Aller au contenu

Photo

Why we skip doors....the definitive truth


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
228 réponses à ce sujet

#101
J. Peterman

J. Peterman
  • Members
  • 2 754 messages

of you play with me or watch my twitch feed I'm always having fun and so are those playing with me I am always laughing..it's part of why I play because I meet some awesome people and have such a good time ^^

 

So where do you stand on blaming other players for failure when you were the first scrub to go down?


  • ALTBOULI et TBJack aiment ceci

#102
ShfTyGrimReaper

ShfTyGrimReaper
  • Members
  • 3 messages

You read through the forum in the 9 minutes your account existed before posting? Nothing suspicious about that.



#103
ShfTyGrimReaper

ShfTyGrimReaper
  • Members
  • 3 messages
No idea where you get the 9 mins from I've just never logged in here before.

#104
Angry_Elcor

Angry_Elcor
  • Members
  • 1 641 messages

No idea where you get the 9 mins from I've just never logged in here before.

 

From subtraction. 2:48 p.m. minus 2:39 p.m. = 9 minutes. (I'll give you a hint. Hover your cursor over your forum ID next to your post.)



#105
ALTBOULI

ALTBOULI
  • Members
  • 2 703 messages

So where so you stand on blaming other players for failure when you were the first scrub to go down?


  • Beerfish, Jeremiah12LGeek et Kenny Bania aiment ceci

#106
dbrada7402

dbrada7402
  • Members
  • 39 messages

I can live with skipping some of the treasure rooms, because some of the guardians are way overpowered, but what is the point in just blowing past all the free loot available just by breaking a container and scooping of the gold?  I've seen players do that way too often.



#107
Ryumanjisen

Ryumanjisen
  • Members
  • 286 messages

You read through the forum in the 9 minutes your account existed before posting? Nothing suspicious about that.

In all fairness, you don't need an account to read the forums. But still, I think we have a Medallian alt here.



#108
Puffy9999

Puffy9999
  • Members
  • 104 messages

need more popcorn...



#109
Reptillius

Reptillius
  • Members
  • 1 242 messages

If you have a solid group that works together You actually get more gold clearing all of the treasure rooms except for just a couple that are way out of the way.  The rooms don't add more than 2 or 3 minutes at most and grabbing the pots along your way without going nuts about it actually can double your gold from a run for a fraction of the time.   If you get absolutely all the gold in a run it tends to be about 2 1/3 times the gold and I've seen fast groups pick that up pretty fast as well.

 

So your speed run equation doesn't exactly work when it comes to money.  Just on Routine your gold gathering goes from somewhere close to 300(if not lower) to between 650 and 700 when you get most to all of it.

 

Now on the other hand I will say that it is certainly faster experience wise. Specially since the largest bulk of your experience by far is right in your path on a speed run. Kill what you need to that will open each door and it's not going to be in your interest to open the treasure doors for the small amounts of experience they give.



#110
Drasca

Drasca
  • Members
  • 2 574 messages
If you have a solid group that works together You actually get more gold clearing all of the treasure rooms

 

No.

 

1-2 people clear pots and open rooms while everyone else runs and clears zones asap. You don't need everyone to be in treasure rooms when there's only one chest and 2-4 pots, and a relatively weak enemy.



#111
Medallian

Medallian
  • Members
  • 770 messages

So where do you stand on blaming other players for failure when you were the first scrub to go down?

even with my stats I can't solo perilous with any class nor am I a master of all classes or the best player in the game but I am an excellent strategist..... and yes I wipe but I can't carry every one ...it's still a team game

#112
Guest_Stormheart83_*

Guest_Stormheart83_*
  • Guests
*Yawn* 0/10 just another epeen thread. Not impressed, not even a little. Perhaps you should come back after you have solved world hunger while accumulating 1200 plus hours in DAMP because, that would be impressive!
  • KennyKoerperich et JRandall0308 aiment ceci

#113
KennyKoerperich

KennyKoerperich
  • Members
  • 90 messages

Double *YAWN*....

