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[Qun00]

I'm just curious to know how most players worked through that, given that your character is surrounded by humans and working with them.

Exactly how intense was his/her hatred of humans? At what pace did s/he start trusting or even warming up to the Inquisition's advisors?

And one special question. To those who've romanced Cullen... how did it begin roleplay wise? I'm sure her ancestors should be rolling in their graves, ha ha.

[jlb524]

My Lavellan doesn't hate humans but was distrustful of everyone in the Inquisition at first (human or no).

 

Lavellan Clan is supposed to be more open towards interacting with humans anyway.  I suppose mine often traded with them and never had issues.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Mine is happy to be away from all the Dalish nonsense and wishes she had taken off sooner.

[DementedSheep]

Well the clan you are from is suppose to trade with humans and I figured if the keeper was going to send anyone away from the clan to spy on a human thing she would try to send someone who has had some interactions with humans before and is less inclined to start a fight so...mild. Sometimes makes dumb assumptions and isn't comfortable with the chantry but nothing major. 

 

And I already played a very distrustful and somewhat racist Dalish in DA:O 

[Steelcan]

I'm not even gonna bother with this one, Dalish threads lost their luster when Lob blocked me ;_;

[p3891]

My Lavallan started as a proud Dalish while still being moderately comfortable around humans, but as the story went on she began to feel more at ease with humans coming to see many of them as her closest friends and by the end I would say she feels less pride about her Dalish heritage as she allowed Solas to remove her facial markings

[Jagged Orchid]

I spent a lot of time trying to justify my Lavellan's  personality. Not only is she Dalish, but she is also going to successfully romance Sera. The best I could come up with is that she maybe met a human or something in her youth/early teens. This encounter has shaped her understanding and acceptance of others. It's not easy for her to trust, but she is more open than your average elf. She learned that maybe the Dalish were not right about everyone,  that maybe other gods had some importance after all. It's been a slow process, but it is very doable for her.

[Tarlonniel]

I'm with the other posters who've said that Clan Lavellan is generally very tolerant of humans, so it seems natural that my PC would share that attitude, especially since she's the one chosen to go play spy. She's proudly Dalish and remains so, but she's tolerant of others' beliefs (unless they try to force those beliefs on her). The hardest moments for her are when she has to be all buddy-buddy with and very diplomatic towards people who treat elves quite badly, for instance during the ball. And her whole clan getting wiped out definitely causes some... issues... but by then she likes and trusts those around her enough to eventually move on.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

My Lavellan was way too friendly to be hateful. She was proud of her heritage, but was more than willing to acknowledge flaws and be open to reason, provided they're willing to do the same. Plus, Lavellan Clan was shown to be a very easy-going bunch anyway. I figure she was raised to keep an open mind. 

 

Fair contrast to my Warden, who was bitter and unwilling to trust pretty much any human until she let her guard down and opened up. Whereas my Lavellan evidently had some dealings with humans in the past, I don't think my Mahariel had any at all until her and Tamlen ran into those humans in the forest, so she basically just had the image she built up in her head, while Lavellan was a bit more well-versed and open from the get-go.

[Nefla]

I didn't play my Dalish elves in DA:O as human haters, more like sheltered characters curious about the wider world. My city elves on the other hand...

 

DA:I didn't give us the choice at all so *shrug*

[Qun00]

Plus, Lavellan Clan was shown to be a very easy-going bunch anyway. I figure she was raised to keep an open mind.

Do elaborate.

[In Exile]

Mine wasn't a racist. Tevinter? He blamed until the Temple of Mythal. Orlais? Loathed it with a passion. But humanity? 

[kathic]

My Lavellan was secretly Andrastian so she was glad to escape her clan. No more needed to hide her faith.

[Cypher0020]

Whelp my new lavellan gal is romancing Blackwall sooooo.......

 

I put it to this clan being more accepting/working with humans

[Roamingmachine]

My elves have all been the same in their approach to humans: None are to be really trusted untill proven otherwise on a case-by-case basis. They were not actively hostile, just guarded and mindful of the fact that, individual exceptions aside, andrastian chantry and its followers ARE hostile towards the Dalish.

[Raiil]

My elf spent most of her time pre game desperately searching for a cause or goal. The inquisition gave her one.

The need to have a purpose overrode any lessons on hating other races or dalish pride; she saw it as archaic. While she's not Andrastian, she sees the potential in making the inquisition a force for good.

Plus now she's bumping uglies with a Templar and has no time for hate, lol.

