What one individual sees as an issue might be totally fine with another, unless that issue is a technical one.
if its repeated by a large mob of people, then perhaps it really is an issue, hardly "individual". Also, many people think exploitation, slavery and abuse is "fine", does that mean they have a right to it? Metacritic has a lot of decent reviews underneath the rubble, if you dont pay attention to the scores.
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You cannot use metacritic and gaming websites as an accurate litmus of how games have been received by the entire community. Inquisition probably sold somewhere around 2-4 million copies based on the previous two installments. Out of those 2-4 million people, probably 5-10% of them take the time to go online and write about their experiences with the product. Forums vel sim. tend to attract individuals from polar ends of the spectrum.
Claiming that the game is a failure and widely detested basd on the opinions of friends and family isn't any more reliable. Does your extended family comprise the 4 million people who purchased Inquisition?
As for the "glaring flaws," as I've said before, I'm perfectly willing to admit that Inquisition has it's share of problems, as all games do. For me, that is not a deal breaker, for others it might be. It all depends on what you place importance upon.
I think Gothfather's post was quite reasonable. He/she was merely saying that, just because you personally do not like a product does not mean that you have to embark upon a holy quest to prove that everyone else who does like said product is wrong.
And yes, claiming that GameInformer, IGN, Electronic Gaming Monthly, Hardcore Gamer, Gamereactor, Ars Technica, The Escapist, Polygon, and the dozens of other gaming websites that voted Inquisition game of the year were all bribed is ridiculous.
do we even need to claim IGN is bought off these days?
I thought that was just a general consensus
if its repeated by a large mob of people, then perhaps it really is an issue, hardly "individual". Also, many people think exploitation, slavery and abuse is "fine", does that mean they have a right to it? Metacritic has a lot of decent reviews underneath the rubble, if you dont pay attention to the scores.
You cannot use metacritic and gaming websites as an accurate litmus of how games have been received by the entire community. Inquisition probably sold somewhere around 2-4 million copies based on the previous two installments. Out of those 2-4 million people, probably 5-10% of them take the time to go online and write about their experiences with the product. Forums vel sim. tend to attract individuals from polar ends of the spectrum.
Claiming that the game is a failure and widely detested basd on the opinions of friends and family isn't any more reliable. Does your extended family comprise the 4 million people who purchased Inquisition?
As for the "glariing flaws," as I've said before, I'm perfectly willing to admit that Inquisition has it's share of problems, as all games do. For me, that is not a deal breaker, for others it might be. It all depends on what you place importance upon.
I think Gothfather's post was quite reasonable. He/she was merely saying that, just because you personally do not like a product does not mean that you have to embark upon a holy quest to prove that everyone else who does like said product is wrong.
And yes, claiming that GameInformer, IGN, Electronic Gaming Monthly, Hardcore Gamer, Gamereactor, Ars Technica, The Escapist, Polygon, and the dozens of other gaming websites that voted Inquisition game of the year were all bribed is ridiculous.
lay of the hyperbole please, nowhere did i claim the it is widely detested or a failure, i said its very polarising, and i also said it is a decent, but very flawed game. I wasnt trying to convince you of anything, nor do i care to. It probably sold reasonably well, though i doubt it did as much as they hoped it would. When none of these people acknowledge the myriad of commonly perceived flaws and technical issues, that doesnt seem a little odd to you? that none of them mentioned the abysmal controls for the pc? or the terrible performance? This is easily the absolute worst pc port ive ever played, just look at the pc issues thread, and for none of these prof reviewers to mention any of the issues? The fact that playing with keyboard and mouse as a melee is almost impossible? ya sry not buying it.
What you see as a large mob may very well be a vocal minority howling away. Many people will never comment on a gaming forum or website.
Also, I like how you're attempting to build some strawmen here. The subjectivity of media is in no way comparable to "exploitation, slavery, and abuse".
the way you phrased it is as though if something runs "technically" fine according to your standards then there are no issues. Lots of shitty things run in good technical order, that doesnt mean we should be quiet about it, that was my point. Though who are you to decide what a relevant issue is or isnt, you are in no more of a position to do so than i. Perhaps the issues are all interwoven, everything involving the game is a "technical" issue, as the particular bugs are spawned from the inherently flawed gameplay-mechanics and coding. The same could be said about the vocal minority who defend the game btw- Who are you to say your group is larger than the other group?
the way you phrased it is as though if something runs "technically" fine according to your standards then there are no issues. Lots of shitty things run in good technical order, that doesnt mean we should be quiet about it, that was my point. Though who are you to decide what a relevant issue is or isnt, you are in no more of a position to do so than i. Perhaps the issues are all interwoven, everything involving the game is a "technical" issue, as the particular bugs are spawned from the games mechanics and coding. The same could be said about the vocal minority who defend the game btw- Who are you to say your group is larger than the other group?
do we even need to claim IGN is bought off these days?
I thought that was just a general consensus
Over 200 game of the year award.....That includes player choice award and a dice award.....EA paid of the entire industry?
Many reviewers didn't play the game on PC, and noted which platform they played on in their reviews. That is why they didn't see any issues. It is also worth noting that I know a fair number of PC players who never had a problem, so even if they did play on PC, they might never have come across a proble,.
