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[United Servo Academy Choir]

As far as 2015 goes, we have no idea if those games that apparently people are already claiming Inquisition couldn't have gone up against will do a faceplant right into the wall like many 2014 titles did.

 

I mean I want The Witcher 3 to do well as much as the next person and expect that I will greatly enjoy the game, but it's stupid to proclaim it vastly superior to Inquisition before it has even come out yet.

 

I'm 100% certain that the Witcher 3 will be an open world game, with all the baggage inherent in that, good and bad, just like Skyrim/DAI/insert other games here. Probably plenty of people will be blind to these "flaws" while plenty of other people harp on them forever. It's not going to fundamentally change the industry or elevate the medium, though. I'm equally certain of that.

 

I hope it's every bit as good as DAI, though considering the fixed protagonist, that's already an uphill battle. I think I'd like to play it eventually though.

[Qoojo]

This list does not support your hypothesis: http://en.wikipedia....in_video_gaming.

 

Divinity: Original Sin

Age of Wonders III

Watch Dogs

Assassins Creed Unity

Wasteland 2

Borderlands: The Presequel

Ryse: Son of Rome

Middle Earth: Shadows of Mordor

Walking Dead: Season 2

Civ: Beyond Earth

 

I think you are warping reality to fit your view of how you think things should look.

[Cyonan]

This list does not support your hypothesis: http://en.wikipedia....in_video_gaming.

 

Divinity: Original Sin

Age of Wonders III

Watch Dogs

Assassins Creed Unity

Wasteland 2

Borderlands: The Presequel

Ryse: Son of Rome

Middle Earth: Shadows of Mordor

Walking Dead: Season 2

Civ: Beyond Earth

 

I think you are warping reality to fit your view of how you think things should look.

 

I don't think AC: Unity was going to be a contender for anything except biggest disaster of the year =P

 

Also, Ryse originally came out in 2013 on the Xbox One. Even though the PC release didn't happen until 2014, that doesn't usually make it count for the year.

[Cyonan]

This.

 

I don't understand the purpose of this thread, or the mindset of people like the original poster.

 

If I don't like a game or I am disappointed with it, I move on. I purchased Dear Esther when it came out, played ten minutes, and then deleted it from my hard drive. I didn't proceed to create an account on the developer's forum and then lambast the game.

 

What's even more bizarre is if you look at the number of posts that some of these people have wracked up. The haters are some of the most active people on Bioware's forum. Why not spend their time actually talking about things that they like?

 

And yes, I understand that the OP doesn't classify himself as a "hater" and that he would give the game a 7/10.

 

In my case I wouldn't make an account specifically to post about a game I don't like, but for BioWare games I'm already here and I have no issues with throwing out criticisms of a game.

 

Of course if I actually hated the game I wouldn't hang around for months after the release.

 

I'll also personally get a bit more nitpicky about game franchises that I really like.

[Lebanese Dude]

Why is someone automatically a hater if he criticizes parts of the game? We all bought the game you know so why shouldn't people post their opinions here if they were disappointed ?
Frankly I'm more concerned of "fanboys" that have been popping up lately who don't want to take any criticism at all and try to justify every flaw that the game has now thats silly

 

Flaws are relatively subjective and people justify them as not being flaws if they don't believe they are. 

 

"Fanboys" are merely attempting to express their viewpoints in the same way you are, except they like the feature while you don't.

 

You don't need to agree and neither do they, so stop putting yourself as a victim here and understand you're in a forum and people are going to criticize your criticisms in order to spark a conversation.

 

Otherwise this would just be a blog.

[Serenade]

Sometimes you need luck to succeed regardless.

[leaguer of one]

Nope. They came in the same year a bungi game came in and the came in on top. If your saying bw won because all these award because of name alone then your missing the point here that bungi is a way bigger name and it lost out to bw for once. Op , you may not like the game but it clearly is a great game.

[Qoojo]

I don't think AC: Unity was going to be a contender for anything except biggest disaster of the year =P

 

Also, Ryse originally came out in 2013 on the Xbox One. Even though the PC release didn't happen until 2014, that doesn't usually make it count for the year.

