DA2:
1 - Monk (I managed to play unarmed with all three classes in DAO, full STR warrior, full CUN rogue and full MAG arcane warrior)
2 - Dancer (Bard, very few RPGs have a dancer, but usually bard or some other class fits the dancer concept)
3 - Cleric of certain god(esse)s (In Forgotten Realms: Sune, Sharess, Hanali Celanil, Eilistraee and sometimes some more classic like Tyr)
Since I also like swashbuckler Assassin+Duelist kind of worked for me in DA2, Spirit Healer+Force Mage was acceptable, I had an epic duel with Arishok where neither would die for almost an hour, I didn't have damage and he couldn't kill me, and Reaver+Templar felt outrageous, daring, blasphemous. But the thing is that if I had only one specialization in DA2 only the duelist would work for me, and not much at that.
So I seem to be able to understand that this limitation contributes to character identity but you seem unable to understand that less options make the game uninteresting for a lot of people.
Why doo you, and many others, focus on the aspects you like to explain why the game is great while completely neglecting the aspects of this game that became worse and worse each time?
In short, when you say "it is not the game you want" - yes, it is not, so what? I should like and adapt to thing I don't like? Why is that exactly? You, like a lot others here seem to have personal moral as arguments. Despite adapting being a good thing in your mind, it is not an argument.
I am logically explaining that less options means less people able to represent themselves with their caracters and even those who can it means less variation and oportunity to create something unique. You come and "ADAAAAPT!!!11!" What the hell does adapting even means in this case? It imeans hattever they do I should accept and play? Why is that? What does you adapt mean? Mean people should let go of their preferences?
Now if your adapt means, the game is not flawed, it just didn't meet your expectations. Then, by all means, you are 100% wrong about me, I already accepted and publically stated, a lot of times, that Inquisition is a great game, almost perfect. I just isn't my game. And even if in your mind people should be robots eating any **** bioware poos out, no, they aren't, and I can complain freely. But no, I never said game is bad, it is all about my opinion, and I'm sorry if I sounded like it was not. I can state as many times as you want that Inquisition is great, I couldn't care less. It is not and never was about the quality of the game, it is of course about ME, it always is, in everybody's case, despite sometimes people thinking they are being rational, fair and just, no it is always all about preferences and I pity the childish minds who thinks it is possible not to be personal, it is always personal.
So, Inquisition is a great game. Doesn't work for me. Do not wrok for a lot of people. Not because we are lazy and need to adapt but because game offers less options in EVERYTHING and thus it will not allow a lot of people who like building characters. Inquisition was obviously made for people who enjoy the story and the gameplay, not for people who like building characters. Inquisition was made for people to play the game, not for players who played BG, IWD and NWN, that played DnD, that liked to spend hours, days or perhaps even months planning the perfect character sheet to sometimes not even play more than a couple of sessions.
Now, am I saying it should be? No. I'm saying this is what I would like. And I am also saying that A LOT of Bioware fans had this joy before, now it is impossible. I'm saying that there were people who were all about creating the character and Bioware completely forgot abou them. It is their option, Bioware does whatever they want, but it is perfectly reasonable to hate and not play a game that took away from a frachise the features that made you play it. And "overreactions" are normal when you had those features for 15 years.
Now could please answer without using anything moral as argument? Lazy is not an answer. Adapt is not an answer. In fact you values are not reason for anything, nor are they arguments, there is no point at all in bringing them except for expressing your opinion in which case I have nothing against them, but stop pretending you can make a point with calling people lazy as if lazy was a bad thing. Lazy is bad for you, cool, it is very personal, ok, I know, and a lot of people here know you don't like lazy, but sometimes you sound very crazy as if lazy was universally a bad thing and it is not. So unkess you intend on creating "The Church against lazyness and other things I hate because they are the official truth of the universe" I don't think you should make points with your values anymore.
I don't think anyone is obligated to adapt to the many changes BioWare have made to their games and systems since their D&D days - but I also think it's clear which direction the wind has been blowing in for a long time. It's highly unlikely that there will ever been another BioWare game in which I can play a dwarf Fighter/Cleric, which I had a blast doing back in the day. And that's OK.
The thing I find bewildering is why people who find the combat mechanics, classes and races in Dragon Age too restrictive are still here. This latest installment has more races than the previous instalments (one of which had no race selection at all) and more impact from specialisation choice. I think that's probably as good as it's going to get from that point of view. If this isn't good enough, why play the game in the first place? Why not back Shadowrun: Hong Kong on Kickstarter, or wait for Pillars of Eternity if the high fantasy setting is that important? I don't think BioWare want to make the type of game where I can play a halfling swashbuckler any more, but there are plenty of indie developers doing that anyway.
I'm glad that some annoying issues in BioWare games aren't severe enough for me to actively hate the company and all who work there. I'm glad that I can immerse myself in their worlds and stories and share my enthusiasm with others. I'm glad I'm not a miserable person.
The most passive aggressive attack I've seen on the forums. You may not be a miserable person with your product, but I bet you are a miserable person with people in general. You don't need to come and insult the people on the BSN just to get your point across. I'll report your post and every other post I find mildly attacking others.
