So I finally got a new laptop which has the green sticker, NVIDIA.
I am excited to finally play moderately new games at a decent framerate etc but alas, I'm hearing stories that my laptop is, well utter ****. I was fooled by the green sticker.
Its intel core i3-3217U 1.8GHz, 3MB L3 cache
NVIDIA Geforce 820M with 2GB dedicated ram
What games can I play? DMC? Far Cry 3? Assassins Creed Black Flag?
over 9000, seriously though, that CPU was outdated even when it came out
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Well im sure that was said at one point in human history
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Rob a bank with it.
At least you'll play a decent game of cops and robbers.
Well the laptop wasn't intended for gaming to begin, but it was nice to have the hopes of playing a decent game.
So in other words, I can't play anything then? Whats the point of an i3 core and NVIDIA being put together if I still can't play anything on it.
So I finally got a new laptop which has the green sticker, NVIDIA.
I am excited to finally play moderately new games at a decent framerate etc but alas, I'm hearing stories that my laptop is, well utter ****. I was fooled by the green sticker.
Its intel core i3-3217U 1.8GHz, 3MB L3 cache
NVIDIA Geforce 820M with 2GB dedicated ram
My Laptop has CPU core i3 2.4GHz 3MB L3 cache with 1GB Radeon graphics and I can play Civilization V and tons of other games on it, just not 2011 games and newer, unless indie or low graphic ones. Be grateful.
But I don't because playing even those old games on PC is SO MUCH better.
ugh, CPU is an "old" low-voltage i3 which has no boost, GPU is low-end crap and actually a "Fermi"-chip (but at least in 28nm) which was used in the 4XX and 5XX desktop cards.
i´m sure you will not have much fun playing FC3 or AC4 on this notebook, at least not in "higher" resolutions.
ugh, CPU is an "old" low-voltage i3 which has no boost, GPU is low-end crap and actually a "Fermi"-chip (but at least in 28nm) which was used in the 4XX and 5XX desktop cards.
i´m sure you will not have much fun playing FC3 or AC4 on this notebook.
BE REALISTIC. He should think about playing Mass Effect 1 and Unreal Tournament III at best. He can try DA:O too, but I don't think that CPU can make it.
So I finally got a new laptop which has the green sticker, NVIDIA.
I am excited to finally play moderately new games at a decent framerate etc but alas, I'm hearing stories that my laptop is, well utter ****. I was fooled by the green sticker.
Its intel core i3-3217U 1.8GHz, 3MB L3 cache
NVIDIA Geforce 820M with 2GB dedicated ram
What games can I play? DMC? Far Cry 3? Assassins Creed Black Flag?
If playing new games at decent framerates (50-60) was your goal, then this laptop missed the mark significantly.
Even assuming your laptop only has to fire a 720p resolution (1280x720/1280x768/1280x800 or 1366x768), your GPU is low-end even for a multi-media GPU. Only 96 CUDA cores (just to put this into perspective: gaming GPUs have around 1000+ CUDAs!), 16 TMUs and 8 ROPs and only DDR3 VRAM instead of GDDR5 ... you should be glad if this thing can even run the start up menu for AC: BF without crashing.
FPS for new games with this GPU would probably measured in single digits for any title that boasts with advanced graphics. And the CPU isn't exactly good either.
If palying games was your goal, return that laptop for a refund and look for something better, though if we're talking laptops, you are looking at a price range of 800+ to get one with a decent GPU.
Only 64 CUDA cores (just to put this into perspective: gaming GPUs have around 1000+ CUDAs!), 16 TMUs and 8 ROPs
this site says 96 shader units, 16 TMUs and 4 ROPs. doesnt make a big difference though.
this site says 96 shader units, 16 TMUs and 4 ROPs. doesnt make a big difference though.
Woops, got the wrong number. Still strange though as my source says 8 ROPs instead of 4 (and Nvidia's own webpage doesn't mention most of the hardware specs, but yeah, in the end it means little difference, this GPU is absolute low end, even as a multimedia GPU.
You can just about run Half Life 1 on those specs if you're lucky, if you're lucky.
So I finally got a new laptop which has the green sticker, NVIDIA.
I am excited to finally play moderately new games at a decent framerate etc but alas, I'm hearing stories that my laptop is, well utter ****. I was fooled by the green sticker.
Its intel core i3-3217U 1.8GHz, 3MB L3 cache
NVIDIA Geforce 820M with 2GB dedicated ram
What games can I play? DMC? Far Cry 3? Assassins Creed Black Flag?
