They become part of the Inquisition which strengthens it and you directly control them so they can't go be douchebags unless you order them to. Cass evens says conscripting the Templars means they will unlikely be a threat to mages in the future.
So then who will watch the mages?
So then who will watch the mages?
The mages are brainwashed and wind up killed if you side with the Templars. Afterwards, who you get as Divine determines what happens to the Templars. Leliana permanently disbands them while Cass reforms them to be more like good templars while Vivienne leashes them as her personal army.
The mages are brainwashed and wind up killed if you side with the Templars
How does this make sense? This is a world wide conflict. How could the mage rebellion come to an end with the death of the mages in Redcliffe? Or is it that you are only disbanding the templar order in Ferelden?
How does this make sense? This is a world wide conflict. How could the mage rebellion come to an end with the death of the mages in Redcliffe? Or is it that you are only disbanding the templar order in Ferelden?
The mage rebellion in Redcliffe consists of every rebel mage in Thedas who hasn't left the rebellion and are brainwashed into becoming Venatori and the Venatori are eventually killed off as time goes on meaning the rebel mages are killed. They are apparently the majority of mages so the majority of Thedas' mages are dead if you side with the Templars. If you conscript the Templars, you are disbanding the entire Templar Order. After all, how could Corypheus have an army of Red Templars if he only corrupted the Templars in Ferelden.
The rebel mages in Redcliff are the bulk of the rebellion, withouth them, the rebels lose their forces.How does this make sense? This is a world wide conflict. How could the mage rebellion come to an end with the death of the mages in Redcliffe? Or is it that you are only disbanding the templar order in Ferelden?
If Lelliana is the Divine, no one.So then who will watch the mages?
There is no proof they were brainwashed.
The rebel mages in Redcliff are the bulk of the rebellion, withouth them, the rebels lose their forces.
You disband the entire Order, almost all templars joins the Inquisition, with the exception for the ones who didnt left the Chantry and the Hanshall templars who you can recruit via war table.
If Lelliana is the Divine, no one.
If Cassandra or Vivienne is Divine, they reform the Templar Order.
But what's the point of them joining the Inquisition if the Inquisition takes a back seat as soon a new Divine is chosen? It's not like the Inquisition goes to war against other nations and needs templars for soldiers.
But what's the point of them joining the Inquisition if the Inquisition takes a back seat as soon a new Divine is chosen? It's not like the Inquisition goes to war against other nations and needs templars for soldiers.
The point of disbanding them at Therinfal is that the command structur is at that point severely gutted as most of the officer corps is dead, so absorbing them is seemingly done to get them back up to speed by putting them in a command structure that is more operational.
But what's the point of them joining the Inquisition if the Inquisition takes a back seat as soon a new Divine is chosen? It's not like the Inquisition goes to war against other nations and needs templars for soldiers.
Dorian never said that, the ritual in Redcliff can be anything, nothing is saying about brainwash and the guide is non canon.There is no proof they were brainwashed..
Except for you know, Dorian saying that the Venatori pretty much says the Venatori brainwashed the mages, the fact that the Venatori performed a ritual on the rebels in the Investigate Redcliffe castle mission, and the guide OUTRIGHT SAYING THE MAGES ARE BRAINWASHED, but I guess directly disproving that idiotic notion must mean it's wrong despite being mentioned multiple times in the guide /s Really, only someone making up excuses to hate mages would use that. There a evidence to support the mages being brainwashed and NONE to support them not being brainwashed.
There is no proof they were brainwashed.
The rebel mages in Redcliff are the bulk of the rebellion, withouth them, the rebels lose their forces.
You disband the entire Order, almost all templars joins the Inquisition, with the exception for the ones who didnt left the Chantry and the Hanshall templars who you can recruit via war table.
If Lelliana is the Divine, no one.
If Cassandra or Vivienne is Divine, they reform the Templar Order.