As for which group is larger, I think the numerous Reader's Choice awards for GOTY speak for themselves. Enough people enjoyed DAI to take the time and cast votes.
um sweetie, go to metacritic, there are 45 reviews on the pc. you dont have a specific number to compare, is there a readers disappointment award, that would actually be valid and not rigged?? tbh i dont trust any of those awards, my feelings about them are the same are yours are about users on metacritic so that says nothing to me
um sweetie, go to metacritic, there are 45 reviews on the pc. you dont have a specific number to compare, is there a readers disappointment award, that would actually be valid and not rigged?? tbh i dont trust any of those awards, my feelings about them are the same are yours are about users on metacritic so that says nothing to me
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um sweetie, go to metacritic, there are 45 reviews on the pc. you dont have a specific number to compare, is there a readers disappointment award, that would actually be valid and not rigged?? tbh i dont trust any of those awards, my feelings about them are the same are yours are about users on metacritic so that says nothing to me
Get a life. If you don't like Inquisition, go on Origin, click return, and get your money back. Move on, Bioware has.
Christ, the amount of time that people spend complaining about games that haven't lived up to their expectations.
Over 200 game of the year award.....That includes player choice award and a dice award.....EA paid of the entire industry?
haha perhaps you underestimate how desperate they are for this game to succeed, they made a huge investment into it afterall. Who is to say, i cant know for sure, maybe it was an amazing success.
Over 200 game of the year award.....That includes player choice award and a dice award.....EA paid of the entire industry?
Get a life. If you don't like Inquisition, go on Origin, click return, and get your money back. Move on, Bioware has.
Christ, the amount of time that people spend complaining about games that haven't lived up to their expectations.
youre telling me to get a life, while getting worked up and dramatic over something innocuous i said on this forum? You seem completely incapable of rational thought or reading comprehension, because ive already repeated several times that i think its a decent game.
EA has a vault filled with sacks with dollar signs on them to mail to key reviewers.
i never suggested everybody has been payed off, but to think that nobody has is ridiculously naive 
You're battling a lost cause, Scerene. They've already decided you're a crazy person, no matter how valid your points may be. The pendulum has swung the other way.
When I was disappointed with DA:I, I thought to myself "what game this year was better?" but the only other games I'd bought or even had any interest in were Telltale's TWD season 2 and the first episode of their GoT game. Pretty crazy thinking about it, I never buy that few games in a year O_O (I played a lot of SWtOR, Fallout: New Vegas, Skyrim, SR4, and DA:O though).
haha perhaps you underestimate how desperate they are for this game to succeed, they made a huge investment into it afterall. Who is to say, i cant know for sure, maybe it was an amazing success.
Please, this is ea. If they are going to pay of review they would do it with a game that would of sold more ....Like Battlefeild. You don't have any understanding of the industry. RPGS are niche titles, they don't sell at the same size of any other tip of genre. Try again. If this were swtor you would have an argument. Try again.
You're battling a lost cause, Scerene. They've already decided you're a crazy person, no matter how valid your points may be. The pendulum has swung the other way.
That because they are a crazy person and their points aren't valid.
I fail to understand what is wrong with being lucky? That is how the chips fall sometimes. If posters want to say that DAI won all those awards because the rest of the games were crap or that the real competition delayed their games that is fine. If it is someone's opinion that EA paid for all of those GOTY awards so be it.
What about all the Reader's Choice awards which are voted on by gamers? If EA is paying them off I am sure quite a few posters on this forum are wondering where are their checks.
Even if one assumes EA paid for all the GOTY awards (which IMHO is highly unlikely could be some) how do you explain the multiple Reader's Choice awards? Which at last count is approaching (if not over) 30.
I can only assume that somebody must be enjoying the game to vote it as a Readers Choice.
I fail to understand what is wrong with being lucky? That is how the chips fall sometimes. If posters want to say that DAI won all those awards because the rest of the games were crap or that the real competition delayed their games that is fine. If it is someone's opinion that EA paid for all of those GOTY awards so be it.
What about all the Reader's Choice awards which are voted on by gamers? If EA is paying them off I am sure quite a few posters on this forum are wondering where are their checks.
Even if one assumes EA paid for all the GOTY awards (which IMHO is highly unlikely could be some) how do you explain the multiple Reader's Choice awards? Which at last count is approaching (if not over) 30.
I can only assume that somebody must be enjoying the game to vote it as a Readers Choice.
I always laugh when people say that "the votes were bought" those websites would make a lot more money by exposing EA in buying those votes then what EA would ever pay them and given the PR department EA seems to have with some of their comments they made they would tell us themselves if they paid for votes. Then again, this is EA we are talking about when the YouTube scandal around Shadows of Mordor happened nobody seemed to care which was blackmailing YouTube reviewers into generating positive reviews.
haha perhaps you underestimate how desperate they are for this game to succeed, they made a huge investment into it afterall. Who is to say, i cant know for sure, maybe it was an amazing success.
haha perhaps you underestimate how desperate they are for this game to succeed, they made a huge investment into it afterall. Who is to say, i cant know for sure, maybe it was an amazing success.
If the game had failed to hit their expectations the franchise would probably be cut, yes.
Everything must come to an end someday.
haha perhaps you underestimate how desperate they are for this game to succeed, they made a huge investment into it afterall. Who is to say, i cant know for sure, maybe it was an amazing success.
I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
But here's the thing:
-Why would EA only payoff the industry for Dragon Age: Inquisition. Why not its other games?
-Why would well funded companies like Bungie allow themselves to be outbid for that sweet "Game of the Year" swag?
I eagerly await your cogent answers.
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