I like the Witcher games, and definitely hope that the third will be a great and successful game.
but the fact that it's marketing already means you shouldn't completely trust it =P
Huh? When should CDPR start marketing then? All devs market their games before they're released, it's kind of the whole point of sales. Pre-orders wouldn't even be a thing otherwise.
Huh? When should CDPR start marketing then? All devs market their games before they're released, it's kind of the whole point of sales. Pre-orders wouldn't even be a thing otherwise.
I'm not saying don't market the game.
I'm saying we shouldn't completely trust everything the marketing says, because it's marketing and the entire point of it is trying to make your game look as awesome as possible.
Huh? When should CDPR start marketing then? All devs market their games before they're released, it's kind of the whole point of sales. Pre-orders wouldn't even be a thing otherwise.
Pretty sure Cyo meant that you shouldn't believe it due to the fact that it's marketing.
Everything I've seen so far makes remind me of an Assassin's Creed game, at least with regard to visuals. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I will say that the Witcher 2 had killer art design.
I think DAI is pretty good game. I think they deserve the awards they get.
Other releases that I personally experienced in 2014 were alright, some were good. Mordor was alright. It got tedious for me, and I didn't really get into it, but I could see where some folks would really like it. ACU, I missed the tech issues for the most part--it, too, was alright. It had some moments.
Actually, I really liked Sunset OverDrive. That was a great game. Refreshing gameplay that was very smooth and responsive. Great visuals and fun/cool NPC's/Factions. I enjoyed that one. But I can't recall seeing it turn up as a contender for anything.
game's a 9/10 for me, i completely enjoyed every minute of it. Do I like fetch quests? Hell no, but I DO love exploring and finding easter eggs and codex entries and the game is chock full of both.
Also the music is some of the best I've heard. So many memorable tracks, even the very first boss you fight has a badass boss theme.
I said "looks like it's going to." Something doesn't have to be released around the same time to be compared.
No, but it's a ludicrous comparison to make when one of them isn't even out yet, therefore you have no clue how good it will be. Everything you know about it is from marketing.
And I say this as someone who has already bought TW3.
No, but it's a ludicrous comparison to make when one of them isn't even out yet, therefore you have no clue how good it will be. Everything you know about it is from marketing.
And I say this as someone who has already bought TW3.
Reading comprehension is certainly lacking on this site. I wasn't making a comparison. Someone said that once CDPR start working on new titles after they are finished with TW3, they will be competition for Bioware. I said they already are. I used TW3 as an example but any Witcher game would have done, it's certainly the most similar game series to DA out there atm. They are aiming for the same market. I just personally think TW3 will be a superior game than Inquisition. Partly due to what I have seen in the marketing (gameplay videos mostly) and partly because of the quality of CDPR's former titles. It's not ludicrous at all to say " I think this game looks better than this game." It's actually ludicrous to suggest that it is.
It simple, this game made by gay people for gay people, who like to play with controller. DAI has its moments but in general falls flat. Game of the year? sure, crappy 2014 year, one shall add.
It simple, this game made by gay people for gay people, who like to play with controller. DAI has its moments but in general falls flat. Game of the year? sure, crappy 2014 year, one shall add.
Ye gods. What is wrong with the straight males these days? It's getting to the point when I don't even want to admit I'm one.
Honestly, I find your post almost as head scratching as his. He doesn't represent you, or me for that matter, just because he happened to be born the same sex and orientation as you. Being a straight guy isn't an ideological movement that you choose to be a part of, like feminism or an animal rights group. Him posting his ridiculous views shouldn't make you embarrassed to be a straight male.
If you don't wan't to admit you're a straight guy because you think people will lump you in with posters like that (which does regularly happen on the BSN,) I still don't get it. That's on them if they want to generalize a huge group of people, it shouldn't affect those of us who don't hold those views.
Reading comprehension is certainly lacking on this site.
Yeah, our reading comprehension is fine. You can't start with this:
I wasn't making a comparison.
And then end with this:
I just personally think TW3 will be a superior game than Inquisition. Partly due to what I have seen in the marketing (gameplay videos mostly) and partly because of the quality of CDPR's former titles.
Because that is a comparison. (Hint: it was the word "superior.")
It's not ludicrous at all to say " I think this game looks better than this game." It's actually ludicrous to suggest that it is.
Yeah, I'm not rehashing any of that again. If you want to pretend you're making a point of any substance, be my guest.
Honestly, I find your post almost as head scratching as his. He doesn't represent you, or me for that matter, just because he happened to be born the same sex and orientation as you. Being a straight guy isn't an ideological movement that you choose to be a part of, like feminism or an animal rights group. Him posting his ridiculous views shouldn't make you embarrassed to be a straight male.
If you don't wan't to admit you're a straight guy because you think people will lump you in with posters like that (which does regularly happen on the BSN,) I still don't get it. That's on them if they want to generalize a huge group of people, it shouldn't affect those of us who don't hold those views.
Reading comprehension is certainly lacking on this site. I wasn't making a comparison. Someone said that once CDPR start working on new titles after they are finished with TW3, they will be competition for Bioware. I said they already are. I used TW3 as an example but any Witcher game would have done, it's certainly the most similar game series to DA out there atm. They are aiming for the same market. I just personally think TW3 will be a superior game than Inquisition. Partly due to what I have seen in the marketing (gameplay videos mostly) and partly because of the quality of CDPR's former titles. It's not ludicrous at all to say " I think this game looks better than this game." It's actually ludicrous to suggest that it is.
