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#101
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No...and that's why you have a war table.. .so you can assign agents to do the work for you.

 

Are you even trying? 

 

Show me how I can assign an agent to get that ram back to his farmer and we can proceed that particular line of argument.

 

Or better yet, tell me why I should be bothering with a single farmer and his ram when there's a hole in the sky?



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Show me how I can assign an agent to get that ram back to his farmer and we can proceed that particular line of argument.

 

You have next to no agents at that point dear..your Inquisition just formed. -_-

 

Later zones typically have no such fetch quests at all... Well except for

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Or better yet, tell me why I should be bothering with a single farmer and his ram when there's a hole in the sky?

 
Answered that in my previous post. Not gonna repeat myself. :)


#103
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You have no agents at that point dear..your Inquisition just formed. -_-

 

Hardly an argument.

 

I could just aswell meta game and leave this quest for last just before I finish the game. I'll have a fully built up Inquisition. Still have to do it myself. It's a quest for the sake of having a quest. A filler. With no relevance to the greater scheme. A single farmer won't empower the Inquisition. Neither would he harm the Inquisition if he was ignored.

 

 

 

Answered that in my previous post. Not gonna repeat myself. :)

 

Right, because meta gaming is equal to story relevance. If such were the case my above counter about the "no agents yet" point would be be just as valid and we'd be back at square one: why does the Inquisitor have to do it himself?



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You have next to no agents at that point dear..your Inquisition just formed. -_-

 

Later zones typically have no such fetch quests at all... Well except for

 

Spoiler

I love that quest it goes beyond a typical fetch quest..


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#105
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Hardly an argument.

 

I could just aswell meta game and leave this quest for last just before I finish the game. I'll have a fully built up Inquisition. Still have to do it myself. It's a quest for the sake of having a quest. A filler. With no relevance to the greater scheme. A single farmer won't empower the Inquisition. Neither would he harm the Inquisition if he was ignored.

 

At that point, it transitions to an altruistic deed for your Inquisitor to do. It's manifested in giving you relatively pointless rewards at that point.
(Game representation of power: +1 power when you have 100 is nothing compared to +1 power when you have none).

 

If you're going to completely ignore the logical progression of the story, then you should be able to headcanon any solution to justify your approach :)



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More Dragon Age is always a good thing. :)

 

Looking forward to playing future installments!


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I try not to be too critical. I really do love this series.



#108
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At that point, it transitions to an altruistic deed for your Inquisitor to do. It's manifested in giving you relatively pointless rewards at that point.
(Game representation of power: +1 power when you have 100 is nothing compared to +1 power when you have none).

 

 

Highlighted the important part.

 

I just saved the entire village. One man more is not making a significant difference. Only emphasized by the fact that you can easily finish the game without needing to complete most of the available quests.

 

It remains that helping one man is of no importance regarding the grand scheme. Not in the end and neither in the beginning, there's enough quests with tangible relevance to the story (Horse Master Dennet, the Hinterland watchtowers, the Rifts) that once completed grant you enough power to proceed with mainquests and/or opening other regions without bothering to complete other quests. He is trivial and unnecessary. In other words, his existence merely fills what would be empty or populated with a NPC you can't interact with. A quest for the sake of having a quest.



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 if you can't enjoy DA: I get out of gaming. 

I was out of gaming. I was into Bioware character builders and combat simulators. If they told me DAI was a game I would have never bothered. Seriously.



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It remains that helping one man is of no importance regarding the grand scheme. Not in the end and neither in the beginning, there's enough quests with tangible relevance to the story (Horse Master Dennet, the Hinterland watchtowers, the Rifts) that once completed grant you enough power to proceed with mainquests and/or opening other regions without bothering to complete other quests. 

 

You're completely side-eyeing any notion of a side quest at this point :o

 

As I said, it seems you'd fit better with a tighter hand-held narrative game like DA2 rather than one that gives you options.

That's not a bad thing though.



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With even more simplified combat and barer bones story and a cash grab MP I'm sure


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You're completely side-eyeing any notion of a side quest. 

 

Call it RPing a pragmatic Inquisitor, what then?

 

 

I'm not side-eyeing side quests. I'm side-eyeing those that I think don't fit the game.



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I admit, this did make me chuckle. Well done.

 

Now if you'll excuse me while I save it to my files...



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If I remember correctly, you could finish both other Dragon Age games without doing a majority of the quests available.  I'd hazard a guess that you can complete most games while ignoring a majority of the quests.  

 

I'm glad that not everything we do relates to the breach or the main bad guy.  Not every bad thing in the world is going to relate back to one common source.  If it bothers you that the ram isn't tied to the breach (or is he?), then don't do that quest.  There are actually plenty of things to do in the game with either a clear benefit  or a tie to the main goal of the Inquisition.  

 

At least there are if you're willing to look even a little bit past the surface.



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Call it RPing a pragmatic Inquisitor, what then?

 

 

I'm not side-eyeing side quests. I'm side-eyeing those that I think don't fit the game.

 

 

...now you're using a specific case to make a point? 

 

One could use the same argument for a human supremacist not touching a Dalish with a 10-foot pole, or a Dalish elf avoiding Chantry-related side quests, or a Dwarf avoiding Carta quests because he's afraid he'll have to fight his cousin Vinny.

 

What side quests are left after exhausting all personality options?



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As if there was any doubt.
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If I remember correctly, you could finish both other Dragon Age games without doing a majority of the quests available.  I'd hazard a guess that you can complete most games while ignoring a majority of the quests.  

