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Did Bioware get lucky with DA:I?


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This is not a hate thread, the game is a solid 7/10 for me but I do think that Bioware got extremely lucky with DA:I

it basically won all the major GOTY awards and it had a very successful launch

 

 

The thing is though last year really sucked for gaming, Unity and Watch Dogs were huge disappointments and many AAA titles were delayed
(The Witcher 3 and Batman Arkham Knight which were supposed to come out this year to name two)

 

 

it was a very bad year and as a result DA:I was my GOTY too

So did Bioware get lucky releasing DA:I in such a bad year? Or would the reaction be the same regardless?

Two other Bioware titles which were received very well (DA:O and ME2) didn't get nearly as much awards since they were released with other very popular games

 

 

As much as I like the game in my opinion it wasn't GOTY material there were way too many flaws for that (huge lifeless areas, generic fetch quests, short story etc.)


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It's not certain whether DAI would of won GOTY award had their been more hot AAA games released around the same time as DAI was. 

 

Having said that...I do believe Bioware deserved GOTY as i truly love the game.  


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When you finally get there, you'll find that acceptance is the best of all the stages of grief.

 

Sure beats bargaining.


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This is not a hate thread, the game is a solid 7/10 for me but I do think that Bioware got extremely lucky with DA:I

it basically won all the major GOTY awards and it had a very successful launch

 

 

The thing is though last year really sucked for gaming, Unity and Watch Dogs were huge disappointments and many AAA titles were delayed
(The Witcher 3 and Batman Arkham Knight which were supposed to come out this year to name two)

 

 

it was a very bad year and as a result DA:I was my GOTY too

So did Bioware get lucky releasing DA:I in such a bad year? Or would the reaction be the same regardless?

Two other Bioware titles which were received very well (DA:O and ME2) didn't get nearly as much awards since they were released with other very popular games

 

 

As much as I like the game in my opinion it wasn't GOTY material there were way too many flaws for that (huge lifeless areas, generic fetch quests, short story etc.)

 

There is no luck about it, It was obviously a tactical decision. No competition, close to christmas, and ect.



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When you finally get there, you'll find that acceptance is the best of all the stages of grief.

 

Sure beats bargaining.

huh?


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I think it would still be a contender for GOTY, but whether it would win is up in the air. After all, we have no idea of the actual quality of the games coming out this year.

I certainly think it deserved the 2014 GOTY. In my opinion, the only other real contender was Shadow of Mordor, and while it had good parts, it didn't combine them well.
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I'm personally of the humble opinion that the selection of games last year, combined with the near-complete lack of AAA RPG's, has more to do with DA:I winning all those GOTY awards than the actual game itself.

 

So to answer your question, I would say yes, it was at least partially a matter of luck. Had The Witcher 3, for instance, been released last fall as was originally intended, things wouldn't have played out the same way.


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DAI didn't really have any competition for GOTY, simply because the industry churned out almost exclusively garbage in 2014.
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Until this game hit, I had said that for me, Silent Hills demo aka P.T. was my 'goty' due to how badass it is....but since then, and with the release of this one, its DA:I. While I loved Shadows of Mordor, I don't think a nemesis system alone qualifies for GOTY status, even though it was pretty awesome. 



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DAI didn't really have any competition for GOTY, simply because the industry churned out almost exclusively garbage in 2014.

There were a few decent titles. Shadow of Mordor in particular was a pretty close contender.

 

It's the lack of AAA RPG's last year that I think is the primary culprit. DA:I was basically the only such title.



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huh?

 

Here you go.

 

The 5 stages of grief of a DA:I hater:

  1. Denail: I am afraid there will be no more Dragon Age games because Inquisition was such a failure.  It got 0.2/10 on metacritic and no one bought it.
  2. Anger: Damn you Bioware! You lied to me! The things I saw from pre-alpha footage shot by a non-Bioware employee on their cellphone didn't end up in the final game a year later.  You are history's greatest monster !!11!!one!!!
  3. Bargaining: Ok maybe Inquisition was a financial and critical success.  But it only won eleventy billion "Game of the Year" awards because there was no competition.  If you had released a reproduction of my rose-colored recollection of Dragon Age: Origins, it would no doubt have deserved all the GOTY awards it would have won.
  4. Depression: [gentle wheeping as Taylor Swift songs play in the background]
  5. Acceptance: I have come to realize that, despite the fact that Dragon Age: Inquisition was not designed specifically to apeal to my sensibilities, it is nevertheless a good game that deserves the financial and critical success it has achieved.

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Here you go.