CPU is very weak ultra low voltage energy saver dual core and GPU is very weak as well. Can you still return it?
Depending on your budget, I'd try to get something with 970M or at least 860M and ideally quad core i7 (CPU model# ending in HQ or MQ, avoid the ones ending in U). If your budget is really low, you might also consider refurb or used laptop with previous generation 765M or old Lenovo with 750M SLI for example.
Or just keep the laptop and build a proper gaming desktop PC.
I'm not quite as negative as others. I don't really see your CPU as much of a problem. 820M otoh is not so hot. Try it. But a gaming PC it isn't.
Best way to get a cheap but decent gaming PC, is to build a desktop. Some people get carried away and buy all the ridiculously hot stuff they rave about in hardware forums. That's why the general perception is that a gaming desktop is expensive. It isn't. You just have to be modest when you pick components. The most important thing is the video card. And regardless of numbering system and era, it's the second digit in the graphic chip's number that is the first clue to the performance it's intended for. So you see, your 820M - second digit = 2 - was never meant to blaze things anyway.
Nvidia 960 and AMD 280 seems to be good buys currently. As long as you get parts that fit together (correct sockets, size factors), and your PSU can power your graphics card, all the other parts can be quite cheap. Cheap case, cheap standard ram, straightforward non-sli/non-crossfire motherboard, without integrated graphics, cheap common harddrive (coming from a laptop, you obviously can do without an SSD), simple optical drive (you don't have to write discs). Do get at least a four-core CPU, but otherwise the CPU is almost indifferent. Don't even think about over-clocking. There's only one thing where *quality* is an issue and where you should avoid the crap, and that is the PSU.
A warning about cases! Do see to it that the pressure inside the case doesn't drop much at all (due to the various exhaust fans). If it does - it doesn't take much of a pressure drop - then the PSU will not get enough cooling. Big inlet openings is the key. You can even take off one of the covers in front of an empty large drive bay (that's what I usually do).
One thing laptops do not note is how well it can vent out heat. Because of this, you should expect around 20-50% less performance under some stress.
That laptop is a good thing to surf the internet, write stuff in Microsoft word, read PDF books, watch videos and play "older games".
Do what BMWcrazy said.
One thing laptops do not note is how well it can vent out heat. Because of this, you should expect around 20-50% less performance under some stress.
I compensate with a cooling tray. It helps immensely. I'M TOO POOR TO AFFORD A GAMING PC :'( I only have a laptop... two years old... and it's not a gaming laptop... DON'T JUDGE ME!
I compensate with a cooling tray. It helps immensely. I'M TOO POOR TO AFFORD A GAMING PC :'( I only have a laptop... two years old... and it's not a gaming laptop... DON'T JUDGE ME!
I suggest you have prepared IceBoxes in the fridge to use when you play AAA video games!
Also a big external fan pointed at your laptop may work!
A warning about cases! Do see to it that the pressure inside the case doesn't drop much at all (due to the various exhaust fans). If it does - it doesn't take much of a pressure drop - then the PSU will not get enough cooling. Big inlet openings is the key. You can even take off one of the covers in front of an empty large drive bay (that's what I usually do).
If you do that, make sure to regularily clean your PC to avoid dust settling in.
If you do that, make sure to regularily clean your PC to avoid dust settling in.
or you could not clean it for 4 years 
If you do that, make sure to regularily clean your PC to avoid dust settling in.
You'll get that anyway. Smaller inlets don't help against that. Only way to stop that is to put filters on the inlets. I did that on one PC a long time ago. But I don't bother anymore.
I suppose mileage may vary depending upon how dusty your indoor air is.
You'll get that anyway. Smaller inlets don't help against that. Only way to stop that is to put filters on the inlets. I did that on one PC a long time ago. But I don't bother anymore.
I suppose mileage may vary depending upon how dusty your indoor air is.
Pro-tip regarding dustyness:
Placing your PC case ten centimeters above the ground level reduces dust exposure by 80% (dust settles to the ground after all). If you can't/won't put your PC on the desk (as you should, it isn't called desktop for no reason 
), put it on a small pedestal instead of on the ground. Your PC will love you for it.
Pro-tip regarding dustyness:
Placing your PC case ten centimeters above the ground level reduces dust exposure by 80% (dust settles to the ground after all). If you can't/won't put your PC on the desk (as you should, it isn't called desktop for no reason
overpressure inside the case also helps.
and i would have no place left on my desk if i would put my PC on it 
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