[Addai]

The Lavellan clan is said to have trade relationships with human settlements, and in some outcomes of the war table quests, they defend the humans of Wycome against red lyrium corruption. I figure they wouldn't send a representative to the Conclave who was either inexperienced with the outside world or hostile. So I play my Lavellan as being fairly diplomatic, though waking up in a prison surrounded by templars confirms her worst childhood fears. It's obvious that the Breach threatens everyone, though, so that gives her some time to see that Cassandra and the others are reasonable sorts and she has a responsibility to do something.

 

Still, I figure the instinct to flee was probably pretty strong. I lol'ed at Varric's advice that she do just that. After Haven, it seems pretty hopeless, but then Solas steps in and convinces her to embrace the humans' faith in her for the sake of the elves. I just love that sequence. I have her tell Mother Giselle that no god helped her in Haven, and right after that... "Scout to the north, be their guide" takes on different meaning for a Dalish PC. You see her become the Keeper she was meant to be, only in a much larger sense than she anticipated. Reclaiming Skyhold as an elven Inquisitor is also pretty awesome.

[Dseaver]

All elves are racists.

[Nimlowyn]

To the OP, I've been rerolling my first Dalish elf in the series ever, trying to figure this out. In the Character Summary right before you enter Character Creator, it says, "The clan wandered the Northern Free Marches and had little need to interact with humans..." So initially I was playing her as very distrustful, and outright unruly in the circumstances (she was scared). But, it didn't feel right. Especially given, if she was sent by the Keeper as a spy into something like the Conclave, the thick of human civilization, there must be a reason. And my character is First, so it seemed like she'd be educated on Human customs and whatnot, since I think of Merrill and equate a First with book learnin'. 

 

Speaking of which I'm also unsure to what extent she could read and write in the Common Tongue. I mean she speaks it obviously, as all clans we've seen, but to what extent do they need to read and write in it? I suppose it varies by clan and by clan member, but for a clan that "had little need to interact with humans"? As of now, I'm thinking as First, she's learned human customs, and to read and write in the Common tongue, in preparation to be leader of her clan. You need to be able to diplomatically interact with the dominant culture. I figure if you fail to do so you do at your own peril. I think then, given her education and position, my Lavellan will be uneasy and distrustful, with no love for the Chantry, but not outright unruly and hateful. I can't stomach playing a racist character anyway.

 

Edited because holy grammar Batman.

[Wulfram]

I decided my character was probably sent to the conclave because they got along well with humans.

The game doesn't allow you to really play an outsider, so I don't think it's worth trying to play someone who is really uncomfortable with humans.

[Sah291]

Well I imagine Clan Lavellan having had a little more contact with humans than usual, maybe actively trading with some humans they encountered, and then sending one of their own to the conclave to observe. So I role played mine as being a bit more open minded towards humans generally...She was the clan's first, so she had learned to take a more careful and diplomatic approach when dealing with outsiders. But still wary of the chantry and not trusting the inquisition as first, having just been taken prisoner, and for fear that they were going to start a holy war which could blowback on her people...especially after finding out the orb was elven.

Despite being named herald, she knew she was in a dangerous position that could turn hostile if not handled delicately. Like Solas warns, humans have a habit of martyring their prophets. She plays along, becoming their leader, but slowly over time starts to befriend her human companions for real as she learns more about them, and about their religion.

I didn't romance Cullen but I like to think he and my Lavellan became friends. Being a mage, she didn't trust templars, but having grown up Dalish away from Templars, I don't think she would have quite the same level of angst or baggage a circle mage might...so she was able to come to accept him...I think she was more curious than afraid of him.

I agree I don't think it fits the story well to play an elf that is too isolated, hostile or unaware of human customs. The elf inquisitor knows at least some basics, enough to function as a leader.

[pawswithclaws]

My Lavellan was secretly Andrastian so she was glad to escape her clan. No more needed to hide her faith.

My latest elfie was openly Andrastian, so I assume the clan was as relieved to see her go as she was to leave.

[zambingo]

Just because Dalish Quizzy's clan had little need to interact with humans does not preclude them from having contact nor does it imply a particular state of mind regarding race.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Centuries of slavery and the destruction of your homeland tends to make a people a little anxious towards the race who committed those atrocities. 

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I was disappointed my Dalish Elf couldn't give a middle finger to every human you meet. DAO elf was fun because of the way you got to treat a lot of the "shems". Especially in Ostagar.