 

You stole my thoughts Storm...

 

Epeen thread, and seriously HTF has the Admin not locked it already???

 

DILLIGAF what your rank is?

 

Go preach somewhere else....

 

Someone has had to drag your ass thru your low levels each time you prestige, so you cannot say your speed leveling...

 

As stated by others/before, your just a no lifer needing your epeen stroked again.....

 

Quit telling us 5 hours a week or less players what's best...

 

Your way isn't any better than mine.....

 

Admin? Please lock this sh_t already......Tired of seeing it every other day!



#114
teltow

teltow
  • Members
  • 607 messages

 

:wizard:  tnx



#115
The Allslayer

The Allslayer
  • Members
  • 131 messages

you really won't see anything over item lvl 16 from the boxes your going g to get all your stuff from the store it's completly pointless to get chests... I mean there's a chance for a ring or belts they max out at 15 but then chance is considerably low when compared to store chest that and the fact that you can avrage the same or more gold doing speed runs and triple the exp...well its not hard...and if your new to the game need gear..hit me up and I'll play with you and we can grind and we can get you gold and I'm happy to explain in and outs of theories...but any one who's speed runs with me can see a dramatic differences ... and I invite you to come along...I'm not here to bash or anything but to answer the question pissed on many threads why do you speed run.... and I'll be happy to give you first hand experience ^^

 

While I agree that you get almost nothing but trash items from treasure rooms (I'm sure everyone else agrees) the key word there is almost, because the fact is you can get anything from them. I got a superb HoK ring way back when I first started playing, a couple weeks ago I got Trepanners Requital and a couple days ago I got Punched by the Maker. The Archer is my favourite class so the 3 best items I have all came from treasure rooms.



#116
Medallian

Medallian
  • Members
  • 770 messages

Double *YAWN*....

You stole my thoughts Storm...

Epeen thread, and seriously HTF has the Admin not locked it already???

DILLIGAF what your rank is?

Go preach somewhere else....

Someone has had to drag your ass thru your low levels each time you prestige, so you cannot say your speed leveling...

As stated by others/before, your just a no lifer needing your epeen stroked again.....

Quit telling us 5 hours a week or less players what's best...

Your way isn't any better than mine.....

Admin? Please lock this sh_t already......Tired of seeing it every other day!

so much hate man... and for what I am not telling and even if it's pointless because at end of the day your going to do what you do..

#117
Guest_Mortiel_*

Guest_Mortiel_*
  • Guests

you really won't see anything over item lvl 16 from the boxes your going g to get all your stuff from the store it's completly pointless to get chests...

 
I disagree. I got my Sulevin Blade from a free chest room. It's all chance.
 

I see your point..but dropping my stats or rank was just to be like hey look I got some time in the game...maybe I might have a little more insight on things with such high stats...

 
The problem is that you are barking up the wrong tree. Your stats appear more to be you bragging than having insight, because you throw your stats in everyone's face in every topic I've read that you started.

Furthermore, many people here are veterans in the game and have done methodical testing of game functions and meta-data, so making statements of conjecture like you frequently do tends to meet resistance. You have not gained much credibility in your past posting, and thus people are more inclined to argue with what you say. It does not help that you are talking about playing the meta-game (xp/hr, gold/hr, etc), which is largely not popular. 

My advice is to be more cognizant of what you are saying, meaning both the topic on which you speak and the manner in which you relay said topic.
 

I am an excellent strategist.....


I might disagree, having formal training in strategy and tactics. Your "strategy" in playing the meta-game is to grind to something. Grind to get that new weapon, grind to get that next promotion. That's not really a strategy. That's a tactic. The method by which you "speed run" matches is also a tactic.