This is the feedback forum, you are going to get people who are angry or happy with the game. If you don't like negative feedback, and this is aimed at everyone, pull out your ignore button or something. It's people like you that gets threads locked and I'm tired of it.
The most passive aggressive attack I've seen on the forums. You may not be a miserable person with your product, but I bet you are a miserable person with people in general. You don't need to come and insult the people on the BSN just to get your point across. I'll report your post and every other post I find mildly attacking others.
This is the feedback forum, you are going to get people who are angry or happy with the game. If you don't like negative feedback, and this is aimed at everyone, pull out your ignore button or something. It's people like you that gets threads locked and I'm tired of it.
I think what the other person is trying to say is this: "Critical thought serves nobody. Make it go away!"
I don't think anyone is obligated to adapt to the many changes BioWare have made to their games and systems since their D&D days - but I also think it's clear which direction the wind has been blowing in for a long time. It's highly unlikely that there will ever been another BioWare game in which I can play a dwarf Fighter/Cleric, which I had a blast doing back in the day. And that's OK.
The thing I find bewildering is why people who find the combat mechanics, classes and races in Dragon Age too restrictive are still here. This latest installment has more races than the previous instalments (one of which had no race selection at all) and more impact from specialisation choice. I think that's probably as good as it's going to get from that point of view. If this isn't good enough, why play the game in the first place? Why not back Shadowrun: Hong Kong on Kickstarter, or wait for Pillars of Eternity if the high fantasy setting is that important? I don't think BioWare want to make the type of game where I can play a halfling swashbuckler any more, but there are plenty of indie developers doing that anyway.
I agree with you on this. After the shite that is Mass Effect 3, I decided to wait first, to wait for reviews and then decide if I want to buy DAI.
I ended up saving quite a bit of money not buying the game, doing one playthrough on my friends' PC (who bought the game) and watching the rest on FluffyNinjaLlama, Kinetic GTR & Dana Duchy's YouTube channels. Talk about being thrifty. I decided to drop the money I saved on Shadowrun, Pillars of Eternity, Torment and Witcher 3.
Perhaps in the future, when DAI is 15 bucks or something, then I might buy it for myself.
I'm glad that some annoying issues in BioWare games aren't severe enough for me to actively hate the company and all who work there. I'm glad that I can immerse myself in their worlds and stories and share my enthusiasm with others. I'm glad I'm not a miserable person.
Hm, that last sentence is a stinger. Who are you referring to as being a miserable person? Is that me, or us, the gamers that complain about bugs and glitches? I can't think of any other reason for you saying this than the reason that you think that complainers are miserable people. You'll have to come with quite the explanation to be able to talk yourself out of this. 
*Some* of the posters here are miserable people.
The guy on the photo is Mike not Mark Darrah.
I know. I didn't mean to offend anyone, I just thought he seemed funny in that photo. And the mods gave me another warning point for "abusive behaviour". As if I raped him or somebody else.
The guy on the photo is Mike not Mark Darrah.
That's Mike laidlaw I know who that is and as far as I'm concerned He's the Dude that change Dragon age for some The Better for me the worst.....The guy on the photo is Mike not Mark Darrah.
um a yeah No I'm not miserable me and my daughter are watching the Lego movie I finally paid off my car Note I'm building a New PC My 14 year old son is all state in his High school my job is great I get to do a lot of Traveling life is Good my Friend Dragon age inc...... Is not*Some* of the posters here are miserable people.
Well that's unfortunate.
I will be forever hooked on the series and unlike DA2, I'll definetly be buying all of the available DLC this game has to offer. EA has definetly earned my money, sorry you don't feel the same way.
I'm glad that some annoying issues in BioWare games aren't severe enough for me to actively hate the company and all who work there. I'm glad that I can immerse myself in their worlds and stories and share my enthusiasm with others. I'm glad I'm not a miserable person.
I dislike these kind of people.
People, if you have no issues with the game, do not tell those having issues with the game how wrong we are. I seriously hate people with such an attitude. I am glad you like the game and have no issues with it. Just because it works properly on your system, it doesn't mean it works properly for us too. This is a feedback forum. We have the right to express our opinion and you do not have the right to belittle us. Bashing angry and unsatisfied players is downright unacceptable.
Totally dumbed down! Only for 10'year olds who use consoles! How could they ruin such a potentially good game....kb/m a joke! I
Anyway, got me back to playing Skyrim again...lots of lovely mods!..no such luck with DOI....!
Will not play until they have fixed PC controls....probably never.... Ingeborg
I want to clarify my post. If you have bugs or general technical issues, you are justified in complaining about it. The problem is that a lot of these people with technical issues also seem to enjoy bashing every aspect of the game, and like to declare that BioWare hates the PC market and intends to personally insult all PC gamers. They also like to imply that anyone who enjoys the game is a dumb casual that doesn't understand what Dragon Age should be. This is insane, and it should be ridiculed. It also doesn't help that people always have a doom-and-gloom attitude towards every game that BioWare releases.
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