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[Nen_Rx]

I hadn't played this game in several weeks. So I hop on last night and go to start a new play through. I create my character and get to where I am going to craft my first gear in Haven... and I quickly notice that the item dupe trick isn't working anymore.

 

First off... I am not calling it a "glitch" or "exploit" (even though it clearly is) because I figured it was something that Bioware wanted in the game. I've never played DAO or DA2 but from what I've read in forums... this same type of item dupe trick was in those games and was kept in those games through their entire life cycle.

 

So I guess I stupidly assumed that Bioware was doing us a solid and leaving this same trick in the game so that those of us not wanting to farm for hours upon hours on end could simply utilize this informal DA trick that has been in all the games.

 

Silly me!

 

Well, as soon as I saw that was patched, I cannot lie... I immediately thought to myself how much time I'd have to spend farming and said, "No thank you... this game isn't for me right now." Given, they already got my money so I guess the joke is on me. 

 

But I do have one question. Bioware... if you are out there... and if you happen to read this post... please can you answer why you patched it this time when people were quite happy about this trick and you kept it in previous games? I just want to know what your thought process was here.

[Captain Wiseass]

The simplest answer is that they did in fact want to put a stake in its heart with this game, muffed the execution of that with the original release, and finally accomplished it with the patch.

[actionhero112]

I get it. It's an exploit, but the crafting system is so screwy in this game that it should have been kept. I couldn't do it to begin with because I play on pc, but I can understand why it's appealing.If the alternative is farming crafting materials for hours on end, I'd rather the dupe method still be allowed.

 

Should have had some quest attached to unlocking crafting materials. Save a village from ravenous beasts, get access to their pelts. Save a farmer's family from a burning building, he tells you of his heritage knitting techniques. Once you do the quest essentially, you get unlimited crafting supplies for that type. The quests could be easier or harder depending on what mat they unlocked and at what point in the game you were. 

 

I mean really, a single player game with a mat farming mechanic? What? 

[Dreamer]

I don't know why they fixed the glitch (given that similar issues were ignored in both of the previous games), but I have a nagging suspicion that we'll be seeing monetized materials packs in future DLC.

[Fiery Phoenix]

They patched it because it was an exploit that was not meant to be there. Simple as that.

 

I'm personally more disappointed about the influence rank exploit. That made the game so much less tedious before it was patched.

[Bughunter999]

I suspect that they determined it was contributing to the breaking of other things, either by encouraging users to take unforeseen paths of use or perhaps the patching of this hole was related to another needed fix.

 

I highly doubt they did it to screw with anyone.  Its work and money to put in fixes and developers don't do it just for fun--usually.  heh.

[Nen_Rx]

They patched it because it was an exploit that was not meant to be there. Simple as that.

 

I'm personally more disappointed about the influence rank exploit. That made the game so much less tedious before it was patched.

I guess I assumed since it was left in the other games through their entire life cycle and never patched... and then showed up again in the third installment... that is was meant to be in the game.

 

But clearly not.

[TheOgre]

They patched it because it was an exploit that was not meant to be there. Simple as that.

 

I'm personally more disappointed about the influence rank exploit. That made the game so much less tedious before it was patched.

 

Why not do that with DA2 though? They had this dupe.. Have this dupe in DA2, and they had updates too..

 

It's my theory they did it to fix an error, but only so they can have an additional line in their bugs "fixed' category for DAI since DAI is so riddled with bugs.

[Nen_Rx]

Why not do that with DA2 though? They had this dupe.. Have this dupe in DA2, and they had updates too..

 

It's my theory they did it to fix an error, but only so they can have an additional line in their bugs "fixed' category for DAI since DAI is so riddled with bugs.

Exactly my thought!

[Ragnar Q]

I bought this game found out about dupe managed to get like 1000 iron to see if was real that was cool. Next day its not working i read all these posts people have replayed the game need loads of crafting n time etc and i cbfa give me my money back please not even joking.

[Nen_Rx]

Another point that seemed to make sense as to why the item dupe seemed to fit is that there are a limited number of dragons to kill in this game. I never gave it much thought on the first play through because after killing a couple dragons... I could dupe the mats and have enough crafting mats to build out top end armor and weapons for my entire party.

 

I have not verified this yet... but I find it highly doubtful that there is enough mats dropping from the limited number of dragons to fully spec your entire team in dragon based weapons and armor.

 

That is a bit of a let down as well IMHO.