Not necessarily. I just beat the game conscripting the templars and Vivienne became Divine. She tried reforming the templars, but the majority of them refused to rejoin the chantry and stayed in the Inquisition.
If you conscripted them only a few leave, but she reform the Order anyway.Not necessarily. I just beat the game conscripting the templars and Vivienne became Divine. She tried reforming the templars, but the majority of them refused to rejoin the chantry and stayed in the Inquisition.
did we ever get firm proof of brainwashing, or is that still just him blowing out air
did we ever get firm proof of brainwashing, or is that still just him blowing out air
Not necessarily. I just beat the game conscripting the templars and Vivienne became Divine. She tried reforming the templars, but the majority of them refused to rejoin the chantry and stayed in the Inquisition.
Those that refuse to join are the knights saved at Therinfal I presume. You can say that the reformed templar order Vivienne creates is the new generation of templars and it is just the templars from the previous version of the order that declines to join it, prefering to stay with the inquisition as the case is here.
It does not mean that the reform of the templars failed, just that there is a lack of continuity between the old and new order in terms of actual members.
You already know the answer.
Templars. Calpernia is cooler than Samson, and I like the Envy Daemon segment at Therinfall much more than the Time Travel plot.
did we ever get firm proof of brainwashing, or is that still just him blowing out air
I don't know why anyone even bothers with him at this point. Even putting aside the fact that he uses thirdhand information as though it were proof and has no actual proof to back up anything he says, he's just rude. I have yet to see him post anything even remotely civil or polite.
But we'll keep getting him making up facts, referencing future developer statements that only exist in his head, unverifiable appeals to these supposed 'outside BSN' masses, or trying to pass off the third-party guide as some inviolate source of truth. I guess, if the guide is going to be used that way, the Inquisition can only get to level 11, too, just as one example.
Apparently direct confirmation that the mages are brainwashed is conveniently ignored as it directly deconfirms your assumptions. Bet if the guide said the mages willingly helped Corypheus, you totally would have mentioned it but since it proves your blief wrong, it isn't canon. When the devs inevitably confirm the brainwashing, all the boasts about the guide being non-canon will be proven to be false and just be an excuse to hate mages. Really Bsn is the only place where that motion exists. Also, where is your proof tha he mages aren't brainwashed. You constantly say his but never back up your words with an evidence. Show some proof or you look more and more like you just ignore anything that contradicts your unproven position.
Umm, I'm generally a mage supporter but in my recent playthrough where I conscripted the templars I didn't see any codexes or hear any dialogue that the mages are brainwashed.
Could you give me the source?
Umm, I'm generally a mage supporter but in my recent playthrough where I conscripted the templars I didn't see any codexes or hear any dialogue that the mages are brainwashed.
Could you give me the source?
I don't think there's any hard evidence for the theory.
But I happen to subscribe to it. What evidence there is to be found is in how Fiona can't remember speaking to the Inquisitor in Val Royeaux (unless there's some confirmed time magic thing happening there that I didn't catch?), and how strangely many of the Mages act when you reach Redcliffe. Alexius would also probably be very willing to resort to those measures.
I think that Fiona and some of the other Mages with authority were under some blood magic influence.
I've never seen any codex entries confirming it, however, so it does seem to be just a theory.
Edit: Happy Birthday, btw. If that's still an up to date status. 
That or Fiona has a bad case of dementia 
That or Fiona has a bad case of dementia
This one seems legit.
And I'm not joking. She really seems to have a bad case of dementia.
I believe that Fiona was temporarily mind-controlled when you speak with Alexius in Redcliffe. However, there is absolutely no indication that the mages are brainwashed. That's 100% pure invention, and I blame the people who update the DA wiki. If you think it's odd they fight you later if you ally with the templars, consider that the Inquisition looks like a military arm of the Chantry to start with *and* it has allied with the templars. It makes complete sense for Fiona's people to fight you, even without Corypheus' influence.
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