Most people outside of here would probably agree with you.
I also agree that they're already competing. Mathias must not have been around in 2011 to think otherwise.
Setting aside CDPR, it's not like there weren't already other people making competing products similar to BioWare's offerings. Eidos Montreal released DE: HR and Obsidian...well they tried with Alpha Protocol.
The opinion I slipped in clearly wasn't the point of the post though. As you well know, I was responding to the claim that Bioware has no competition because there isn't anyone who makes similar games to DA. The post even mentioned CDPR, but implied that they would only start to become competition once they'd moved on from TW3 and concentrated on new projects. I gave the Witcher 3 (though it's the series as a whole) as an example of a game that is remarkably similar, meaning that CDPR already are direct competition. You know all that however, and are just trying to use the fact that I gave my opinion that the Witcher looks better to invalidate the point I was making.
I have no idea why you're fixated on me thinking it's going to be a better game than Inquisition despite not being out yet, I never stated it as fact, so i'm not seeing where the problem is. I also dont see why people think it's ridiculous to think that one game looks better than another purely from marketing. If someone says "That film looks awesome, way better than ..." after seeing a trailor. Nobody says "that's ludicrous to suggest that, you just don't know because you haven't seen it yet." Nobody is that pedantic.
Most people outside of here would probably agree with you.
citation needed.
Honestly game forums are exactly the same as pop music forums.
They dish at each other's favorites and claim that their own is the Queen of Pop.
Meanwhile most of the listeners, you know...casuals, don't give a damn about all that and just play what they enjoy listening to.
Pop forum members are mostly tweens though. What's our excuse?
The problem is with almost all the games this year it was the developers trying new things with the consoles and expanding what they have been developing to work with the new hardware. Its why normally near the end of the generation you will see a lot of really good games for developers know the limitations of the hardware and have experience with issues they might encounter and that gets reset with a new generation of consoles.
In 2013 a lot of the complaints about the released games was that "they don't feel or look that much different from the older generation of games" and that is because they were probably first designed and built prototypes using the older hardware for they didn't have anything from the new consoles to work with.
Now next year gaming should be better because developers are going to have more experience with the hardware and work within those lines and each year after that it will be refined more and more until the next generation of hardware is released and this discussion happens again.
The cycle cannot be stopped, it has repeated itself countless times before. Early PS2 games looked like late era PS1 games, and early PS3 games looked like late era PS2 games.
I honestly want TW3 and such to be successful.
Why must success be mutually exclusive? :/
Because that does not fit in with the capitalist mindset of the 21st century.
I'm not saying don't market the game.
I'm saying we shouldn't completely trust everything the marketing says, because it's marketing and the entire point of it is trying to make your game look as awesome as possible.
In theory the entire point of marketing is to promote a product/idea to the masses. However, in reality: its whole pourpose is to lure/con consumers; into buying a product they don't need/want. Or to push an idea onto the public so much, that people start believing it as true. Entire electoral campaigns have been won or lost, just by who had the better marketing team.
I got lucky last night.
citation needed.
Honestly game forums are exactly the same as pop music forums.
They dish at each other's favorites and claim that their own is the Queen of Pop.
Meanwhile most of the listeners, you know...casuals, don't give a damn about all that and just play what they enjoy listening to.
Pop forum members are mostly tweens though. What's our excuse?
We don´t have a life? 
We don´t have a life?
Whoa, hey, hey tone it down a bit! That's really uncalled for! I mean, of course we do! Like. Uhm. ... Yeah. I tend to die a lot when playing games, so I have A LOT of lives! That counts, right? 
The opinion I slipped in clearly wasn't the point of the post though. As you well know, I was responding to the claim that Bioware has no competition because there isn't anyone who makes similar games to DA. The post even mentioned CDPR, but implied that they would only start to become competition once they'd moved on from TW3 and concentrated on new projects. I gave the Witcher 3 (though it's the series as a whole) as an example of a game that is remarkably similar, meaning that CDPR already are direct competition. You know all that however, and are just trying to use the fact that I gave my opinion that the Witcher looks better to invalidate the point I was making.
I would say that fixed protagonist completely contradicts this. No one does custom protagonist games like Bioware.
"You liked Dragon Age? Try Legend of Zelda - it's just like DA, only you're forced to play as Link."
Except in the case of The Witcher, the protagonist we're stuck with is supremely trite and unappealing.
I would say that fixed protagonist completely contradicts this. No one does custom protagonist games like Bioware.
"You liked Dragon Age? Try Legend of Zelda - it's just like DA, only you're forced to play as Link."
Except in the case of The Witcher, the protagonist we're stuck with is supremely trite and unappealing.
He is hot as f***, but that´s my opinion.
He is hot as f***, but that´s my opinion.
We don´t have a life?
I.... er... well... um...
I got lucky last night.
citation needed
Sorry, but attractiveness does not a deep and interesting character make.
No, it doesn´t. I´m not so shallow, hehe. But I happen to think that he is a very interesting character even without his looks. A bit like Hawke. He is no hero. He tries to do what he thinks is right but everything is f***ed up. He reacts to the world and is shaped by it. Geralt is certainly not a protagonist I would enjoy if I was looking for someone to canalize my power fantasies.
But I read the books, perhaps I have a different view.
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