[TheOgre]

I bought this game found out about dupe managed to get like 1000 iron to see if was real that was cool. Next day its not working i read all these posts people have replayed the game need loads of crafting n time etc and i cbfa give me my money back please not even joking.

 

Welcome to the forums!

 

Alternative, but a hassle, use CE to set how many items you want / schematics, it fixes a lot of the RNGesus bull crap EA/Bioware shoved down our throats with the tier 3 schematics.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Because, it was an exploit, the game was not working as intended so, it got fixed. Duping mates, or anything for that matter should be left to modders and, it can be done with third party mods. (Yes PC only but, at least we get something for playing on a PC over a console.)

[Jeffry]

basically the same thread as this one - http://forum.bioware...le-player-mode/

 

And yes, instead of fixing the glitch that made the game bereable, they should have fixed the core issue - why the game is not bereable for many people - because of stupid mindles mmo grind that should have no place in a SP game. But they took the easy and lame way, because post-release care is not really a huge concern among AAA studios these days.

[Nen_Rx]

Because, it was an exploit, the game was not working as intended so, it got fixed. Duping mates, or anything for that matter should be left to modders and, it can be done with third party mods. (Yes PC only but, at least we get something for playing on a PC over a console.)

Then why has this same "exploit" existed in other DA games and never ever got patched through the entire life cycle? That is what no one seems to be able to answer.

 

If this same exploit has existed in the other DA games as many people claim... those games went through multiple patches with the devs knowing they were in there but they ignored them and then the same exact exploit makes it into the the third installment?

 

I cannot subscribe to the theory that it is coincidence that this exploit kept making it in to these DA games.

 

So then why? Why patch it now after all these years of letting it be?

[TheOgre]

Because, it was an exploit, the game was not working as intended so, it got fixed. Duping mates, or anything for that matter should be left to modders and, it can be done with third party mods. (Yes PC only but, at least we get something for playing on a PC over a console.)

 

It is an exploit, and it was not intended, yet it was in every DA aside from this one. 

 

Given EA"s policies, someone brought up a good point about how materials could be a buy in option down the road (for DLC). 

 

Already posted why I thought it was even addressed given it only effected you in single player mode. Still waiting for them to fix tempests ability to kill dragons in less than 3 seconds

[Jeffry]

I believe it was fixed so there would be larger patch notes and it would seem like BW actually does something. I think there are not many people left doing the patches and testing them (since the majority of the DA team was transfered to other projects). It almost feels like they left behind one guy during the holiday break and he had to take care of it, so he chose the most easy fixes.

 

But I am honestly surprised there are no microtransactions for crafting mats etc. When for example AC:U had them in the single player campaign. They would fit into this rng grind pretty well

[Barachim]

Apparently you're not allowed to have a fun and relaxing time on subsequent playthroughs. That's the only reason I can think of.

[TheOgre]

Apparently you're not allowed to have a fun and relaxing time on subsequent playthroughs. That's the only reason I can think of.

 

I can think of more but this too

[KBomb]

I don't know why the fixed the glitch (given that similar issues were ignore in both of the previous games), but I have a nagging suspicion that we'll be seeing monetized materials packs in future DLC.

I hope that isn't the case. Talk about dirty pool.

[Sartoz]

Why fix the dupe exploit?

 

I'm of the opinion that it interfered with the MP micro transaction revenue stream. It's a lucrative cash cow when suckers buy stuff in MP.

[TheOgre]

Why fix the dupe exploit?

 

I'm of the opinion that it interfered with the MP micro transaction revenue stream. It's a lucrative cash cow when suckers buy stuff in MP.

 

But you can't sell items on MP, you can only salvage?

[Jeffry]

It did not interfere with MP in any way, you can't sell anything there. You can only salvage your items for some crafting mats.

[HuldraDancer]

Downloading the patch for it now and feel dirty doing so course I really want to start a new game with my world saves so not like I have much of a choice in the matter, though I do fully plan to uninstall it even if that means having to uninstall all the updates and re installing the game. The dupe item trick was the only one I really used cause like others have said its mind numbingly tedious. Once I get the characters I want up though I'm removing this update and playing offline. Also still bitter as hell that they fixed a non problem like this but the banter bug is still a huge problem.

[TheOgre]

So we have EA DLC greed, or lazy quick fix to add to bug fixes list, or that one crazy zealot of a programmer who shares the opinion of maybe 10% of the gaming population that "Cheating is evil"...

 

Any more theories?