 

You basically said that it had no competition. I don't own or play most of the games listed, and I don't care about consoles. I just listed what appeared to be good or at least AAA game budgets, which is what you hinged your original argument on. You said basically, "It was a bad year" and "many AAA titles were delayed". The given list is not meant to be conprehensive either. I wasn't going to spend all day going through that list.

 

I just listed out several AAA titles, and a few very good games. I don't think I have heard one bad thing about "Divinity: Original Sin". Then there are a few at least very good titles on the list like Shadow of Mordor, Age of Wonders III, and Wasteland 2.

 

So the list given was basically to show you don't know what you are talking about while using the constraints given in your first post. AAA titles (good or not) and good games.

[papercut_ninja]

I'm not justifying DA:I flaws. I'm perfectly willing to admit that Bioware needs to work on how they implement quests in the future and populate their open-world zones. It's all a matter of opinion, though. I found DA:I to be enjoyable.

 

Also, I agree with Qoojo. It's not like Bioware was only competing against only Angry Birds clones and broken free-to-play games. Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 2, and Middle Earth were all solid titles.

 

I think the Bioware forums have a large number of "fanboys" (although I am reticent to even use that term) because this place seems to attract and equal number of people who do nothing but criticize ... they're just being defensive of the games which they love.

 

If I went onto the CD Projekt forums and started criticizing Witcher right and left, I would expect a decent level of hostility as well.

 

The fanboys generally do not throw anywhere near the same level of degrading, condescending hostility as those who criticise them and jump on every opportunity to call them casual, paid by EA, console-drones etc...that's why I generally take the fanboy side in discussions because they also need a patronizing b**** that will call out people on their bs...

[Lebanese Dude]

I don't mind a discussion but being labelled a "hater" just because I criticize the game is whats annoying

believe it or not overall I like the game but there are definitely many flaws

 

Well you'll find that people will stop calling you a "hater" when you stop using the word "fanboy" to denote anyone who disagrees with you

[leaguer of one]

wow the butthurt level is very high with this one ("I hope they bankrupt")

 

And I always thought that the TW forums had a lot of Bioware hate (visit them rather often)

but this is of course a new level lol jesus

 

I actually like Bioware games in general more (especially ME2 and DA:O are two of my favourite games ever) but lately they have been struggling (DA2 had a good story and characters but had reused enviroments, weak gameplay, ME3 had a shitty ending and some other flaws, DA:I has a weak story and too much focus on open world and fetch quests) at least for me

 

TW2 is one of the best RPG's I have played (after ME2 and DA:O obviously) and I hope TW3 can beat it

and if they really keep their promises (unlike Bioware) and deliver I hope they own Bioware and Bethesda

I don't see what so great about the witcher 2. They just make the level with more the one way to get to a goal but with the goal and result basically the same for the pc. The game story is basically who do I side with, who do I help, and do I kill this guy or not.

[leaguer of one]

everyone has different preferences for an example I know many people here don't like TW in general because you are "stuck" with playing as a pre defined character

 

Since I don't mind that TW1+2 were pretty awesome especially in TW2 you could make many choices

at the end of Act 1 depending on the choice you got a completly different Act 2 and parts of Act 3

 

also the characters were likable and the politics interesting

its basically GOT for the games (in terms of tone and atmosphere)

Act 2 was not that different. All the choices did was change who you were with and some of the quest you did there. You still went to the same place and had the same goal. And act 3 is the same thing no matter what you do. Your just picking who you help then.

[leaguer of one]

Same here.

Yes they did..

http://en.wikipedia....28Metacritic.29

 

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U

Dark Souls 2

Bayonetta 2

Mario Kart 8

Child of Light

FARCRY 4

Mordor

ISOLATION

BORDERLANDS PRE-SEQUEL

[The Antagonist]

Yeah they did. The original one year delay was genius because they wouldn't even be considered for goty in 2013.

[leaguer of one]

compared to certain other games thats a lot
 but like I said different preferences

I like DA:O and ME2 more but I think TW2 is better than the last three Bioware games by far

And yet you comparing apples to oranges. tw games and the bw games have  different goals. BW games for a good potion of the game let you pick what places and quest you do in any order you like. The witcher game just stick you in one place focus more on the environment on hand for the player. The witcher game let the player work with less to have more details while bw game work with more to give players a feel of more freedom. Ironically, bw does character better then the witcher teams. It's like compering grand theft auto to uncharted.