 

I'm glad that not everything we do relates to the breach or the main bad guy.  Not every bad thing in the world is going to relate back to one common source.  If it bothers you that the ram isn't tied to the breach (or is he?), then don't do that quest.  There are actually plenty of things to do in the game with either a clear benefit  or a tie to the main goal of the Inquisition.  

 

At least there are if you're willing to look even a little bit past the surface.

 

I do not contest that fact.

My point and curse as completionist player is that if you do all those quests and aren't in the mindset to RP the quests, they distract from the game's focus rather than add to it.

 

The question is: does that mean I am playing the game wrong, or is the game not giving enough incentive to get into the right mindset?

 

Both are viable answers, but only one can be directly influenced by game design.

 

I am egoistic enough to hope that as someone who dearly loves DA:O and DAII, I am still considered as part of BioWare's target audience for DAI and potentionally future games. So why does it appear that DAI is a game that's apparently imcompatible with me?



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Highlighted the important part.

I just saved the entire village. One man more is not making a significant difference. Only emphasized by the fact that you can easily finish the game without needing to complete most of the available quests.

It remains that helping one man is of no importance regarding the grand scheme. Not in the end and neither in the beginning, there's enough quests with tangible relevance to the story (Horse Master Dennet, the Hinterland watchtowers, the Rifts) that once completed grant you enough power to proceed with mainquests and/or opening other regions without bothering to complete other quests. He is trivial and unnecessary. In other words, his existence merely fills what would be empty or populated with a NPC you can't interact with. A quest for the sake of having a quest.

I agree with you, this game has too much stupid filler. Why spend a zillion damn hours exploring and learning your surroundings for fun and profit? Stupid filler. Why can't I have my minions do that? This game doesn't have enough damn minions.

I want a slam bam thank you ma'am git r done game. None of this stupid ooooh you're a poor servant let me fetch you something to stay warm. Who do I look like? I'm the goddamn inquisitor! Kill your own damn rams I'm busy trying to save the goddamn world here.

God this game sucks.

Add it's stupid sidequests to my list of stupid things about this game. #preordercanceled
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#119
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Solas was pretty interesting when we were doing it in the fade.

Dat Fade tongue, though

Hell yeah!

I'm out of likes or else I would like both of those posts.

Edit: I'd also like the post above mine but damn like limit.
Double Edit: Likes replenished and handed out appropriately.


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I agree with you, this game has too much stupid filler. Why spend a zillion damn hours exploring and learning your surroundings for fun and profit? Stupid filler. Why can't I have my minions do that? This game doesn't have enough damn minions.

I want a slam bam thank you ma'am git r done game. None of this stupid ooooh you're a poor servant let me fetch you something to stay warm. Who do I look like? I'm the goddamn inquisitor! Kill your own damn rams I'm busy trying to save the goddamn world here.

God this game sucks.

Add it's stupid sidequests to my list of stupid things about this game. #preordercanceled

 

Your petty parody attempt completely misses its mark.

 

I have issues with it exactly because it's NOT fun doing it. It's boring.

 

Oh my, how dare I have issues with boring stuff ... it's not like people play games to not be bored.


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Show me how I can assign an agent to get that ram back to his farmer and we can proceed that particular line of argument.
 
Or better yet, tell me why I should be bothering with a single farmer and his ram when there's a hole in the sky?


Alright. Since we're going into realism territory here:

Why does the Inquisition send out the ONLY person who can close rifts to do field work... and God forbid, fight dragons. That's easily the most retarded thing the organisation could do. It would be far better to just have lowly agents find the rifts and then send the Inquisitor there with a small army in case things go sour.

But no, instead of that, we're going into areas filled to brim with things that can kill you, and only get 3 body guards.

Brilliant.

But the reason's fairly simple: we're playing a game.
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My point and curse as completionist player is that if you do all those quests and aren't in the mindset to RP the quests, they distract from the game's focus rather than add to it.

 

 

Ah but the game isn't designed to cater to the sub-niche of completionists who don't RP (self-insert is an RP) when playing RPG games :)


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#123
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Alright. Since we're going into realism territory here

 

That's not a question about realism, it's a question about relevance.

 

And my point is that too many quests in DAI are not relevant, or say relevant enough when put into context with what the game is about. I can't see how small tasks, errands really, fit into the sky is falling down mentality that the game tries to exert on the player.

 

Being a game doesn't matter much. There's good games and there's bad games. And for the most part, my opinion is that DAI is weighted down by a lot of bad or suboptimal game design. That is what I'm arguing.

 

You are free to disagree. I'm not on a crusade to convince everyone that I'm right and anyone else is wrong.

 

 

 

Ah but the game isn't designed to cater to the sub-niche of completionists who don't RP (self-insert is an RP) when playing RPG games :)

 

Neither were DA:O or DAII, but those games still captivated me to replay both several times (completionist).

 

Obviously something changed. And not for better as far as I am concerned. Maybe I'm just that unlucky .01% sub-niche gamer for whom the game triggers all the bad reactions, but if so, it's my right to voice that opinion, which is what I'm doing, in hopes that future games are something I can enjoy.

It's not like I'm asking they change the game in a way that only I could ever enjoy, so I don't see how my opinion is harmful and hence the reason why I still argue instead of sulking in a corner and yelling "NEVER WILL I BUY A BIOWARE GAME AGAIN! to the heavens.



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I will laugh so hard if this "huge opportunity" turns out to be an MMO.


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Ah but the game isn't designed to cater to the sub-niche of completionists who don't RP (self-insert is an RP) when playing RPG games :)

what role playing is there in

 

"go get me ram meat?"

 

"go find these glyphs"

 

"go kill these bandits"