 

The 5 stages of grief of a DA:I hater:

  1. Denail: I am afraid there will be no more Dragon Age games because Inquisition was such a failure.  It got 0.2/10 on metacritic and no one bought it.
  2. Anger: Damn you Bioware! You lied to me! The things I saw from pre-alpha footage shot by a non-Bioware employee on their cellphone didn't end up in the final game a year later.  You are history's greatest monster !!11!!one!!!
  3. Bargaining: Ok maybe Inquisition was a financial and critical success.  But it only won eleventy billion "Game of the Year" awards because there was no competition.  If you had released a reproduction of my rose-colored recollection of Dragon Age: Origins, it would no doubt have deserved all the GOTY awards it would have won.
  4. Depression: [gentle wheeping as Taylor Swift songs play in the background]
  5. Acceptance: I have come to realize that, despite the fact that Dragon Age: Inquisition was not designed specifically to apeal to my sensibilities, it is nevertheless a good game that deserves the financial and critical success it has achieved.

 

can't you read? I don't hate DA:I (a solid 7/10) and never did it has a short but good story and awesome companions

 

But it also has some glaring flaws (see fetch quests)

sry if not everyone is a fanboy who thinks its the best game ever (like you apparenlty with this silly post)


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can't you read? I don't hate DA:I (a solid 7/10) and never did it has a short but good story and awesome companions

But it also has some glaring flaws (see fetch quests)
sry if not everyone is a fanboy who thinks its the best game ever (like you apparenlty with this silly post)

You made a thread in an attempt to call DAIs recognition a matter of luck and timing.

Those two.... intangible characteristics are irrelevant to DAIs quality itself.

It's like saying an A student shouldn't receive an award because all the other kids got C's and F's.

So what's the point? It's just another subtle way to create a topic to mock DAI when the topic of discussion is other games that failed to be good.

Good grief. Do what you want just don't claim validation because you like game. This topic is pointless.
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can't you read? I don't hate DA:I (a solid 7/10) and never did it has a short but good story and awesome companions

 

But it also has some glaring flaws (see fetch quests)

sry if not everyone is a fanboy who thinks its the best game ever (like you apparenlty with this silly post)

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You made a thread in an attempt to call DAIs recognition a matter of luck and timing.

Those two.... intangible characteristics are irrelevant to DAIs quality itself.

It's like saying an A student shouldn't receive an award because all the other kids got C's and F's.

So what's the point? It's just another subtle way to create a topic to mock DAI when the topic of discussion is other games that failed to be good.

Good grief. Do what you want just don't claim validation because you like game. This topic is pointless.

I was just speculating

and no they aren't irrelevant since there were almost only shitty games last year (except maybe Shadow of Mordor) DA:I had it very easy

Many AAA titles were delayed and some got really bad reception (see Unity)


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I'm personally of the humble opinion that the selection of games last year, combined with the near-complete lack of AAA RPG's, has more to do with DA:I winning all those GOTY awards than the actual game itself.

 

So to answer your question, I would say yes, it was at least partially a matter of luck. Had The Witcher 3, for instance, been released last fall as was originally intended, things wouldn't have played out the same way.

Unless of course in releasing the Witcher 3 before it was ready, the game turned out to not be as visually impressive on PC as promised and was then chore to play playthrough due to being released far too soon. I mean they pushed the game from last year to May....how bad must things have been?

 

Many AAA titles were delayed and some got really bad reception (see Unity)

 

So because Bioware's work wasn't as poor as Ubisoft's/Bungie, and the other games you mention weren't  ready to be sold to the public, we should ignore their accomplishments? Like being their best launch yet?


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Get a load of all these salty people.


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Get a load of all these salty people.

who are you talking about? the defensive fanboys or me?



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who are you talking about? the defensive fanboys or me?

So people who disagree with you are 'fanboys'....noted.


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So people who disagree with you are 'fanboys'....noted.

I'm not even talking about you but more about those who say that I'm a DA:I hater just because I criticize it

 



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A lot of things in this life result from luck and timing, I don't see why this has to take away from DAI. Nor can we really know any of this stuff anyway. Just let it have its awards. I realize this isn't a hate thread, but you did leave it open for feedback, and my feedback, kindly, is that this isn't worth speculating about.


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The expectations regarding The Witcher 3 and Pillars of Eternity seem to be so high to some DAI detractors that I wonder how marvellous that games shall be in order to please everyone.


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The expectations regarding The Witcher 3 and Pillars of Eternity seem to be so high to some DAI detractors that I wonder how marvellous that games shall be in order to please everyone.

Pillars of Eternity has an easier job, since it has to please just the people who supported the kickstarter and a few others on the fence about it. That game's not really looking to be anything other than a nostalgia fest.

 

The Witcher 3, just has to keep all the promises they made, and be better than Assassins Creed Unity (Overall). Anything less and that love will likely turn to rage in short order.


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It's not certain whether DAI would of one GOTY award had their been more hot AAA games released around the same time as DAI was. 

 

Having said that...I do believe Bioware deserved GOTY as i truly love the game.  

Not saying you said this or anything...

 

 But I remember a lot of moaning and hand wrining and sweat breaking out on foreheads over the amount of tripple A compeition DA had to face...and how EA were idiots for releasing the game when they did.  How times change. :P


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DAI is as bad as Unity though. Bioware is just better masking it than Ubisoft and better running from their responsibilities.


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