See, a strategist's first task in creating a strategy for others is to know how those other people operate. The manner in which you play the game would have burned the vast majority of players out after a month of less, and so suggesting others play this way would be an ill-advised tactic.

If you want to call yourself a good strategist, then I challenge you come up with a strategy, not a tactic, to create sustainable enjoyment for the largest amount of people possible. A good strategist is, after all, flexible.
 

"Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation to the foe whom he is facing. Therefore, just as water retains no constant shape, so in warfare there are no constant conditions. He who can modify his tactics in relation to his opponent and thereby succeed in winning, may be called a heaven-born captain."
-Sun Tzu


  • xROLLxTIDEx, Ryumanjisen, TBJack et 1 autre aiment ceci

#118
ajscott819

ajscott819
  • Members
  • 559 messages
Forget this. I'm out. Gonna go get some pancakes for dinner.
  • J. Peterman aime ceci

#119
Drasca

Drasca
  • Members
  • 2 574 messages

 If you want to call yourself a good strategist, then I challenge you come up with a strategy, not a tactic, to create sustainable enjoyment for the largest amount of people possible. A good strategist is, after all, flexible.

 

I would argue you would not have to specifically target toward 'the largest amount of people possible', rather whoever your target audience is. Good practice and flexibility also dictates the ability to target other audiences, 'not the largest number possible'.

 

Be clear who your target audience is, and tailor your communication with them. My Combo AW build for example is definitely not for new players that are easily frustrated by mechanics they don't understand. My Starter Keeper build is in fact meant to be newbie friendly and really hard to lose with even without prior knowledge.



#120
russ4ua16

russ4ua16
  • Members
  • 379 messages
I love theory crafting! Don't let the care bears shame you into silence. Preach on.

Btw I'm really nice in game. Mostly silent in fact. I just enjoy game forums.

#121
Satinpuppies

Satinpuppies
  • Members
  • 51 messages

They hate you cos they ain't you medallion. lol.



#122
Guest_Mortiel_*

Guest_Mortiel_*
  • Guests

I would argue you would not have to specifically target toward 'the largest amount of people possible', rather whoever your target audience is. Good practice and flexibility also dictates the ability to target other audiences, 'not the largest number possible'.

 

You are absolutely correct, but look deeper:

I recognized that the so-called "strategy" that Medallion provides is catering toward a small crowd of meta-data warriors while he was claiming to be an excellent strategist. He is currently targeting a rather small exclusive group. Targeting a large inclusive group would be an ideal challenge, would it not?

I am not making such a challenge as a final word in strategem by any means, but rather as giving a way to both help Medallion gain some credibility so his expertise is not swallowed by negativity while also giving a large group of people something to try for fun.



#123
Jkregers

Jkregers
  • Members
  • 279 messages

Telling someone that they have too much time on their hands is idiotic. Also, playing for 1200 hours with high stats doesn't show that you are an excellent strategist, it shows that you are simply not a complete idiot. If someone played 1000 hours past a normal grind and still didn't know how to maximize their efforts, they might be a moron. 


  • Drasca aime ceci

#124
J. Peterman

J. Peterman
  • Members
  • 2 754 messages

even with my stats I can't solo perilous with any class nor am I a master of all classes or the best player in the game but I am an excellent strategist..... and yes I wipe but I can't carry every one ...it's still a team game

 

That has nothing to do with my question. Why bring a lvl 1 character to perilous, all the while bragging to the other players in the game about how much more damage you can put out than everyone else because of your awesome stats, be the first player to get downed and then try to blame someone else for the wipe?



#125
Medallian

Medallian
  • Members
  • 770 messages

In all fairness, you don't need an account to read the forums. But still, I think we have a Medallian alt here.

lol not even you can.loom the name up on xb1 he is a recent friend some one who plays with me...so it's ok for you guys to group bash me but not ok for some one to defend me further more the thought of some one defending me is so outrageous to you...you preclaim it a medallian alt.... rofl...wow..just wow